EverQuest 2 performance discussion thread

[ssj4goku887]

mine doesnt really lag at all with high settings :\ 6800 Ultra 2GB of ram a64 4000+ 2 wd raptors in raid 0 with a msi k8n neo2 platinum mobo

[Connaught]

:) Go figure,

I have found that the (66.81) driver gave me better performance that the 66.93 Driver...something to consider maybe...

[Tyr-Sog]

Actually I just played at high settings with textures set to maxed, 1280x1064, 4xAA, 16xAF and it was running smooth. Must be patching the hell out of it because a week ago I couldn't. I had some disk swapping here and there so I may pick anoth gig or 512mb up tomorrow.

[-=DVS=-]

Heh ultimate tweak for EQ2 if ya got 1 gig or over of RAM , turn off Virtual Ram / Pageing File.

No more Hard Drive torture , zones load faster , no suttering related to HDD :drooling:

[Tyr-Sog]

Heh ultimate tweak for EQ2 if ya got 1 gig or over of RAM , turn off Virtual Ram / Pageing File.

No more Hard Drive torture , zones load faster , no suttering related to HDD :drooling:


I'll give it a try because I renig my preveous comment. This game is "beeped". It runs ok when first loaded but give it about 1-2 hours and it's not even playable, espeically in cities. It doesn't matter what options you run in game or in the NV control panel.

I guess they're limiting it to a NV problem and here's a response from SOE.

ok, here is what we have, the issue with the geforce 6800 GT has been sent to Nvidia to have them figue out why increasing the AA works, next, the majority of the issue people are having as far as connectivity and crashes are due to firewalls and routers, pop up blockers, etc... next crashing at play, this is hardware related, check drivers and direct x , this may be also due to service pack 2 but we are not sure, seems that some are fixed when service pack 2 is removed the direct x 9.0 c re-installed, next, crashing at the character select play screen, this is networking, again, check the usual. Next FPS issues, these are only being eased by driver updates and proper mainenance, but it is improving as we continue to fix issues we run across, please keep the /bug reports coming, we are paying attention.

So whatever. As much as I like this game I'll give the game up to two months and if it's not fixed I'll cancel my subscribtion.

Also, disabling the virtual ram, what is the downside to that and is virtual ram and page filing two different things? I found virtual ram options but nothing on page filing. :retard:

[borntosoul]

the game is a system killer full stop! the computer needs to be running as few things as possible, make sure of that. for me, once i reinstalled windows it ran much better, system needs to be ultra clean. 1 gig of mem helps for loading times (from experience). also i like to add to the people who bought expensive cards (6800u) and are complaining about performance- the game is designed to be enjoyed for years to come, so dont complain if youre brand spanking new vid card cant play it 80% + graphic quality. JUST ENJOY THE DAMN GAME, swallow your pride and turn the setting down a bit, i know its a bit slow but hey, you cant have everything.

[|MaguS|]

Heh ultimate tweak for EQ2 if ya got 1 gig or over of RAM , turn off Virtual Ram / Pageing File.

No more Hard Drive torture , zones load faster , no suttering related to HDD :drooling:


I tried this and after 3 hours of heavy grouping I recieved a windows error stating I was out of virtual memory (um didn't I turn it off...) and then a Dx error popped up right afterwards.

[Tyr-Sog]

I tried this and after 3 hours of heavy grouping I recieved a windows error stating I was out of virtual memory (um didn't I turn it off...) and then a Dx error popped up right afterwards.



Samething. 1gig is not enough to do this :)

[Tyr-Sog]

the game is a system killer full stop! the computer needs to be running as few things as possible, make sure of that. for me, once i reinstalled windows it ran much better, system needs to be ultra clean. 1 gig of mem helps for loading times (from experience). also i like to add to the people who bought expensive cards (6800u) and are complaining about performance- the game is designed to be enjoyed for years to come, so dont complain if youre brand spanking new vid card cant play it 80% + graphic quality. JUST ENJOY THE DAMN GAME, swallow your pride and turn the setting down a bit, i know its a bit slow but hey, you cant have everything.

lol, it doesn't matter what setting you play at, it swaps no matter what. I've done the lowest setting possiable and it's no differnt once the stuttering starts.

