Greenpeace

[Kruno]

Aren't Greenpeace a bunch of Nazis?
AFAIK they are. There was this controversial former Greenpeace professor who is telling everyone what lies Greenpeace pull out of their rectums.
He was on 60minutes and I agree with that guy that a lot of what Greenpeace say is rubbish and/or blown out of proportion. We have wiped out 0.7% of species from this world NOT 50% or any large number that Greenpeace spew out of their ass.

Forests are saved everyday from logging. The world is a lot better than it was 100 years ago. Less famine etc...
Greenpeace not only blow things out of proportion but try and force that view on many others.

[intercede007]

I like it when they encircle Oil rigs in their outdated diesel boats that suck up thousands of gallons of fuel.

[LORD-eX-Bu]

I remember a few years ago(many) there was an offshore ballistic missile test fire(no warhead). Well, Greenpeace decided to challence a US Navy Sub and a destroyer as well as other naval ships. They got into the restricted zone and were holding up the test, they even went as far as to try and ram one of the ships, so what did the Navy do? hehehe, THEY RAMMED THEM BACK! BAHAHAHA! You should have seen the huge hole in the greenpeace ship, I wish it would have sunk......:(

[Kruno]

ROTFLMAO!!! Greenpeace are also hypocrites.

[thcdru2k]

they are hypocrites but they'res no denying..humans are perhaps better off, but the world and nature certainly are not.

[Kruno]

Actually nature and the likes are going to be better off. Like the guy said, things are improving. Not just quality of life. Nature is becoming more and more protected and we are slowly trying our best to grow more trees and the like. Logging jobs are going etc...

[thcdru2k]

considering the damage we've done, they'res no way to make up for it

[The Baron]

the world got hit by a giant asteroid and it wiped out, what, 95% of life on earth? Earth survived.

I DOUBT we can kill it unless we carpet nuke it.

[Kruno]

The world balances itself out. The damage will be gone given enough time. Though we can't replenish ore yet AFAIK but things like trees can regrow. :)
Was that your point?

Originally posted by thcdru2k
considering the damage we've done, they'res no way to make up for it

[Nephilim]

Actually, a few years ago one of my professors told me that there are actually more trees on planet today than there ever were in recorded history.

[Kruno]

No surprise there. :)

[stncttr908]

Carpet nuking sounds cool. Maybe there will be a master race of scorpions. :D

[Smokey]

Originally posted by Nephilim
Actually, a few years ago one of my professors told me that there are actually more trees on planet today than there ever were in recorded history.

And why do you think that is? Because at school we were all made aware of the damage that we were doing. Many tree planting days were arganized by schools, local governments etc. The trees we plant today, cant replace the trees of yesterday. Many spieces of plant have been lost. How long do you think it takes to rebuild a rainforrest? No Im sorry, I think for the most part Greenpeace and what it stands for is a good thing. If there are fat cats that are just in it for the money and they lie and crap, well thats sad, but it wouldnt be the first time thats ever happened to an organization! Also Killer, you may have forgotten that Greenpeace tried to stop the testing of nukes by the French, not to far from Oz? Just look at the news today and you will see that "another" oil tanker has sunk and leaked all its cargo into the sea, not far from Spain. This is like the 3rd oil tanker to loose its load near France/Spain in the last year. The enviroment is more fragile than you think, so please dont slag off people that at least are trying to do something about protecting it from ourselves.

[intercede007]

I'll be here another what, 40 to 60 years? I say, live it up while I got it!!!

Nuke a small, uninhabited island? Sure! Why the hell not? Just make sure to get some high-res pictures and a couple motion camera angles.

We should be driving hybrid-electric vehicles you say? Bah!! You can buy the one I don't, cause I'll take my 71 Plymouth 426 Hemi Barracuda any day!!!

Drill in Alaska! Drill off the shores of the Emerald Coast (local politics there)!

I've gone a little off the deep end I know, but I am just so darn sick of these whining animal rights/enviornmental groups. Cows are domesticated animals raised to die and the dinosaurs decomposed and compressed into plentiful amounts of the stuff that powers my wonderful german automobile. I think someone needs to take the greenies out for a night on the town and get um loaded up and find um a good time.

[Kruno]

You might also want to know that it happened anyway. Greenpeace will not be heard and have no power over what real governments want.
Greanpeace or not, the same things will happen.
Oil tankers will always leak oil out in the ocean and nothing can stop that.
Greenpeace are wasting money damnit. They are also the number 1 candidate for manipulation.
On top of that the nukes were well out of our range. On top of that species will always die at an alarming rate (0.7% in that human history recorded) even if humans never habitated the earth. On top of all that, things will always keep changing. On top of everything else, the universe always balances itself out.


Originally posted by Smokey
And why do you think that is? Because at school we were all made aware of the damage that we were doing. Many tree planting days were arganized by schools, local governments etc. The trees we plant today, cant replace the trees of yesterday. Many spieces of plant have been lost. How long do you think it takes to rebuild a rainforrest? No Im sorry, I think for the most part Greenpeace and what it stands for is a good thing. If there are fat cats that are just in it for the money and they lie and crap, well thats sad, but it wouldnt be the first time thats ever happened to an organization! Also Killer, you may have forgotten that Greenpeace tried to stop the testing of nukes by the French, not to far from Oz? Just look at the news today and you will see that "another" oil tanker has sunk and leaked all its cargo into the sea, not far from Spain. This is like the 3rd oil tanker to loose its load near France/Spain in the last year. The enviroment is more fragile than you think, so please dont slag off people that at least are trying to do something about protecting it from ourselves.

[Nephilim]

Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
On top of everything else, the universe always balances itself out.


Bingo!

[Smokey]

Originally posted by Nephilim
Bingo!

