"NV50 canned"...

[wEEt]

...is what TheInquirer says today (http://www.theinq.com/?article=20034). I don't know what's going on with nVIDIA: First the NV48 and now that. What could be the reasons for that?

[Kombatant]

Maybe they decided to start making home appliances? :p

Ok, seriously, IF what the Inq is reporting is true (make that IF bold and with big letters and, and, and...), that could simply mean that they decided to go ahead with the next model (NV55?) and skip the next one. Don't forget; designing an ASIC takes time, and these comments I hear from time to time (OMG nV/ATI panicked because the other company yada yada so it cancelled its product and put out another one) are not exactly very close to reality.

[msxyz]

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41807 :) Rumors, people: ruomors !

[wEEt]

Oops. (snowman)

[bkswaney]

The Inq gets more right than wrong
in the videocard world. Sad but true. ;)

[noko]

Selling more cards using the SLI approach only works well if you have a long generation time. Once SLI catches on, your next new generation cards will sell nearly double in the high and middle end. OEM's selling a SLI setup with one GF6600 now could be very enticing to alot of buyers with the hope later on in upgrading to nearly double the performance when needed or wanted. This also will give buyers something that will last longer for them at a cheaper cost overall, well at least that will be what is sold.

[subbo]

But if a year down the road I can get an ATI product that offers the same or more performance in one card than the SLI setup and the SLI upgrade card still costs 500$ due to lack of availability, good bye nv.

[noko]

Except Nvidia isn't the one having an availability problem are they? ;)

[Superfly]

Except Nvidia isn't the one having an availability problem are they? ;)

true - I've had no issues getting either 6800GT or the brand new 6600GT AGP cards.

got the 6800GT back in July

[Filibuster]

Except Nvidia isn't the one having an availability problem are they? ;)

They seem to be having availability problems with high end PCIe cards as opposed to Ati.
I don't want an Ati card though... :(

[SH64]

This thread should be moved to the hardware rumors mill . nothing is confirmed yet & even if thats true .. i think nVIDIA is working on something BIG .. only time will tell ;)

[mustrum]

Except Nvidia isn't the one having an availability problem are they? ;)
You can't buy a 6800 ULTRA for over 4 months now in austria. Same goes for Germany. They're even rare than the XT PE.
How can you say something? Yes the GT is available but so is the x800 PRO and XT.

[wEEt]

Right, getting a 6800U in Germany is nearly not possible. But I bought my 6800GT at the end of July, that isn't a problem. X800PRO/XT are available aswell, but I haven't seen a XT "PE" that costed less than 750$, so this isn't an option.

And Topic: Maybe WGF is something that makes problems for nVIDIA and they decided to look what ATI does. Or the really plan something big.

[P1x44r]

i think nVIDIA is working on something BIG

You might be right... A four slot videocard which requires 5 power connectors... BIG!
(xmasgrin)

[hectorsm]

A dual core (not dual GPU) would be nice. This should make it cheaper than buying a couple of boards for SLI configuration and still give near 2X performance. Maybe SLI was just a hint of things to come.

[rohit]

wat if they discovered, nv50 wasnt performing any better compared to SLi'd nv40 Ultras

[monly]

wat if they discovered, nv50 wasnt performing any better compared to SLi'd nv40 Ultras

it probably wont....i doubt we will see a 100% performance increase again, so i think if the nv50 can match sli nv40 that would be amazing.

[Filibuster]

Soon they'll have to do dual channel memory on video cards so they aren't held back by the individual chips performance! :)

"NV55 with 72GB/s memory bandwidth" omg.

[JoKeRr]

Soon they'll have to do dual channel memory on video cards so they aren't held back by the individual chips performance! :)

"NV55 with 72GB/s memory bandwidth" omg.

the memory interface for X800 and 6800 series are already 256bit, your dual channel mobo only use 128bit.

[Filibuster]

Yeah I know...I didn't say anything about 128bit vs 256bit. I said dual channel.
Why stop at 256bit? This is the rumor mill! :)

In a DC motherboard each channel is 64 bits wide.
In a DC video card each channel would be 256 bits wide.

[rohit]

-I guess they are gonna redesign nv50, to adjust its performance according to SLi nv40's
-Also, they may b completely redeisgning their chips for support of additional FEATUREs...(like i dunno at the moment).
-Ther culd b plenty of possibilities


OR ELSE IT MAY B ANOTHER "THE INQUIRER" ARTICLE WICH IS TOTALLY UNTRUE!!!!!!

[retsam]

the memory interface for X800 and 6800 series are already 256bit, your dual channel mobo only use 128bit.
isnt all the cards(nv1x-nv4x) memory interface a cross bar type memory interface. so really there isnt a single bus but multiple busses connecting each memory chip that equalls 128bit or 256bit bus width... i dont know, maybe im getting it confused and just invented a new type of memory interface...

[retsam]

ok i knew i wasnt that smart so heres how the meory interface works on graphic cards

http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/radeon9700pro/cross.gif

[Filibuster]

isnt all the cards(nv1x-nv4x) memory interface a cross bar type memory interface. so really there isnt a single bus but multiple busses connecting each memory chip that equalls 128bit or 256bit bus width... i dont know, maybe im getting it confused and just invented a new type of memory interface...

Actually yeah you're right in a way. I forgot about the crossbar thing.
I guess in a video card (where you don't have fixed width memory modules as in a motherboard) it would be easier and better to just make the memory bus 512 bits by adding more chips and expanding the crossbar. Otherwise you'd just have 2 crossbars connecting to the gpu. Pincount is going to really become an issue either way.

So I guess in a sense a modern video card is 8 channel ddr3! (cheers)

[wEEt]

XBit says (http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20041205035620.html), a 24 pipes NV47 is the new card, we gonna see summer 2005.