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Sem
11-06-04, 03:21 PM
can anyone tell me what ns ram the non golden sample 6800GT uses

also whats the average overclock on these cards

thanks

circuitbreaker8
11-06-04, 04:49 PM
Pretty sure all 6800 GT's use 2.0ns chips, but you can get lucky and get 1.6ns.

AStaley
11-06-04, 05:28 PM
Is there any software out there that can determine what RAM and speed you have on the GFX card?

AStaley

rohit
11-07-04, 05:29 AM
Gainward 6800GT 2.0ns ddr3
Gainward 6800GT GS 1.6ns ddr3

There ain't no softeare that can tell the ram's ns
But u can determine it ur-self. For eg. Its difficult for ram of 1.6ns to clok beyond 1200MHz (or 1.2 GHz), so if the card is cloked with 1.2 GHz ram then it surely is 1.6ns
Similarly for 2.0ns, it cloks max to 1100Mhz (or 1.1 Ghz)

2.2 (i dont think so exists) but will b sumthin around 960Mhz - 1000Mhz

AStaley
11-07-04, 05:35 AM
Are you the Gainward 6800GT GS cards are using 1.6ns RAM, the website shows them as using the slower 2.00ns RAM? Although the newer "Goes Like Hell" cards do have 1.6ns.

I may have to open my case back up and look at the labels on the RAM to see what mine has been equiped with.

AStaley

rohit
11-07-04, 07:02 AM
"Goes like hell" is for 6600 series. (although i donno)
& GS does hav 1.6ns ram, accordin to the users in this forum, hu hav used the the gT GS cards.
-Yeah there is a diff, the older Gainward 6800GT GS with regular aluminum cooler had 2.0ns rams.
-While the new 6800GT GS cards, with the dual fan cooler has 1.6ns ram.
Now if they've recently changed the spex of 6800GT GS, thn i donno.

But as far as i kno, GOES LIKE HELL is for 6600 series (its kind of a anew GOlden SAmple).

AStaley
11-07-04, 10:50 AM
6800GT Chart. (http://www.gainward.de/new/products/agp/ultra_2000/comparison2.html)

Above is the link to the Gainward site with the specs for the 6800GT cards, going to take a look at my card in little while and see if I can check what is on mine.

AStaley

rohit
11-08-04, 04:25 AM
Alrite, my bad, i googled a bit, and didnt find anywhere, GOLDEN SAMPLE GT has 1.6ns ram. pro'lly was my theory that 1200mhz will b a 1.6ns mem.

But i surely hav read somewhere, i guess on these forums only, that the GT GS has 1.6ns ram. But what also contradicts it, is if the GT GS has 1.6ns ram and 400mhz core, then hu will buy the expensive regular ultra with same spex??

So i come up to the conclusion: that either GT GS has a speacial 1.8ns kindaa ram that wuld o/c to 1200. Or, The GS are made in such a way so that they easily o/c to 400/1200

to sum up, regular GT 350/1000: uncertain of o/c to 400/1200
GS GT 400/1100: certained to reach 400/1200

s-flow
11-08-04, 04:46 AM
All Gainward 6800 GT has 2.0ns ram including the GS.
The "Golden Sample" does 400/1100 in enhanced mode.

Gainward simply put the wrong specs up at the release.

Average overclock.. guessing here, GT 1050 and GT GS 1130 with reference
cooler and no v-mod...

Knot3D
11-08-04, 04:55 AM
Yeah, my golden sample GT is bios 15.01 which is the 2nd batch GT's by Gainward ; it has 2.0ns DDR3 memory.

With the first batch they indeed tried with 1.6ns memory, but the ones they got didn't do so well in their golden sample tests. So, they took some very good 2.0ns memory.

Anyway, my card works fine at 400/1100. Haven't tried to go further yet.

NoiR
11-08-04, 05:04 AM
As for me, I own a Gainward Ultra/2400 PowerPack. It is a 6800 GT with 2.0 ns RAM.

I can OC the card to 415/1112 without artifacts etc. after running 3dmark 05 for about 2 hours. No need for me to buy a Golden Sample card :)

Temperatures at these clocks: GPU ~78C , RAM ~52C in a non-vented-miditower. Waiting for my Antec P160 with 2 120mm Fans, i think the temperatures will be a little lower then.

edit: It also have the 5.40.02.15.01 Bios.

