Will Nvidia continue with AGP?

[wrugoin]

With all the rumors going around about the NV48 and NV50, I'm wondering if Nvidia plans to continue with AGP or will the next gen. cards be exclusivly PCI-e? Or will we see something similar to the 6600GT where it's out in PCI-e for a month or so and then bridged to AGP later on?

[UclaBob]

With all the rumors going around about the NV48 and NV50, I'm wondering if Nvidia plans to continue with AGP or will the next gen. cards be exclusivly PCI-e? Or will we see something similar to the 6600GT where it's out in PCI-e for a month or so and then bridged to AGP later on?

I wouldn't hold my breath.

Bob

[r2d2d3d4d5]

I think it will come down to marked demand. Lots of AGP users still around=new AGP cards.

I hope it doesn't just come down to what the big PC sellers, like Dell, want to do.

There will probably be at least one or two generations where ATI/nVidia just make budget AGP cards. Keeping the high end products for PCI-E. By then most of the users that pay for high end cards should have moved to PCI-E boards.

[MUYA]

Course u will market percentage in terms of AGP mobo owners will dictate AGP versions of cards. Not everybody has the money stashed for a pci express mobo and pci express card.

[rewt]

I was looking on newegg and the PCI-express cards actually seem to be cheaper (the 6600's anyway). It's the motherboards that are more expensive.

[CaptNKILL]

I was looking on newegg and the PCI-express cards actually seem to be cheaper (the 6600's anyway). It's the motherboards that are more expensive.
Heh, I dont think Id settle for a 6600GT if I bought a PCI-E motherboard. I dont think its going to catch on for a while because of the premium people have to pay to even move over to PCI-E at all. $200+ for a motherboard, then you are forced to pay hundreds more for a PCI-E version of a 6800GT or Ultra, and thats IF you can even find them.

I think thats just way too much money for most people to consider spending all at once. Someone who is going "next gen" with their system probably is going to go with at least a 3200+ and an Nforce 4. Unless you buy an underpowered video card (such as a 6600GT or even a 6800 in PCI-E) right now you are looking at over $1000 just for 3 components. Where as an AGP system that would perform almost identically would cost you under $700. Add to that the cost of RAM, a PSU (dont you need a more expensive PSU for PCI-E as well? I heard this somewhere), sound card, possibly speakers (since the loss of soundstorm renders many sound systems sub-par for gaming)...

Some people do have that kind of money and dont mind spending it... but PCI-E is just too big of an investment right now. I give it another year or two before most can even consider it. The prices of PCI-E compatible hardware (that are up to speed with the rest of a high-end system) have to come down before these things take over the market.

[Cota]

With all the rumors going around about the NV48 and NV50, I'm wondering if Nvidia plans to continue with AGP or will the next gen. cards be exclusivly PCI-e? Or will we see something similar to the 6600GT where it's out in PCI-e for a month or so and then bridged to AGP later on?

You can count on nvidia releasing AGP cards for at least a year.

[Da Alians]

u know..there are still pci graphics cards floating around

[CaptNKILL]

u know..there are still pci graphics cards floating around
Yeah and thats really amazing because AGP and PCI slots can actually be on the same board (where PCI-E as an either\or situation). If they havent totaly cut off PCI graphics, then theres no way they are going to cut off AGP this soon... we will probably still have mid-low end AGP cards being produced in 5 years or more.

[coldpower27]

That's good to know, they still have to replace cards in those old comps with AGP graphics slots.

[bkswaney]

I think u will see both ATI and Nvidia keep making
AGP cards for at least 12 more months.
99% of all PC's out there r AGP.
Maybe 1% are PCI-E.
Do the math. :)

[r2d2d3d4d5]

u know..there are still pci graphics cards floating around

A lot of server boards don't have AGP slots (although they do often have onboard video). Also people who need lots of displays often get PCI cards to use together with their AGP card.

[ynnek]

for the OEM market, there really isn't much of a premium, if any at all on going to PCI-E though. And if you notice, they are all PCIe now.. and the OEM's sell the biggest # of computers.. if anything, "we" are the niche users.

I'm guessing, maybe, they may release the next gen of cards as natie PCI-e, the bridge some over to AGP, since there's still going to be alot of AGP computers in 2005..

but I seriously doubt they'll continue doing that for the next get after that.. They'll still be AGP cards available probably, but more for budget..

[Son Goku]

Probably for another generation (in terms of computer owners) there will be AGP cards around. Say 1-2 years. I'd have to look up stats on how often the average person upgrades their computer, but 2 years seems about right.

People who just bought a new computer which had AGP, would of course not be looking to upgrade their entire system right away... They might be willing to spend $400 on a gfx card before they'd be ready to go out and spend $1,500-$2,500 for another decent complete systems replacement.

[Kojiro]

Like someone mentioned. PCI graphis cards are still being made. The vast magority of computers have AGP. The ones that don't, well don't have the CPU power ( I am tring to nulify the word speed since it does not entirely reflect CPU performance.) to run advanced games. Thus only low-end cards have PCI versions. I suspect that when this generation of video cards are considered low-end, will PCI-e be the dominant graphics interface. But even then AGP 8x card will be still made. This I beleive, will alow AGP to stay around for quite some time.

[Kev1]

If you have decent ram and PS, by my calculations you can switch to NForce 4 and 6600GT PCIe for about $500 dollars:

NForce 4 (Not SLI): $130 to $150
A64 300+: $150 or so
GeForce 6600GT PCIe: $180-$200

If need PS that raises to maybe $100 for a really good one, although are some nice 550W 35amp on 12v rail ones for $65.

$500-$600 isnt too bad for big leap in performance. If wait till feb or march prices most likely will be lower. If your a budget gamer (like me), I think NForce4 and 6600GT PCIe would be awesome upgrade (xmasmile)

[1337_Like_ThaT]

I give AGP 1 & 1/2 years till it actually stops being mainstream, then it will eventually drop down like what PCI video cards are today. PCI cards will probably never die out, for crying out loud, quiet a few Dell machines currently being made still have no AGP Slot!!!!!!1111 So for the lamers who wanna game with their Dell 4500b9s or wutever model they own, their stuck with gold o' PCI>!! wo0t

[CDsDontBurn]

I give AGP 1 & 1/2 years till it actually stops being mainstream, then it will eventually drop down like what PCI video cards are today. PCI cards will probably never die out, for crying out loud, quiet a few Dell machines currently being made still have no AGP Slot!!!!!!1111 So for the lamers who wanna game with their Dell 4500b9s or wutever model they own, their stuck with gold o' PCI>!! wo0t

DELLs are POSes anyways......any body who would own one is lame.

[ynnek]

yes, but I've seen plenty of other computers with worse corners built that cost even more than a comparable Dell.

Only the low low end computers of Dell didn't haev AGP slots btw.

Well, actually, I don't think any of the other models have AGP slots either now.. cause they are all PCIe.

If you play the pricing game right, you can get a pretty good deal off Dell.. as long as your not planning to OC.

[superklye]

DELLs are POSes anyways......any body who would own one is lame.
What the hell are you talking about? Build me a P4 2.4GHz w/256MB RAM and a 40GB hard drive with a 15" LCD for $350.

My mom does word processing and writes emails (she doesn't really go on the web because she doesn't really know how to. She goes to Amazon and that's about it), so why the hell would she need an Alienware or anything equally ridiculous?