Zarqawi quotes

[evilchris]

Democracy is also based on the right to choose your religion, and that is against the rule of God


http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/23/iraq.main/index.html


Religious zealot/moron. I hope he dies miserably.

[netviper13]

Yeah that guy is nuts...I would say he has long outlived his purpose on this planet.

[Ninjaman09]

I daresay the man never had any useful purpose.

A miserable death would be too good for this pile of vermin. Keep him alive and in perpetual pain until his body can't handle it anymore. I'll be watching and laughing.

[evilchris]

I daresay the man never had any useful purpose.

A miserable death would be too good for this pile of vermin. Keep him alive and in perpetual pain until his body can't handle it anymore. I'll be watching and laughing.

Not with liberals around. He'll receive a world class lawyer, 3 hot meals a day, a gym, television, the works! Maybe he'll even be aquitted and the guys who captured him will go to prison for "abuse"!

[Yonkers]

I daresay the man never had any useful purpose.
He was created for a purpose but he chose to not fullfill it.

[Drumphil]

Not with liberals around. He'll receive a world class lawyer, 3 hot meals a day, a gym, television, the works!

some how I doubt that. however he might be given a lawyer.. damn, that'd be terrible, after all, the legal processes we have are over rated anyway, and should be done away with all together. How on earth did we ever end up with western legal systems anyway, as they are ovbiously inferior to the middle eastern idea of justice. Yeah, in fact lest just kill him now, and make certain that everyone understands the type of justice they will live under if they submit to more western ways of doing things. Maybee a few of Saddams ideas weren't so bad after all.

Maybe he'll even be aquitted and the guys who captured him will go to prison for "abuse"!

Well, if no evidence is produced against him, and he is abused that could happen, but that would be our fault for not producing evidence and abusing him. The simple answer is to present the evidence proving the case against him, and not abuse him in the mean time!! (yeah, real rocket science I know) Oh no, how terrible, we couldn't have that.

Oh right, I know what problem you will have with that!! Liberals will prevent him from being found guilty (somehow using their telepathic powers or something). Sigh, the only time liberals have a problem with things like this is when a fair trial doesn't occur, or if it does, when no evidence is produced showing the guilt of the person involved. Are you worried that there is no evidence to show the guilt of this man?? I can't see that being a problem.

[Yonkers]

Well, if no evidence is produced against him, and he is abused that could happen, but that would be our fault wouldn't it? The simple answer is to present the evidence proving the case against him, and not abuse him in the mean time. Oh no, how terrible, we couldn't have that.
How about we shoot him on the spot?

[Drumphil]

Isn't that sort of behaviour what we use to use as examples of how bad Saddam is, and why he needed to be removed from power.

edit: lol, I edited the above post after you quoted me.

[bknblk]

So, now you just come on and try to play devil's advocate for people like Zarqawi? You are such a loser. When arguing the importance of Due Process, it might behoove you to use a human being as an example rather than an animal with a history of making videos of himself severing the heads of westerners and Iraqis. Guilty as charged.

[Drumphil]

So, now you just come on and try to play devil's advocate for people like Zarqawi?

How was I doing that exactly? By stating that he should get a fair trial?? Where did I defend anything he did, or suggest that he isn't guilty?

You are such a loser.

Grow up.

When arguing the importance of Due Process, it might behoove you to use a human being as an example rather than an animal with a history of making videos of himself severing the heads of westerners and Iraqis.

No, actually its an excelent example, because whats the point of due process if we do away with it when it suits us.

Guilty as charged.

yep, but that doesn't make it allright to do away with due process. Why do you believe that due process is important the rest of the time, and how does how bad someone is diminish those reasons?

[bknblk]

OK, Dumbphil, here we go:

Why should Zarqawi receive any trial? He is not guaranteed due process by the constitution of the nation who's sovereignty he is violating and the citizens of which he is terrorizing. He is an enemy combatant against the people of Iraq as well as those of the coalition. I would not be opposed to his receiving a quick trial, but circumstances are not pointing toward this type of resolution. He is still not entitled to Due Process. You are still a loser.

[evilchris]

Liberals are the reason our tax dollars pay for prisoner's college educations Drum. Is that justice?
Oh, and since when is Zarcowardi entitled to the USA's justice system?

[Ninjaman09]

yep, but that doesn't make it allright to do away with due process. Why do you believe that due process is important the rest of the time, and how does how bad someone is diminish those reasons?
That's like arguing that we should entitle a rabid dog to due process before it's destroyed. But please go on, I'm sure this will be amusing.

[netviper13]

If we actually capture him, then I believe it would be hypocritical, and just plain bad policy-making, to not afford him at least basic human rights.

If he were 'accidentally' killed in a firefight, however... ;)

Politics is all about appearances and looks, not what actually is happening.

[vampireuk]

If he were 'accidentally' killed in a firefight, however... ;)

Also for clarification the firefight would extend for several hours after the firefight.

