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maverik
12-26-04, 08:04 AM
i finally collected money for a new video card, and i love the 6800 lineup.
i was looking for this xfx 6800 card.now there are 3 more cards to choose from.
innovision inno3d 6800, inno3d 6800 premium coolviva etc. and surprisingly some asus 6800gt 128mb falls in the same price, a little higher.
how is the asus card? i already spotted some people having problems with in, i saw while posting.

i wont go for the xfx, i want either the 6800 premium inno3d one, or the 6800gt.
my question is which one shld i go for?

is a 6800gt good with 128mb ram, is the ram ddr3 or regular.?
any information will be helpfull.

my system is "p4 2.8ht prescott, intel 865gbf mboard, 512mb ram hynix, 80gb harddisk, innovision 3d 5200 128mb"

MUYA
12-26-04, 08:09 AM
This should help you.

http://www.ixbt-labs.com/articles2/gffx/nv40-11.html

Scott@Bjorn3D
12-26-04, 10:13 AM
If you want a GT then buy a GT!! All vendors from over seas are now doing the screw the end user thing. You see a 6800GT at a good price and buy to and find you have been ripped. They always have the dumb american approach.

Study before you buy, mystaff and I always do that before we submit a review.

maverik
12-26-04, 11:12 AM
i saw the review. i really liked the asus 128mb 6800 gt, but the cooler does not cover the ram. i am still confused, about what should i buy. i cannot afford the 6800gt with 256mb ram, its around 110 us dollars more expensive.
so i am stuck with these two
innovision inno3d 6800 premium cool.
asus 6800 gt 128mb. v9999gt
so my final question is which one of the above.

my system is p4 2.8e ht prescott, inno3d 5200 128mb ddr ram. 512mb ddr ram hynix, 80 gb samsung hard disk, 17" samsung syncmaster 773's, intel 865 gbf mboard.

keith33
12-26-04, 11:43 AM
Asus cards are CRAP! They sometimes don't even work unless you use their enhanced drivers (which they barely ever release). I've never been able to overclock one past 20mhz. Also read Tha_Enclave's post about his BSOD 6800GT Asus card. Also you need to use that awful SmartDoctor software for Auto Overclocking as well as Temperature Reading (yes they took it out of the nvidia menu). Also, it's nearly impossible to find a BIOS for this card should you need to upgrade because only Asus makes them! And yes, the lack of ramsinks scares me.

Don't think this a flamer post, but these are the experiences I've had and heard about with Asus cards. Also I'm never buying an Asus mobo again that won't let me overclock without using their own "Auto" settings :@

rohit
12-27-04, 04:52 AM
the 6800gt chip is wat matters, it will perform better than any non-ulta havin 128mb ddr. i'd recommend the ASUS 68GT.
so asus 68GT is good, if u r gettin in the same price range as the regular 6800. or the inno3d 6800 premium.
the choice is urs.
EDIT: piece of advice, dont buy xfx.

maverik
12-28-04, 01:32 AM
i read a lot of negative reviews about asus cards, speacially with the smart doctor software. and even keith suggested, lack of heatsink covering the ram is bad.
i'll buy the innovision 6800 premium. its cheeper, and hopefully good.
Thank you everyone.

Dazz
12-28-04, 07:31 AM
Got a ASUS 6800GE overclocks great smark doctor is not so great unless you like
to monitor the memory and GPU temps and reduce fan speed.

My card does 350/1Ghz defualt now doing 450/1.2GHz with stock cooling.
No too shabby.

borntosoul
12-28-04, 07:59 AM
i own one of these cards and i will say it runs great, i only paid $50 aus more than the standard 6800. i find that its better suited at running lower res and using its power pushing shaders, its not really suited for maxing out settings in ultra high res and aa+af(slower mem is holding it back here), thats what the 256 mb version is much better at doing. highly recommended if you want something to keep you happy 'till you upgrade to PCI-E killer card....

T.h.o.m.a.s.
12-28-04, 08:02 AM
indeed i have the same card
has 256DDR , and runs stable @ 440/1200
with everything unlocked (rudolf)

Salamandar
12-28-04, 09:47 AM
Asus are Over rated, end of the story. (mikec)

T.h.o.m.a.s.
12-28-04, 01:30 PM
maybe you had a bad xp with asus
some folks have some don't
it's a neverending story

PeterJensen
12-28-04, 01:51 PM
keith33 : you my freind dont now what the **** you are talking about. Tace that as a fact.

Lemur.fi
12-28-04, 02:57 PM
My Asus V9999GT/TD/P/128M/A has been great. It is a bit faster than normal 6800 so paying a bit more is ok.

I run it at stock frequencys (350/700) and the fan is pretty much silent at slower speeds. The dynamic fan control with SmartDoctor did not work too good but have had no problems when I use "manual mode" and fan power at 33%.

PS. When I bought mine, it was actually cheaper than any normal 6800. :naughty:

borntosoul
12-29-04, 10:10 AM
by the way there is nothing wrong with asus cards, some people really need to get a better understanding of computer parts before they start bagging a company......ive had lost of asus cards and leadtek and to me theyre both great. asus made a great card in the 6800gt128.

keith33
12-29-04, 11:14 AM
keith33 : you my freind dont now what the **** you are talking about. Tace that as a fact.

