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monly
01-22-05, 05:21 AM
hi again everyone, i use my pc mainly for music i listen to....but im looking for somthing a little more powerful. I got about 500-600 to spend on a stereo system because my current stereo is a little underpowered at only 250 watts. Im wondering if anyone can give me some links to some good products for my money. bass is a must, and i will be thankful for any good suggestions.

Raptorman
01-22-05, 09:44 AM
hi again everyone, i use my pc mainly for music i listen to....but im looking for somthing a little more powerful. I got about 500-600 to spend on a stereo system because my current stereo is a little underpowered at only 250 watts. Im wondering if anyone can give me some links to some good products for my money. bass is a must, and i will be thankful for any good suggestions.

www.crutchfield.com

Great place

Aurthus
01-22-05, 01:46 PM
Crutchfield is a great place for home and mainly car stereo equipment. I have used them when i lived in VA for car stuff but being a musician.. all i can say is for home try www.musiciansfriend.com Check out some of there live gear ect.. and forget about wattage, with Pa gear it doesnt mean all that much. Music equip company's dont use consumer buzzwords like the peak watts u see with home stereo stuff. a 100 watt powered mixer with some 12's will put to shame any 400-500 watt home stereo system.
Trust me :)

oh and i've used musicians friend ALOT.. i've probably got around $15k worth of equip between me and my father from there...


::Edit::
I realized that non musicians may be confused looking at this stuff.. so this is a pa mixer i own that does well, I'm not sure of the speakers with this package though becouse i dont own them as i have 4 12" crates 2 10" jensens and 4 8" jensens. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=live/s=packaged/search/detail/base_pid/630544/

$699 on sale which is around 300-400 pounds for u i think.

monly
01-23-05, 06:14 AM
Thanks for the replys guys...... iam looking at these speakers (http://www.polkaudio.com/home/specs.php?category=3&speaker=376). Can any of you audio people help me find an amp to suit these speakers well please, and anything else i might need. As you can tell i am completely new to this kinda system :o but i really enjoy music. thanks again.

LiquidX
01-23-05, 11:20 AM
First up for for a receiver I recommend a Yamaha, Denon or even Panason/Technics. I like Sony but I dont think there quaility matches there price. Also back in the day I would be willing to drop close to $1000 on a receiver but not anymore. Quality as improved so much over the last few years that you can get a system for $300-$400 on par with the most expensive brands.

This Yamaha specs are great. Over 600 watts with almost every spec and imput imaginable.
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/HTIB/HTR5660.htm
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/prod_images/htr5760.jpg

Most of the same features with a little more juice you will never use if your sane.
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/HTIB/HTR5790.htm
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/prod_images/htr5790.jpg

If you want to go where the quality is almost untouched you may want to take a look at Marantz or even Denon.
Take a look at this Denon..
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-eKyDLhQctpX/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=10420&I=033AV1905B


Thanks for the replys guys...... iam looking at these speakers (http://www.polkaudio.com/home/specs.php?category=3&speaker=376). Can any of you audio people help me find an amp to suit these speakers well please, and anything else i might need. As you can tell i am completely new to this kinda system :o but i really enjoy music. thanks again.

Polk is great but being that your willing to spend alot I would also take a look at some Cerwin Vega speakers. They make the best loud speakers IMO and everything they produce is quality. Always get quality speakers. Do this and they can compliment the most cheap amp or receiver you can buy.

http://www.cerwinvega.com/products/images/e_715_180x290.jpg

http://www.cerwinvega.com/products/homeaudiovideo/index.html



Also what specs are you interested in? Is this just for music are also a HT? Also is the 500-600 to spend on everything or each component? I listed some expensive parts because I was not sure.

monly
01-23-05, 12:29 PM
Thank you to the previous poster... about the money, i was thinking maybe 600 for the speakers, and maybe 1300 overall for the amp, cd player speakers........whatever else is needed.not too much really but its all i can afford at 17. oh and btw this wont be used for HT just music.....already have a panasonic HT system.