[Slybri]

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PC setup is in the sig. All drivers are up to date and the only thing overclocked is the 6800gt. Which I downed clocked from running stable at 420/1150 for months now to 400/1100 for this game.

.[/QUOTE]

damn, how'd you get your PNY that high? Are you watercooling? Mine barely gets past 400/1000 and ive got extra fans near it to help cool. anything else and I get texture smearing....

Oh, BTW. WoW > EQ2

[-=DVS=-]

Dunno guys whats your problem i playd all day , with Pageing File turned off, never had disk access , everything was much smoother , EQ2 in ram took depending from zone from 450 megs to almoust 600 , worst situation i had 26 megs left from 1 gig but everything ran normal.

Windows Xp Pro SP1

[Tyr-Sog]

I just played around a 3 hour run and had the task manager/performance tab open in my second monitor.

PF usuage started out around 400-500mb. At around the 3 hour mark it was at almost 1500mb and stuttering bad, cities wern't even playable.

[-=DVS=-]

I just played around a 3 hour run and had the task manager/performance tab open in my second monitor.

PF usuage started out around 400-500mb. At around the 3 hour mark it was at almost 1500mb and stuttering bad, cities wern't even playable.

Thats becouse when you have Paging file on EverQuest 2 keep feeding your disk with stuff you don't need *memory leak* when paging file is off , it only uses ram and when you zone or whatever it deletes old info and loads new , without couseing *memory leak* atleast thats what i think . If ya got 1 gig of ram or more ,there is no reason why would you need Paging File :eek:



http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=8956&stc=1

[Tyr-Sog]

Thats what I did(no paging file) then got that error after my PF usage exceeded 1gb.

I hit 1.5gb after changing it back to "System Manage".

I dunno, the game definitly has some issues that need to be worked on regardless of quick fix work arounds.

[|MaguS|]

Dunno guys whats your problem i playd all day , with Pageing File turned off, never had disk access , everything was much smoother , EQ2 in ram took depending from zone from 450 megs to almoust 600 , worst situation i had 26 megs left from 1 gig but everything ran normal.

Windows Xp Pro SP1

You must be playing the game at lower settings then me since the game can take up more then 700MB's for me at times. Maybe im rendering more then you... my draw distance is pretty high up (pushed it farther then default).

[MikeC]

New information from Chris Ray on improving performance:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41689

[borntosoul]

lol, it doesn't matter what setting you play at, it swaps no matter what. I've done the lowest setting possiable and it's no differnt once the stuttering starts.

i know that already lol, i was just talking in general, how many people have enough dough to get 2 gigs of ram??? i know it helps but im not going that far. 2 gig cost me nearly 3x more than 1 gig.. not worth the price at the moment.

[Highlynder77]

I have a question. I'm getting ready to build a new system and get a new card. Currently I have an ATI 9600XT and it runs EQ2 pretty good...some lag in heavy spell graphics, but its playable. Now, should I wait till they fix the issue with the 6800GT, because its on my list to buy when I upgrade, and just use what I have now for a while longer or buy the 6800 and take the chance that these suggestions will fix any problems I have?

[Tyr-Sog]

I have a question. I'm getting ready to build a new system and get a new card. Currently I have an ATI 9600XT and it runs EQ2 pretty good...some lag in heavy spell graphics, but its playable. Now, should I wait till they fix the issue with the 6800GT, because its on my list to buy when I upgrade, and just use what I have now for a while longer or buy the 6800 and take the chance that these suggestions will fix any problems I have?


Personally if I was building a PC today, I'd hold out for a couple more weeks. See if there is a fix for this game with the 6800 series and go from there. The other alternative is if there isn't a fix at the time of purchasing I'd diffently go the X800XT(PE) PCI-E route that monarch is claiming to have in the 3rd week of DEC. just my .02$


Edit, also there is word of 512mb cards right around the corner, may want to check in to it.

[-=DVS=-]

You must be playing the game at lower settings then me since the game can take up more then 700MB's for me at times. Maybe im rendering more then you... my draw distance is pretty high up (pushed it farther then default).

