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StealthHawk
11-16-02, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by DrAkO
Yeah!

We have a first test with a Granite Bay and DDR266 Dual Channel

http://www.ocworkbench.com/2002/asus/p4g8x/p4g8xp1.htm

Check this, the DDR266 have similar performance then RAMBUS PC800.

But for me, i will wait for Springdale at Q1 or Q2 2003, he support FSB 667 and Prescott Processor, DDR333 Dual Channel, AGP 8X, Serial ATA.

it should be faster. i mean, DDR33 is already almost at the level of PC800 RDRAM. dual channel DDR200 should be at the same level, IMO it would probably be faster. dual channel DDR266 should be faster, faster, faster dammit!

disclaimer: i didn't look at the benchmarks. are those the same benchmarks that were posted as image files in a forum? anyway, just disregard this rant if dual channel DDR266 is faster than PC800 :)

the 2800+ is out now, dude

in select OEM systems...

budd_wm
11-16-02, 09:07 PM
Heh, I'm just gonna watercool and overclock. :D

imtim83
11-16-02, 09:10 PM
The Athlon XP 2800+ you can buy at www.newegg.com right now. It is in stock last time i checked.

StealthHawk
11-16-02, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by imtim83
The Athlon XP 2800+ you can buy at www.newegg.com right now. It is in stock last time i checked.

i went to the Processor section, AMD section, and searched for "2800" and came up with no results :o

imtim83
11-16-02, 09:32 PM
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=manufactory&catalog=343&manufactory=1028&description=&page=3

Look near the middle of the page. :)

budd_wm
11-16-02, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by StealthHawk
i went to the Processor section, AMD section, and searched for "2800" and came up with no results :o

Err....it's called looking.

Fotis
11-17-02, 01:57 AM
Is it worldwide available or only in US?:rolleyes:

StealthHawk
11-17-02, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by budd_wm
Err....it's called looking.

um, why should i look for something when i can just search for it? i don't know if it's on the first page or not.

as a side note, searching for "2800" or "2800+" now brings up the result, but it didn't earlier today. odd.

Bigus Dickus
11-17-02, 10:37 PM
Uttar,

In your first post in this thread, you compared your estimate of NV30's effective bandwidth with R300's raw bandwidth. How exactly does that work?


That article from the Inq. was a complete joke. They may be right as far as the overall picture (NV30 being 30% faster in some cases), but with the obvious stupidity in that article I'll hold judgment until I see an actual review.

The NV30 chip will feature eight pipelines and two TMUs – that's one more than ATI – and this will give it quite a boost since it will be able to render 16 textures per pass.

They do realize that the R300 renders 16 textures per pass as well? Perhaps they are talking about 16 textures per clock cycle? But surely they know that per pass is referring to each pixel pipeline, right? :rolleyes:

We can also confirm that with 1.0 GHz data rate plus Lightspeed Memory Architecture 3, a card will be able to reach an amazng 48 GB/s, double what the Radeon 9700 PRO can do with its DDR 256 bit memory.

Someone want to walk me through the math that gives 48 GB/s with 1GHz memory on a 128 bit bus? And how that can double 600 MHz memory on a 256 bit bus? Oh, wait, they were talking about effective, right, except that they didn't say that or even hint at that... especially considering they are comparing to R300's raw bandwidth. :rolleyes:

...anisotropic filtering will go up to 128 tap anisotropic filtering leaving ATI's methods in the dust.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 128 tap = 16x? Leaving in the dust? :rolleyes:

These guys don't know their ass from their left nostril. I sincerely believe they get one little snippet of "inside information" and then just make up the details to make a "good story." Too bad they are clueless about the things they discuss, and can't even make up logical details.

Uttar
11-18-02, 12:12 AM
That's how the Inquirer gets to it:
1Ghz memory on a 128 bit bus gives a raw bandwidth of 16GB/s
16*3 = 48

Yeah, it sure seems insane...

For the 16 textures/pass, The Inquirer is confused and, err, dumb :)

Yeah, I hardly see how 128 taps leave the R300 in the dust... It rather leaves the NV30 as a turtle...

Anyway, yeah, that article got a lot of mistakes & obvious proofs of ignorance.


Uttar

SavagePaladin
11-18-02, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Uttar
That's how the Inquirer gets to it:
1Ghz memory on a 128 bit bus gives a raw bandwidth of 16GB/s
16*3 = 48

Yeah, it sure seems insane...

For the 16 textures/pass, The Inquirer is confused and, err, dumb :)

Yeah, I hardly see how 128 taps leave the R300 in the dust... It rather leaves the NV30 as a turtle...

Anyway, yeah, that article got a lot of mistakes & obvious proofs of ignorance.


Uttar
A turtle eh? how do you know? you have one? :rolleyes:
Likely yes, definately no. I don't claim to know how much power that chip has for such things.

StealthHawk
11-18-02, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Bigus Dickus
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 128 tap = 16x? Leaving in the dust? :rolleyes:

These guys don't know their ass from their left nostril. I sincerely believe they get one little snippet of "inside information" and then just make up the details to make a "good story." Too bad they are clueless about the things they discuss, and can't even make up logical details.
the Inquirer turned on nvidia fanboy mode. and all nvidiots know that nvidia's AF implementation is vastly superior to ATI's in terms of quality. that's how they leave em in the dust :D