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garikfox
11-03-04, 10:31 AM
Anyone try this yet ?


http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?option=com_remository&func=fileinfo&filecatid=504

Chippy
11-03-04, 10:35 AM
Anyone try this yet ?


http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?option=com_remository&func=fileinfo&filecatid=504

I am intrigued at what the "Rev 2" changes are. Hmmmmm. Couldn't possibly be anything to do with the video processing, could it? Dunno.

Chip

Mojoe
11-03-04, 10:43 AM
Just looked at it with Hexview and compared it to my stock Pov GT bios and there are several differense`s, one of them are that this is for Ntsc and it says NV 40 while mine says GT.

xrotanimret
11-03-04, 11:24 AM
If someone tries this on one of the newer BFG 6800 GTs, I'd like to hear about it. :)

Edit: tried it, works. Annoying that the device IDs are different, have to reinstall drivers.

garikfox
11-03-04, 11:34 AM
If someone tries this on one of the newer BFG 6800 GTs, I'd like to hear about it. :)

Edit: tried it, works. Annoying that the device IDs are different, have to reinstall drivers.

Prolly will work on my eVGA then woot.

Anything new about it ?

xrotanimret
11-03-04, 11:58 AM
Prolly will work on my eVGA then woot.

Anything new about it ?
Nothing that I can see.

Chippy
11-03-04, 12:00 PM
Nothing that I can see.

Based upon what analysis?

xrotanimret
11-03-04, 12:45 PM
Based upon what analysis?
Based upon what I see, hence "nothing that I see."

End users shouldn't really be noticing huge differences between video card BIOS revisions anyhow. ;)

Chippy
11-03-04, 12:47 PM
Based upon what I see, hence "nothing that I see."

What I am getting at is, Is your comment based upon any meaningful analysis or were you looking out of the window at the time?

Would you like to share your analysis with us? Or shall we just write it off as meaningless drivel?

Your comment that end-users shouldn't notice any differences completely ignores the fact that new bios versions are released for a reason: to fix problems. If you are experiencing a problem, you might very well notice a difference!

Chip

sniggle
11-03-04, 12:56 PM
i think what he means is "benchmark your games before and after"

if you see no difference, there is no difference. look for image quality differences as well as stability. you're never gonna find a definite difference by sifting through hex code unless you know what it all does.

xrotanimret
11-03-04, 01:00 PM
What I am getting at is, Is your comment based upon any meaningful analysis or were you looking out of the window at the time?

Would you like to share your analysis with us? Or shall we just write it off as meaningless drivel?

Your comment that end-users shouldn't notice any differences completely ignores the fact that new bios versions are released for a reason: to fix problems. If you are experiencing a problem, you might very well notice a difference!

Chip
My analysis is based on a few basic things.. a few games, what settings are detected using the "detect optimal frequencies" button in coolbits, 3dmark, et cetera. As I said before.. I see nothing different. No noticible boosts in anything, no obvious regressions.

I wasn't having any of the stuttering problems others have had, so I couldn't tell you if it fixes anything like that.

On a side note, HDR FarCry sure is pretty. :)

Slammin
11-03-04, 01:45 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=12&projectId=244993

I haven't seen my card this fast since the 65.72 drivers. This bios is definitely faster than my stock bios @1.4v on my BGF GT OC.

Mojoe
11-03-04, 02:02 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=12&projectId=244993

I haven't seen my card this fast since the 65.72 drivers. This bios is definitely faster than my stock bios @1.4v on my BGF GT OC.

The project id is not valid - please check the URL.

Slammin
11-03-04, 02:10 PM
I guess my non-cert drivers. Here's the pertinent info:

General Information
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
DirectX Version 9.0c
Mobo Manufacturer http://www.abit.com.tw/
Mobo Model IC7-MAX3(Intel i875P-ICH5)
AGP Rates (Current/Available) 8x / 4x, 8x
CPU Intel Pentium 4 3715 MHz
FSB 247 MHz
Memory 1024 MB

Display Information
Graphics Chipset NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
Driver Name NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
Driver Version 7.0.4.1
Driver Status Non WHQL - Not FM Approved
Video Memory 256 MB
Core Clock 430 MHz
Memory Clock 1063 MHz

Benchmark Settings
Program Version 3DMark05 Revision 1 Build 0
Resolution 1024x768@32 bit
Anti-Aliasing None
Texture Filtering Optimal
Vertex Shader Profile 3_0
Pixel Shader Profile 3_0
Force Full Precision Off
Disable DST Off
Disable Post-processing Off
Force Software Vertex Shaders Off
Color Mipmaps Off
Repeat Count Off

Main Test Results
3DMark Score 5472 3DMarks
CPU Score 4887 CPUMarks
Detailed Test Results
Game Tests
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 23.2 fps
GT2 - Firefly Forest 16.0 fps
GT3 - Canyon Flight 28.3 fps
CPU Tests
CPU Test 1 2.6 fps
CPU Test 2 4.1 fps

Mojoe
11-03-04, 02:15 PM
I beat you with my setup, 5598.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=136563

Slammin
11-03-04, 02:24 PM
Very nice. I'm a little shell-shocked with pushing my memory up. Even though coolbits will autodetect it at 1.21, if I attempt 3DMark05 at anything above 1.10 I can usually bet I will get the paisley screen garbage and lockup, so I usually just leave my memory at 1.05 or so.