P.S. excuse my bad english :angel2:

Danhill
11-08-04, 01:24 PM
Gainward 6800GT 2.0ns ddr3
Gainward 6800GT GS 1.6ns ddr3

There ain't no softeare that can tell the ram's ns
But u can determine it ur-self. For eg. Its difficult for ram of 1.6ns to clok beyond 1200MHz (or 1.2 GHz), so if the card is cloked with 1.2 GHz ram then it surely is 1.6ns
Similarly for 2.0ns, it cloks max to 1100Mhz (or 1.1 Ghz)

2.2 (i dont think so exists) but will b sumthin around 960Mhz - 1000Mhz

Hmmm I'm not sure about that, I have...at least I think I have 2,0 ns and I have no problem what so ever getting at 1200, I even managed to get to 1230.

MustangSVT
11-08-04, 07:18 PM
I don't know what mem mine has, but I can get 1200 on it without problems.

Burnt_Ram
11-09-04, 09:25 AM
that chart claims my GS hjas 2.0ns mem. can't see how tho, i can clock my memory to 1248 100% stable ! if indeed it is 2.0ns then its some real HIGH quality stuff to do the clock speeds i run at ;)

Knot3D
11-09-04, 09:31 AM
Gainward Europe has their 1.6ns GT's listed on their site. They're named
golden sample GLH (Goes Like Hell) GT ; they DO cost a bit more though.

Marcos
11-09-04, 09:42 AM
is it really called "goes like hell" that sounds like worse english than mine.

Knot3D
11-09-04, 10:25 AM
Funny thing is they got that phrase copyrighted or trademarked.

rohit
11-27-04, 06:20 AM
WELL NOW I HAV PROOF!

Gainward 6800GT GS uses 1.6ns ram.

http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD05MjY=

AStaley
11-27-04, 09:33 AM
There are two seperate models, 1 is the standard 6800GT GS which has the 2.00ns RAM and the 2nd (newer) is the one mentioned in that review which is the 1.6ns RAM "Goes like Hell".

Although wounder if the phrase "Goes Like Hell" simply means "gets really hot, really quick" :)

AStaley

rohit
11-29-04, 03:10 AM
OOPS, Sorry, didnt notice "GLH" written!
My Bad!

mustrum
11-29-04, 03:46 AM
Those GLH are so expensive i don't understand the reason of their existance. Why not buy a real ULTRA . There you get a second molex and can clock even higher.

rohit
11-29-04, 03:51 AM
Those GLH are so expensive i don't understand the reason of their existance. Why not buy a real ULTRA . There you get a second molex and can clock even higher.
thats the point, its an 6800Ultra, without 1 molex connector.
now the person wuld buy wich is cheeper for him. the ultra or GLH.
Gainward i s competeing wid its own products... jus like nv did with fx generation..with the launch of 5900XT, 5700U was ignored by every sensible person.

Danhill
11-29-04, 06:27 AM
It's still cheaper than an Ultra thats for sure.

saturnotaku
11-29-04, 06:37 AM
with the launch of 5900XT, 5700U was ignored by every sensible person.

The 6800 GT and Ultra are essentially the same card, just with lower clock speeds and a different heatsink setup. The 5700 Ultra was a 128-bit card, the 5900XT was 256, making it the much better bargain. Your point is well taken, but the comparison isn't necessarily valid because of that critical difference between the two last-generation cards.

Lars
11-29-04, 03:07 PM
Well I just got a Gainward 6800GT GS GLH a couple of weeks ago. I really wanted to try out a Nvidia card again, as I haven't owned one since I got a R9700PRO. Before that I've owned every single generation Nvidia cards since my Diamond Viper 330 pci card, so it's kinda like "coming home".... LOL :)

Anyway, I would've gotten the fastest Ultra card available, but they're just so hard to come by in Europe, so I figured I'd try this 400/1200 Mhz card out. The GLH version does have 1.6 ns memory, however although I can overclock the memory beyond 1200 Mhz without artifacts, performance will decrease, at least in benchmarks. The core however easily does 430 Mhz on the retail cooler. Speaking of the cooler, that sucker is louder than loud. Fortunately it can be controlled through ExpertTools, I usually keep it @ 50% so I don't go crazy. I play @ the enhanced 400/1200 Mhz setting, and I've done 12 chapters of HL2 @ 1600x1200 4x FSAA 8x AF at this setting without any problems, so when Gainward says it works at the Enhanced settings in any system, well it does.. :)

The quality of the Gainward card is simply excellent.