Please elaborate on that. I shared my previous experiences with Asus cards, and after 4 of them, I haven't had a single good one. My friend has the V9999GT and he can't run 3dmark 3 times without getting artifacts. You do need smartdoctor for dynamic overclocking, and in most cases with Asus cards you need to use their own enhanced display driver to do so. There won't be a lot of BIOS updates because only Asus makes this GT. These are facts, just like your blatant stupidity. On that note my P4P800 has been a nightmare to overclock.

pharaohs
12-29-04, 12:47 PM
just a piece of advice... before buying a 6800 series vcard... upgrade first your memory to 1gig of ram...


512mb ram + 6800 series vcard = fast graphics & frequent stuttering in games...

1gig ram + 6800 series vcard = fast & fluid(zero stuttering) graphics in games...

...i have a kingmax 2x256mb ddr400 ram... then i borrowed additional 512mb ram(generic) from my friend... so that i can test my system performance using 1gig ram...the results...

....fluid gameplay in farcry, zero stutter, with all graphics detail settings to max....
....no more 1/2 second suttering in nfsu2...

....all maxed out graphics settings in painkiller booh 1280x1024... very smooth gameplay.. :)

...i'm definitely going to buy additional 512mb of ram next year...
...i'll postpone my processor upgrade for the mean time... :)

U R right,My machine is 6600GT + 512M DDR ,it oftent stuttered in FARCRY and HL2.So i think i would buy one more 512M of ram next year too.

Spyke
12-29-04, 01:52 PM
I never owned asus video cards, but I will only buy asus mainboards. :)

rohit
12-30-04, 04:40 AM
Asus are Over rated, end of the story. (mikec)

ASUS has earned its reputation over the years of producing Good video cards, and extremely good motherboards. their other products like the cd-rw etc, also excellent
Their P4Pxxx series rock. many of their products like p4p800e deluxe have/had no competition (When it was launched). other companies seem to follow its trend.
also ASUS Boards were the reputed best overclokers, compared to MSI, ABIT,GIGABYTE..etc. ASUS was the first comapany to bundle temperature softwares, utilities etc. along with grafic cards. (from geforce3 times)
i think ASUS deserves to be over-rated!
if u go to see many of the review sites like anandtech, x-bit labs, digit-life, techtree, etc have rated ASUS over the other manufacturers.
ASUS definitely has the upper-edge over its competition.
coming back to the topic, V9999GT is good. Its the 6800GT chip that matters.
128mb ddr ram is a bad thing, also ram is not covered by the HSF, maybe it doesnt require that much cooling. Over the years ASUS's cooling system has been better than the competiton, they wont wanna blow it all up all like that.
ASUS v9999GT 128mb ddr is a great card, intended for buyers with a lower budget, but wanting a 68GT!
Also the inno3d card is good. So it was solely that guyz descision.

MX/MX400
12-30-04, 05:04 AM
just a piece of advice... before buying a 6800 series vcard... upgrade first your memory to 1gig of ram...


512mb ram + 6800 series vcard = fast graphics & frequent stuttering in games...

1gig ram + 6800 series vcard = fast & fluid(zero stuttering) graphics in games...

...i have a kingmax 2x256mb ddr400 ram... then i borrowed additional 512mb ram(generic) from my friend... so that i can test my system performance using 1gig ram...the results...

....fluid gameplay in farcry, zero stutter, with all graphics detail settings to max....
....no more 1/2 second suttering in nfsu2...

....all maxed out graphics settings in painkiller booh 1280x1024... very smooth gameplay.. :)

...i'm definitely going to buy additional 512mb of ram next year...
...i'll postpone my processor upgrade for the mean time... :)

I have a full gig of RAM and I still got stuttering in HL2 and pauses in NFSU2 (when opening in game menus and stuff). Maybe those games don't like P4s? :(

pharaohs
12-30-04, 07:06 AM
I have a full gig of RAM and I still got stuttering in HL2 and pauses in NFSU2 (when opening in game menus and stuff). Maybe those games don't like P4s? :(

Try to change the ghraphic drivers.

Lfctony
12-30-04, 07:21 AM
No problems here with 3 Asus motherboards and a 9999GE now. My secondary system bears a P4P800 mobo and I'm able to run my 2.4@3.3 on air. :)

Marcos
12-30-04, 07:33 AM
I like asus mobo, but their gpu cards are strange and mysterious to me. They release Gt's with like 9 1/2 pipes and 3/4th of a vertex shader with a 500 mhz core that 700 mhz "CCR" ram. why cant they just lay down a standard layout.

/what time is it?

Lemur.fi
12-30-04, 01:28 PM
A card with slower memory is really not that complicated.

glObalist
12-30-04, 05:36 PM
I like asus mobo, but their gpu cards are strange and mysterious to me. They release Gt's with like 9 1/2 pipes and 3/4th of a vertex shader with a 500 mhz core that 700 mhz "CCR" ram. why cant they just lay down a standard layout.

/what time is it?

16/6 here with my ASUS V9999GT/TD 128MB, stock:)