This is weird though - comparing your results to mine:

Main Test Results =========== My results listed first
3DMark Score
(3DMarks)
5472
5598

CPU Score
(CPUMarks)
4887
3853

Detailed Test Results

Game Tests
GT1 - Return To Proxycon
(fps)
23.2
24.4

GT2 - Firefly Forest
(fps)
16.0
16.0

GT3 - Canyon Flight
(fps)
28.3
28.7

CPU Tests
CPU Test 1
(fps)
2.6
1.7

CPU Test 2
(fps)
4.1
3.8


Seems weird your score is so much higher.

hyakki
11-04-04, 01:58 AM
i just compared the PNY Rev 02 bios with the eVGA Rev 02 Bios in a hex editor and it showed that the 2 bios are identical not even one difference since i know for a fact that the PNY bios is PAL so would the eVGA bios ..now pal/ntsc bios shouldn't hurt anything since its only noticeable if you have a TV plugged in at boot up (it will scroll or maybe show distorted / black and white image) when you get into windows it will return to normal detecting your TV frequency to NTSC-*

here is image of compare
PNY REV 02 (LEFT) eVGA REV 02 (RIGHT)
Bios Compare (http://img113.exs.cx/img113/7192/Clip_5.png)

and here is the so called "changes" from the rev 1 and 2 bios
the backup.rom is direct off my PNY card and is .01

Rev 01 (left) Rev 02 (right) (http://img113.exs.cx/img113/2421/Clip_3.png)
Rev 01 (left) Rev 02 (right) (http://img107.exs.cx/img107/9972/Clip_4.png)
Rev 01 (left) Rev 02 (right) (http://img113.exs.cx/img113/9972/Clip_4.png)
31->32 (this is just version id 5.40.02.15.(31->)01/(32->)02)
01->02 (maybe more version ids or country codes)
01->02
30->33
BB->B5
(5 BYTE difference) not much of a change if you ask me :)

what is shown in the screen shots are the ONLY difference's in the rev 2 files it just tells it to be PAL


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5.40.02.23.06 BIOS
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i know another bios Just appeared over at nvnews this bios is version
5.40.02.23.06 how ever since this bios is so dramatically different than the rev 01 bios i will not try it until it becomes official i have a feeling its a ultra bios put into the GT category
i dont see why they would "change" the .15 to .23 in the bios revison so makes me think its a fluke

Rev 01 (left) Rev ? (right) (http://img107.exs.cx/img107/3909/Clip_2.png)

but i would wait for an official bios off your video cards website since bios on mkv's site can come from anywhere in the world and / or can even be a very badly modified bios (since anyone can submit them) and severely damage your card

always use common sense when flashing BIOS and or FIRMWARE if you necessarily don't have any problems then don't flash it almost 90% of the time it will not make the card any faster or it could be a fix to a specific card manufacture if it wasn't made for your card it could cause you big problems.

sniggle
11-04-04, 03:34 AM
i just flashed my bfg 6800gt oc with this bios with no issue. my clock speed seems a little unstable at 420/1100, but it wasn't necessarily great with that speed before the flash. will leave it for now, unless it keeps happening at lower speeds.

Chippy
11-04-04, 03:51 AM
(5 BYTE difference) not much of a change if you ask me :)


Lets see that's 40 bits. So 40 additional features switched on (1) in the new bios that were disabled (0) in the old one perhaps?

Only joking, but seriously just because its only 5 bytes doesn't mean there's not some significant difference. It could be a voltage change or a different timing for the memory or.... or anything really.

Chip

iyos
11-04-04, 05:59 AM
Lets see that's 40 bits. So 40 additional features switched on (1) in the new bios that were disabled (0) in the old one perhaps?

Only joking, but seriously just because its only 5 bytes doesn't mean there's not some significant difference. It could be a voltage change or a different timing for the memory or.... or anything really.

Chip

My sentiments exactly. 5 Bytes in a bit world are actually a lot, and can make a considerable difference.

However, judging my the overall lack of 'Yes it increased performance/stability', it would be a good guess to assume he is right, and it's more of a format/location update.

hyakki
11-04-04, 08:03 AM
well the rev 02 bios is PAL where rev 01 is ntsc ..that would be about 4 bytes to change :)

(well its actually 4 bytes since first byte is just for the bios version ID)
and last byte might not be important

however the new bios (5.40.02.23.06) is very different even the NV40 Board in hex is different ..but it really isnt new its internal date claims its 7/22/04

rev 1 is (06/02/04) and rev 2
NV40 Board - P201-7

the new bios (5.40.02.23.06) is (maybe a new PCB revision came out?)
NV40 Board - P201-8n

almost 90% rewritten ..or maybe its a modified ultra to gt bios or its limited edition bios

if it was from a limited edition card (ultras that had some problem and downclocked and / or had some part of the hardware disabled sold as gt or nu)

people who tried this bios might have disabled part of the card ..that is if its from a limited edition

ill wait for an official bios first :)

joeyddr
11-04-04, 07:04 PM
i cant flash it i get board mismatch id , how are you flashing the bfg 6800gt with this bios?

JRd1st
11-04-04, 07:24 PM
i cant flash it i get board mismatch id , how are you flashing the bfg 6800gt with this bios?

If your using nvflash then nvflash -p -u -2 -f filename.rom

the -2 overrides the board mismatch error

joeyddr
11-04-04, 08:01 PM
what version of nvflash should i use?