Sure maybe so before, before we got so involved in all the grand things that mankind has made and achieved. If we were part of the food chain just like the rest of the animals, if we didnt polute the seas, the sky, if we as humans didnt try to prolong our lives and just took life as it was and what it gave us, if we werent so materialistic, if we realise that McDonalds burgers really do taste like crap(I used to eat alot). Im not saying that we all have to make HUGE changes in our lives, but to turn a blind eye and think that we havent done any damage? I dont care if you eat meat, I dont care if you drive desiel cars. But you can make small changes in your lives, Im not here to tell you what to do, just giving my opinion so dont worry im not preaching here ;) I just we need to tak more care, if you dont think so, maybe read up on the paste mistakes that were make and corrected, clue, London early 20th century ;) just one example where pollution is concerned.

[LORD-eX-Bu]

Ewww man. YOU ATE McDONALDS?!?!? EWWW!!! SICK! Burger King is where its at, heh, then Jack in the Box. Never McDONALDS!:mad: :D

[Kruno]

Dude, it doesn't matter if we destroy our galaxy, everything balances out. If we are here or not.


Originally posted by Smokey
Sure maybe so before, before we got so involved in all the grand things that mankind has made and achieved. If we were part of the food chain just like the rest of the animals, if we didnt polute the seas, the sky, if we as humans didnt try to prolong our lives and just took life as it was and what it gave us, if we werent so materialistic, if we realise that McDonalds burgers really do taste like crap(I used to eat alot). Im not saying that we all have to make HUGE changes in our lives, but to turn a blind eye and think that we havent done any damage? I dont care if you eat meat, I dont care if you drive desiel cars. But you can make small changes in your lives, Im not here to tell you what to do, just giving my opinion so dont worry im not preaching here ;) I just we need to tak more care, if you dont think so, maybe read up on the paste mistakes that were make and corrected, clue, London early 20th century ;) just one example where pollution is concerned.

[Smokey]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
Ewww man. YOU ATE McDONALDS?!?!? EWWW!!! SICK! Burger King is where its at, heh, then Jack in the Box. Never McDONALDS!:mad: :D

Sorry no Burger King here in France, used to eat BK in London though and in Oz even though in Melbourne its called Hungry Jacks ;) Used to love the Whopper with cheese.

[Cereal-Killer]

Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
Dude, it doesn't matter if we destroy our galaxy, everything balances out. If we are here or not.
You're right, about 5 billion years from now our sun will run out of hydrogen gas and destroy the whole galaxy. Unfortunately, humans are going to turn this planet into one huge dumpster some 4.99999 billion years before that. Just add a few more layers of aerosol pollution over northern India and a few more oil spills in the sea, and you're half way there.

Here's a little analogy: just because I know I'm going to die in 60 years doesn't give me a reason to commit suicide right now.

Oh, and no offense K.I.L.E.R, just my $0.02 ;)

[Kruno]

We live to die. :)
Anyway, like I said above:
We are improving the environment anyway. Greenpeace on the otherhand seem to inflate those numbers to ludicrous amounts and try to make people scared of the fact that we will wipe out everyone in the universe through spending craploads of money on annoying adds. :rolleyes:

What's worse is how the people go about protesting. Disgusting behaviour.
What they stand for, I do not know.
While I respect the environment, I don't respect Greenpeace.

You don't have to like Greenpeace to love the environment. Humans even without Greenpeace's interference are trying to improve the environment.

[LORD-eX-Bu]

Originally posted by Smokey
Sorry no Burger King here in France, used to eat BK in London though and in Oz even though in Melbourne its called Hungry Jacks ;) Used to love the Whopper with cheese.

You haven't lived until you've tasted a double double from In-n-Out. They're the greatest! Heh, if I could mail ya one, I would, but I don't want you to die haha, besides, these burgers are made to be eaten fresh, you'd get it dead and green. ;) :D

[intercede007]

Ahhhh...In and Out Burger.....I almost forgot about that place

On nice saturday's, my dad would take me and his 89 911 Targa out for a ride to Barstow in So. Cal. to check out the mall and eat at In and Out. Hehe..I remember on the ride home, we'd be doing about 85 and there was this dip in the road that used to make me regret that big ole burger I just scarfed down.

Yes..In and Out burger...the only reason I'd go back to Cali ;)

[Mod]

I think Greenpeace should worry more on Amazon forest and raining forests of Africa than nuclear waste and oil companies.

Amazon forest used to have ~8.000.000 square km^2 30 years ago. Today is around ~5.000.000km^2. That is bad, really bad because those trees keeps a lot of CO2 in them, and have a huge genetic pool, good for scientific research. And this destruction is mainly due to the locals that burns trees to make open fields to raise cattle.

Let's realistic, the statistics that says species are being extiguished at a rate superior to the dinosaur extintion( KT mass destruction), is mainly due to the destruction of the environment of species in these places, in which 90% are of insects, spiders and worms.

Notice that the KT event lasted more than 500.000 years after the asteroid impact, and that 10 species were extiguished a year on average, whreas today a year agains the few thousad of today. But look, it's quite obvious that in the first years after asteroid impact, the number were at hundreds of thousands a year. So no reason to think that humans=evil asteroid.

On the other side, although the laws are getting tougher on all coutries, in those less developed countries, there is not much concern in using them against the environment criminals (NO punishment at all). That's why I think Greenpeace should be worried about this forests. Well, there is WWF, but Greenpeace is more powerful and could join forces.


PS.: I don't see any reason to believe that 0,7% or 50 % are extiguished. I think both are radical numbers

PS2: I think life wouldn't be extinguished even with all nukes and and that comet that hitted jupiter. Bacteria are resistent. But we would lose much of the fun of the world without the wild life.

PS3: Count down to PsychoSy post, starting now ! :)