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anzak
01-10-05, 10:36 PM
Believe it or not this is good news folks. This means that our Geforce 6800s and Radeon X800s won't be obsolete any time soon!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20050110034348.html

Salamandar
01-10-05, 10:45 PM
Cool, which means more time for us to get ready for PCI-E.
To be hoonest with you I don't see any reason to go PCI-E these days not even SLI.
Hope SLI will also be available with the next Generation Nvidia cards.

ChrisRay
01-10-05, 11:14 PM
Believe it or not this is good news folks. This means that our Geforce 6800s and Radeon X800s won't be obsolete any time soon!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20050110034348.html

Obsolete by new hardware or obsolete by being acceptable in performance? :wtf:

stncttr908
01-10-05, 11:18 PM
Gee, I wonder if people will get their X800XT PE's they preordered back in September by the end of 2005.

anzak
01-10-05, 11:31 PM
Obsolete by new hardware or obsolete by being acceptable in performance? :wtf:

Both really. Since software developers only develop for the current hardware it would slow down the rate of graphics improvements (in theory).

SH64
01-10-05, 11:57 PM
Good news for the SLI owners ;)

bkswaney
01-11-05, 12:02 AM
Good read. :)

I also enjoyed this one.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dual-core.html

MUYA
01-11-05, 12:12 AM
I quite like the idea of a stable period with no new stuff being thrown in. At least the developer's platform is stable (in terms SM 3.0 to dx7 class) and that can be only a good thing as it's less things for games dev to worry about..compatibilty problems using the latest dx9 etc and user base who still have older hardware.

MUYA
01-11-05, 12:14 AM
Ah also means, IHV's are harnessing their effortz to speed bump their products probably achieving higher bumps than before?

MX/MX400
01-11-05, 12:17 AM
Awesome! I kinda hope this is a sign of the direction both nVidia and ATI will take in the future... the 6-month cycle thing can put a beating on the wallet :(

j0j081
01-11-05, 12:22 AM
i think ati and nvidia should take the year off after such hard work this year trying to ownage each other.

ChrisRay
01-11-05, 12:22 AM
Both really. Since software developers only develop for the current hardware it would slow down the rate of graphics improvements (in theory).


Just out of curioisity. Do you believe the 9800 Pro is an obsolete piece of hardware?

Chris.

XP_GUN
01-11-05, 12:24 AM
looks like ill have money this summer for the jump to SLI and a AMD 64 :D

anzak
01-11-05, 12:29 AM
Just out of curioisity. Do you believe the 9800 Pro is an obsolete piece of hardware?

Chris.

Not even close. Obsolete was a bad choice of words. I was just saying that the cards we just purchased will stay in near the top for some time. At least till the end of 2005.

SH64
01-11-05, 12:30 AM
Awesome! I kinda hope this is a sign of the direction both nVidia and ATI will take in the future... the 6-month cycle thing can put a beating on the wallet :(

Yep & those are worrying about how fast they have to transit to PCI-E wont need to worry anymore if that report is correct .
though ATi still may release the R520 which will 100% be PCI-E i rekon & theres the NV47 rumor too which could come in either AGP or PCI-E .
i think a NV40 refresh at least is must-be or nvidia will lose the high-end battle in the long run if ATi sucessfully deliverd thier X800XL /X850-PE products in time .
not everyone can afford SLI & the upcoming games seems to be more GPU power demanding which will make the NV40/45 not sufficent enough to handle at high-res as it should do .

jAkUp
01-11-05, 01:10 AM
Good thing :) I was hoping not to upgrade until 2006.. but you know me.. hehe

$n][pErMan
01-11-05, 01:35 AM
Yay .... this will be the first time my card has been on the top for more than a few months! :D Means my only upgrade will be to 64bit this summer.

AthlonXP1800
01-11-05, 02:20 AM
Gee, I wonder if people will get their X800XT PE's they preordered back in September by the end of 2005.

No it wont, ATI will discontinue production top end X800 XT PE after R520 launch, they did the same thing with top end 9800 XT after R420 launch last year.

YOGIx213
01-11-05, 02:25 AM
Whew, glad to hear this will last for a bit longer. I don't plan to upgrade for a while anyway, but it's good to hear that my card will still be alright for at least another year.

ChrisRay
01-11-05, 04:28 AM
Not even close. Obsolete was a bad choice of words. I was just saying that the cards we just purchased will stay in near the top for some time. At least till the end of 2005.


Was wondering. My 9800 Pro in my second rig is handling everything I throw at it at 1024x768 and 4xAA. With the exception of Doom 3 anyway. Doom 3 is the single most demanding game I have played thus far. :eek:

jAkUp
01-11-05, 04:36 AM
Everquest 2 isnt more demanding than doom 3?

ChrisRay
01-11-05, 04:40 AM
Everquest 2 isnt more demanding than doom 3?

Everquest 2 has a lot of problems. But I can still play EQ 2 @ 4xAA/16xAF at balanced settings @ 1024x768 on my 9800 Pro and get around 20-40 FPS on average at medium textures and my own custom settings.

But with the memory leak and constant crashing on ATI hardware, Its like comparing apples to oranges, Also EQ 2 is dynamic so its very difficult to determine GPU bottlenecking from CPU/Memory bottlenecking. Problem is. You can be running at super high frame rates in some areas. Then chug down and have HD trashing galore. And Over time the frame rates just deteriorate due to the memory leak. At least Doom 3 is fairly consistent. But yes I felt my 9800 Pro did extremely well in EQ 2.

BladeRunner
01-11-05, 05:47 AM
Not very keen on this "I've got a top card so I'm happy its standing still" attitude. I think its not so much a choice, as more a fact they just can't seem to produce these top end cards in any significant volume, At least you can't buy them. Almost 6 months in, and Ultra's are still impossible to get in the UK at least, and 6800Gt's almost as rare atm. X800 XT PE is about more now but not seen any 850's yet.

Decimator
01-11-05, 06:34 AM
I wasn't planning any graphics cards upgrades this year anyway, but I am wondering how the Xbox 2 (which is supposed to be out at the end of this year) is going to stack up against my current rig, seeing as how it'll have an R520 based GPU in it.

aAv7
01-11-05, 10:08 AM
Maybe im reading differently, but this article said this spring would see the r520 and nv47....that doesnt sound like a year without upgrades. Furthermore, all of it will be pci-e, even the nv47-agp is done :thumbdwn:

I dont mind upgrades, they hurt the wallet but help the medium move forward. It's a great hobby and I've been prepared to upgrade yearly. I dont want to be stuck playing dx8 and 9 games for the next 3 years :mad: It takes at LEAST 6 months for a game to come out with the advanced hardware features a new card has....look at the 9700 pro/dx9 fiasco and nv40/sm3.0...this means if longhorn and advanced hardware wont show till late 05-games wont be moving forward till mid 06.....thats :eek: for pc. xBOX 2 HAS MORE GOING FOR IT..I DONT BUY THIS... ;)