Did some more testing and highest reached was almoust 900MBs , High Quality setting , textures to max , Specular Lights off , Shadows almoust all off except for one. in a city with players running FPS ~25 :p rangeing to 70 when not looking very far out with lotsa action :D . But yeah 1 Gig is not enough i noticed going from High textures to Max adds 100 megs or so (World Textures alone), so riseing setting higher in big zones can add up , but if you got 2 gigs of ram with Pageing Off its no problem at all.
EQ2 did force me to get extra gig of ram :p .

[Blacklash]

I have been fine with the game and my set up,

Doing 1280x960 4xAA 8xAF, Very High Quality. Yes cities do drop my FPS and it is still smooth/playable. The worst performance I have had with the game was when I was on Antonia Bayle at the start during peak hours. At that time that server was regularly at full/full status. Then I got a slide shows to freezing in some areas, particularly the player cities.

If you can't open doors, interact with merchants and chat text stops it is likely server latency due to too much load/players, not your rig. Try playing off hours, or switch servers in that case.

Some people do indeed set the game entirely too high. SOE has stated there isn't a rig out now that should/could run EQ 2 smoothly/well at highest of settings.

[Tyr-Sog]

lol, I turned my setting all the way downz(from Balanced minus shadows/flora) to the lowest settings last night in order to kill the mobs on the Maid of the Mist. It was still horrible performance. Shortly after I was on the Enchanted Lands the game wasn't even playable. Gated back the Qeynos and it was a slideshow through the tunnel in to the village. All on very high performance.

btw, I've had a vaction for the lastweek and played at all hours of the day and there was no difference with the performance issue.

[shinrai]

Pretty obvious this game is cpu limited with ram also playing a significant role.

I guess that's why maybe i'm not ready for it because my system isn't. If i can't play the game with at least a combo of balanced and high quality but more so balanced, then for me there's no point. I'm a gamer that wants to be visually stimulated aswell as enjoy the gameplay. I didn't break the piggy bank for the 6800gt so i could play a game that doesn't look better than something i played a few years ago and then at half the frames.

I have an a64, 6800gt, 1 gig ram. I'll probably start playing this game when i do the big upgrade to dual core cpu'd and 2 gig ram.

Yes, all those wads who think i'm not a true gamer can now flame me.

[-=DVS=-]

Guys you do know that sometimes server can get overloaded one some peak hours and just lag you to death , brings fps way down , and that got nothing to do with graphic settings be it High Quality or Performance. Depends on what server you play i guess .

[Wicasta]

One of the most annoying things for me is that whenever I complain about performance issues in Everquest 2 some idiot tells me that I should tweak my performance settings or assumes that I'm running everything at the highest possible settings.

Look, just because EQ2 works fine on your computer does not mean that other people are not having problems, or that they're idiots who don't know how to tweak the settings. My wife and I have almost identical systems in the clockspeed and memory areas, and while I can barely run the game she has no problems at all.

I have a Pentium 4 processor running at 3.4gHz, with 1 met L2 cache and 2 gigs of RAM. I do not have a crap system. The main differences between my wife's computer and mind is that mine is a laptop and hers is a desktop.

My game settings have already been tweaked. My system has been tweaked to an incredible degree. And still, with a high-speed cable connection and over 1 gig of memory free while EQ2 is running, the game still plays like crap. If, as someone suggested, Sony has designed EQ2 with future video cards in mind, that's small consolation to those of us who'd like to play it today.

And before anyone can go analyzing me or my system, I should point out that my main character is level 42 and my secondary is 37. I am not a newcomer to EQ2. For a long time EQ2 played fine on my system. But in the past six months or so, I have noticed the game getting slower and slower with each succesive patch, eventually reaching the point where I am now, where I literally cannot play the game at even a modest framerate. This suggests that there is a programming problem. Something that Sony is doing that is nerfing the game.

If EQ2 works fine on your system, I'm happy for you. I think it's great. But don't pat the rest of us on the head if we're having problems. I contend that if we were to compare out systems and our settings, as my wife and I have done, you find no easy explanation as to why her system runs EQ2 so much better than mine. I suspect it has something to do with my video card, but my system is far from being a push-over.

I know how to tweak the settings, and I have done so. But at this point, there is simply nothing left to tweak.

- Wicasta Lovelace

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