LiquidX
01-23-05, 02:21 PM
Thank you to the previous poster... about the money, i was thinking maybe 600 for the speakers, and maybe 1300 overall for the amp, cd player speakers........whatever else is needed.not too much really but its all i can afford at 17. oh and btw this wont be used for HT just music.....already have a panasonic HT system.

Well for 17 you have a budget bigger than many audiophiles and a man that wants is music settup separate from is HT I can respect while at the same time envy.

I am not into amps and 2-channel music only settups so I cant help much but I would look at this Denon but Harman Kardon and Yamaha also makes some of the best music receivers/amps you can get.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-QYrFPegwRmL/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=033DRA685&id=morephotos&a=&s=0&cc=01&g=10410#morephotos

Equipment like I recommend you go to a store and listen to them in person and once your pretty sure what you want buy it off the web being that it is most times cheaper.

monly
01-23-05, 03:26 PM
cool.....that receiver you linked too is rated at 100 watts x 2....the speakers im thinking of getting can handle 275 watts per channel..... will this really deliver enough power to the speakers? im having trouble finding a receiver that can deliver more than 100 watts per channel in stereo:(

LiquidX
01-23-05, 03:43 PM
cool.....that receiver you linked too is rated at 100 watts x 2....the speakers im thinking of getting can handle 275 watts per channel..... will this really deliver enough power to the speakers? im having trouble finding a receiver that can deliver more than 100 watts per channel in stereo:(

I doubt you will find a receiver that goes past 100 watts per channel in your price range. Marantz makes them but there way past your budget. Also dont let a receiver watt output fool you, one with lower output can beat the higher if it has better quality parts. 100 watts per channel is more than enough and I doubt you will even turn the knob past half if you get something quality. If it is nothing but pure power you want you may want to look into some pro-DJ amps.

http://www.geminidj.com/cgi-bin/products2.cgi?template=amplifiers&category=power_amplifiers

monly
01-23-05, 04:02 PM
thanks again my son.......with that being the case i will settle for the 100 watt receiever then....now comes cd player selection :confused: btw gonna sound like a total noob with this stuff, but whats the difference between an amp and a receiver...they do the same thing no? :o

avatar4938
01-24-05, 11:28 AM
A receiver is a all-in-one package where as a amp only amplifies a processed signal. A receiver is more commoningly used because it handles everything and can take multiple inputs. With an amp you would need a pre-amp if you wanted to hook up multiple inputs to the same speakers or do any processing like DTS or Dolby Pro Logic. If you were only using the stereo to come out of a cd player and only wanted stereo sound (no fake surround) you can get by with just an amp. So it would be cd player -> amp -> speakers. Amps are also more commonly 2 channel. High-end amps can be monoblocks and you can get multiple channel amps but they aren't as common. There is also an integrated amp which combines the amp and pre-amp in one but you lose the radio tuner that you would get with the receiver. If any of that makes sense.

A computer analogy would be having the receiver be the whole computer with the amp being the sound card and the processor being the pre-amp. You can do straight redbook audio from the cd player to the sound card and bypass the processor but good luck playing a mp3 without it.

LiquidX
01-24-05, 03:56 PM
A receiver is a all-in-one package where as a amp only amplifies a processed signal. A receiver is more commoningly used because it handles everything and can take multiple inputs. With an amp you would need a pre-amp if you wanted to hook up multiple inputs to the same speakers or do any processing like DTS or Dolby Pro Logic. If you were only using the stereo to come out of a cd player and only wanted stereo sound (no fake surround) you can get by with just an amp. So it would be cd player -> amp -> speakers. Amps are also more commonly 2 channel. High-end amps can be monoblocks and you can get multiple channel amps but they aren't as common. There is also an integrated amp which combines the amp and pre-amp in one but you lose the radio tuner that you would get with the receiver. If any of that makes sense.

A computer analogy would be having the receiver be the whole computer with the amp being the sound card and the processor being the pre-amp. You can do straight redbook audio from the cd player to the sound card and bypass the processor but good luck playing a mp3 without it.

Basically make sure you know what a amp is before you buy one. He is right it is not like receiver where you can hook up everything out of the box and listen to your favorite FM station.