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dbcalo
12-12-04, 04:00 PM
hi, im looking for a new card. im just tired of all the bull**** my radeon 9600pro gives me and am looking for a new one. i would preferably like to get away from ati. are there any worth while agp cards still out there?

here are my specs as they are now:

radeon 9600pro
amd 2500+
soltek nforce 2 ultra 400
audigy 2 zs

jAkUp
12-12-04, 04:05 PM
What is your budget? I would recommend a 6800GT for around $399... if you wanna save a few bucks you can go with the 6600GT for around $250. Both would be worthy upgrades from your 9600 Pro.

dbcalo
12-12-04, 04:08 PM
What is your budget? I would recommend a 6800GT for around $399... if you wanna save a few bucks you can go with the 6600GT for around $250. Both would be worthy upgrades from your 9600 Pro.

do either of those come in an agp model? i would also prefer to keep it sub $200

Kev1
12-12-04, 04:15 PM
CompUSA is selling the PNY 6800 NU for $199 again all this week. $70 dollars instant rebate and $30 dollar mail in rebate (I hate those).

Not sure how good PNY is, but its definitly a good price for a 6800 card.

dbcalo
12-12-04, 04:34 PM
i guess its down to these two:

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=314100&pfp=BROWSE

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=322698

does anyone know of a review for the pny 6800?

also, does anyone know about how much noise these cards make?

jAkUp
12-12-04, 04:53 PM
Go with the 6800 Vanilla. Great card. PNY's cards are also pretty good, alot better than they used to be.

dbcalo
12-12-04, 04:56 PM
Go with the 6800 Vanilla. Great card. PNY's cards are also pretty good, alot better than they used to be.

would i be able to unlock the extra pipes with the pny?

jAkUp
12-12-04, 05:21 PM
hmmm hard to say... Its pretty much hit and miss when it comes to unlocking the pipes. Maybe somebody else knows?

ifusayso
12-12-04, 05:27 PM
Did they fix the compusa pny 6800 problem. I think I read about that card having missing resistors or compacitors that were laying in the bottom of the package.

I think it had something to do with its unlocking pipeline ability.

dbcalo
12-12-04, 07:03 PM
Did they fix the compusa pny 6800 problem. I think I read about that card having missing resistors or compacitors that were laying in the bottom of the package.

I think it had something to do with its unlocking pipeline ability.

if this happened, wouldn't i be able to send it back and get another one anyway?

nevermind, i guess i wont be getting the 6800 because there are no compusa stores around me, and the deal is an in store only thing. :(

so it looks like i'll be getting a 6600gt. which 6600gt card would you guys recommend?

Edge
12-12-04, 07:37 PM
6600gt is definatly your best bet then. At base speeds it's almost exactly as fast as a 6800nu, the only advantage the 6800nu has is that you *might* be able to unlock extra pipes on it (and don't count on that). AGP versions of the 6600gt are around $220 retail.

dbcalo
12-12-04, 07:53 PM
what about the regular 6600? is it any good?

dbcalo
12-12-04, 08:04 PM
is the higher price of the agp version just because it came out after the pci-e version? or is there some other reason?

CaptNKILL
12-12-04, 08:04 PM
Id say a 6600 is probably similar to 9600 Pro performance, but im not sure.

Zetto
12-12-04, 08:07 PM
hehe, 6600gt beats 9800xt hands down :D Under $200 budget, it's best value for your money.

BTW, PNY has no problems with quality, I own(ed) PNY 6800gt, it's a beast! As for missing capacitors, it has been determined that the faults was with the packaging which applied too much pressure to that spot on the card - read the thread on Hardforum, they explored the issue in great detail

dbcalo
12-12-04, 08:17 PM
this review seems helpful: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2295&p=15

does anyone know if the zalman coolers will fit on one of these?

jAkUp
12-12-04, 10:43 PM
Get a VGA Silencer for it :) Very quiet, and cools very well, this baby can cool off my 6800 Ultra like a fridge ;)

http://www.systemcooling.com/images/reviews/Heatsinks/NV_Silencer5/mounted1_lg.jpg

http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx?location=3&var1=146&var2=0

saturnotaku
12-12-04, 10:46 PM
BTW, PNY has no problems with quality, I own(ed) PNY 6800gt, it's a beast!

That had better be true. (mikec) (snowcool)

SH64
12-12-04, 10:48 PM
My vote would go for the 6600GT for these reasons :
1) its nealry at your price range
2) Its a worthy upgrade from your 9600Pro
3) It should keep up very good with your CPU .
& it has no competetion from ATi to make you worried about choosing the right thing .

bkswaney
12-12-04, 10:56 PM
I had a PNY 5800Ultra and it was a great card.
It's still kicking today as a matter of fact. :)

I just like BFG though. ;)

dbcalo
12-12-04, 10:58 PM
does the 6600gt run hot enough so that it requires an active cooling solution?

Rytr
12-12-04, 11:00 PM
Id say a 6600 is probably similar to 9600 Pro performance, but im not sure.

I would actually give it more credit. Seems faster to me than my 9600xt although the 6600 I am running is PCI-e. Just finished HL2 running 1280x1024, 2xAA, 4xAF at default clocks. Played very well with just two instances of slowdowns at specific points in the game which appear to be game related bugs.

SH64
12-12-04, 11:07 PM
does the 6600gt run hot enough so that it requires an active cooling solution?

I dont think so , thats only for hardcore overclockers a better cooling solution like the AC NV5 would be recommended .

dbcalo
12-12-04, 11:15 PM
I dont think so , thats only for hardcore overclockers a better cooling solution like the AC NV5 would be recommended .

are there any other aftermarket coolers for the 6600gt that work well?

also, does the card being agp affect its performance? if so, how much faster would a pci-express 6600gt be?

saturnotaku
12-12-04, 11:32 PM
if so, how much faster would a pci-express 6600gt be?

Not enough that you would notice. A PCI-Express 6600 GT would only be really useful if you were planning on doing an SLI setup, where 2 of those cards would (probably) be on par with a single 6800 GT.