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anzak
11-10-04, 07:07 PM
Does anyone know anything about these new Sound Blaster Live cards? It's only $30 and supports 24bit digital sound and a 7.1 speaker system. Here is the Newegg link:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=29-102-176&depa=0

anzak
11-10-04, 07:47 PM
I ordered it. Should be a huge upgrade over my lame integrated sound.

superklye
11-10-04, 07:48 PM
I ordered it. Should be a huge upgrade over my lame integrated sound.

Hell man, it should be huge upgrade over my SB Live! 5.1 which is only 16-bit.

No DTS or Dolby Digital though, huh?

anzak
11-10-04, 08:07 PM
Hell man, it should be huge upgrade over my SB Live! 5.1 which is only 16-bit.

No DTS or Dolby Digital though, huh?

It supports Dolby Digital 5.1 but not 6.1 EX. No DTS support what so ever. Still a great value IMO.

I had it shipped overnight along with a Volcano 12 and NV Silencer. It's amazing how one game can affect you. :rolleyes:

superklye
11-11-04, 11:41 AM
Oh man...I used to have the Volcano 11+...that thing was terrible! I had to have it on full blast (5400RPM) CONSTANTLY to keep idle temps around 50C. I got the SLK-900A and a generic 2400RPM 80mm fan and the temps are around 37-40C idle and it's QUIET.

six_storm
11-11-04, 11:55 AM
That's a pretty good deal. Wonder where you can find a good/cheap 7.1 speaker set? LOL.

zoomy942
11-11-04, 12:16 PM
i wonder is it is hardware decoding of what. i am just wary of it cause it is so thin.

superklye
11-11-04, 12:20 PM
That's a pretty good deal. Wonder where you can find a good/cheap 7.1 speaker set? LOL.

Yeah, no kidding...do they make a Z640-esque 7.1 set?

harl
11-11-04, 12:33 PM
warning maybe it's like the Audigy LS wich uses CPU like and integrated card

jAkUp
11-11-04, 12:39 PM
Well at least it has EAX support :)

ragejg
11-11-04, 12:46 PM
Yeah, I wonder if this is a true Live!, or if it's actually a trimmed down Audigy1....

anzak
11-11-04, 09:40 PM
I believe this card is more like a (somewhat) trimmed down Audigy 1 like ragejg said. I would not mind that. :)

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=8674&stc=1

john19055
11-11-04, 11:03 PM
I looked at the vaule Audigy 2 7.1 but it looked like it was lacking ,so I went ahead and got the Audigy 2ZS gamers edition since it came with five games of witch I have none of them,so to me it was a good deal to get $150 to $200 worth of games and the Audigy 2 ZS sound card for $111,.but for that card at that price if it works without eating up CPU cycles it will be well worth $30.

zoomy942
11-12-04, 11:24 AM
i FINALLY found someone saying something about this card

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?mode=productreviewread&product_id=12840

anzak
11-12-04, 11:25 AM
It turns out this new Live chip is just a repackaged version of the Audigy LS. The LS used an enhanced version of the older Emu10k1 (the APU used for the original live cards). Its still a great performer.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=8687&stc=1

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=8688&stc=1

Expect an in depth review in a few weeks!

zoomy942
11-14-04, 01:08 AM
i hope it is, cause i ordered one this morning!

saturnotaku
11-14-04, 08:31 AM
I wish there was a comparison available that shows performance figures of this card versus the Realtek ALC850. If there is a performance gain to be had by moving to this particular Sound Blaster, I might move up to this one.

anzak
11-14-04, 10:22 PM
I wish there was a comparison available that shows performance figures of this card versus the Realtek ALC850. If there is a performance gain to be had by moving to this particular Sound Blaster, I might move up to this one.

Since the ALC850 uses the CPU to do all of the sound processing then yes, you should see a performance gain. Don't forget about sound quality. Your current chip only supports 16bit sound, 48 voices, and EAX 1.

Although you might want to wait for my review because the ALC850 will be the comparison chip.

Fahim
11-15-04, 09:46 AM
Maybe it is the same live card with modded audigy driver to work with 7.1 and in 24-bit mode?

anzak
11-15-04, 05:40 PM
Maybe it is the same live card with modded audigy driver to work with 7.1 and in 24-bit mode?

7.1 support and 24bit sound is not something you can add with drivers. They require hardware support.

I just installed the card. Hooked up my headphones first and well, I did not notice much of an improvement while playing music. My 4.1 speaker system is a totally different story. The sound quality is nothing short of amazing when compared to my old integrated sound. I even enjoy using them now. :)

I'll try CS: Source here in a few minutes and report back with my findings.

I also installed an NV Silencer 5 and Volcano 12. The NV Silencer dropped my idle temp 8 degrees and the Volcano 12 dropped my idle temp 15 degrees (That is with half fan speed too!).

saturnotaku
11-15-04, 06:49 PM
I'll try CS: Source here in a few minutes and report back with my findings.

Please do. I'm going to be very curious to see how games fare with this card. Performance is all I care about. Sound quality is secondary because my speakers suck. :)

zoomy942
11-15-04, 07:18 PM
Please do. I'm going to be very curious to see how games fare with this card. Performance is all I care about. Sound quality is secondary because my speakers suck. :)

i agree. i am giving up my audigy 1 (dont ask) so i got one of these on the way. i hope its worth it

anzak
11-15-04, 07:32 PM
The performance gain in CS:Source is very slim. Only about 2fps in CPU bound situations. I did see a nice gain in Call of Duty with EAX enabled though. Before CoD was choppy with EAX and now everything runs smooth as silk with EAX3 24bit! The sound is almost DVD quality. Now all I need is a 7.1 set of speakers.

Still, the only real reason to buy this card is for better sound quality. The small performance gain is not worth $30.

tristancarton
11-15-04, 07:59 PM
here is a good review and comparison between alc650 codecs and audigy series http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/print/int-sound2.html

saturnotaku
11-15-04, 08:02 PM
The small performance gain is not worth $30.

That's all I really needed to know. Though I might pick one of these up in a couple weeks when I get a paycheck that hasn't been reduced because of unpaid vacation.