[Drumphil]

OK, Dumbphil, here we go:

get the joke?? do ya?? huh? huh? oh yeah, its a play on my name! genius!!

Why should Zarqawi receive any trial?

Because everyone should.

He is not guaranteed due process by the constitution of the nation who's sovereignty he is violating and the citizens of which he is terrorizing.

Punishment without trial is allowed under the Iraqi constution?

He is an enemy combatant against the people of Iraq as well as those of the coalition. I would not be opposed to his receiving a quick trial, but circumstances are not pointing toward this type of resolution. He is still not entitled to Due Process.

Yes he is.
You are still a loser.

You still need to grow up.


Liberals are the reason our tax dollars pay for prisoner's college educations Drum. Is that justice?

No, thats mercy. And thats a damn tenuous link to this situation.

Oh, and since when is Zarcowardi entitled to the USA's justice system?

I didn't realise that due process was something that only americans were entitled to. Silly me. Which part of the Iraqi constution specifies that its allright to execute someone without a fair trial? Is the right to a fair trial something that only americans have a right to expect?

[sytaylor]

Liberals are the reason our tax dollars pay for prisoner's college educations Drum. Is that justice?
Oh, and since when is Zarcowardi entitled to the USA's justice system?

It's my opinion that international justice is a grey area. Saddam wasn't shot on the spot and for good reason. I'd like to see an intiative to have an international court for international crimes, presided by say, 3 judges from any of the security council members provided the accused is not from said nation. I wouldn't bat an eyelid if zaquiwri was shot, but I'd hate to see the USA sink to punishment without trial.

[Ninjaman09]

I think the man's actions precede him. A trial would be completely unneccesary and a waste of taxpayer's money. The guy doesn't exactly make an attempt to conceal his actions, you know? Hell, Zarqawi himself would most likely abhor any due process afforded to him! I'm all about equal rights and everything but frankly I think when you saw peoples' heads off with a dull knife in the name of some fanatical belief in a caveman religion, videotape said actions, and have the tape broadcast and later claim responsibility for it, you kind of deliver your own verdict. Maybe that's just me. I'm more about being "reasonable" and "sane".
I didn't realise that due process was something that only americans were entitled to.
Considering "due process" is guaranteed only to American citizens, I don't see what there is to be surprised about.

[Rakeesh]

How was I doing that exactly? By stating that he should get a fair trial?? Where did I defend anything he did, or suggest that he isn't guilty?

What the hell is the point in due process when he is clearly guilty? You libs may love a long drawn out bureaucracy and all of the unnecessary expenses that go along with it, but this is war and theres no need for it. A summary execution will do quite nicely.

[sytaylor]

What the hell is the point in due process when he is clearly guilty?

Its my honest belief that a guy who axe murdered a family and mailed it to the police should still be given a trial. You aply the rule unequivocally to all without prejudice. Justice is blind, it knows only evidence, and when the evidence is so clear, then justice will be done. That is what has gotten us to the stage we are at now in the western world, and I'll be damned if I let anyone take that away from me. Emotional reactions to real world problems, while good senitment, are in reality; useless.

[DaveW]

I daresay the man never had any useful purpose.

A miserable death would be too good for this pile of vermin. Keep him alive and in perpetual pain until his body can't handle it anymore. I'll be watching and laughing.

He has useful body parts, if nothing else. I would remove his liver and kidneys first, then revive him. He will live for a couple of hours without them. As he is dying, let him know that his organs are going to help one of those evil godless infidels that he hates so much.

[Sazar]

zarqawi uses religion as a tool to further violence and terrorism...

religious zealot? I doubt it...

terrorist and everything else? most definitely...

[evilchris]

Before we bury him, we should stuff his body with pork.

[Ninjaman09]

Its my honest belief that a guy who axe murdered a family and mailed it to the police should still be given a trial. You aply the rule unequivocally to all without prejudice. Justice is blind, it knows only evidence, and when the evidence is so clear, then justice will be done. That is what has gotten us to the stage we are at now in the western world, and I'll be damned if I let anyone take that away from me. Emotional reactions to real world problems, while good senitment, are in reality; useless.
You are saying this as if he were a person with rights under the American constitution. He isn't. He's an enemy combatant, as has been mentioned before, and an extraordinarily dangerous one at that. I doubt capture is even an option for this guy. As I said before, I think everyone should have a fair trial under U.S. law but nowhere in our law does it say that fanatical terrorists are guaranteed any rights. I do not see how it is constructive to waste money on a trial.

[Sazar]

You are saying this as if he were a person with rights under the American constitution. He isn't. He's an enemy combatant, as has been mentioned before, and an extraordinarily dangerous one at that. I doubt capture is even an option for this guy. As I said before, I think everyone should have a fair trial under U.S. law but nowhere in our law does it say that fanatical terrorists are guaranteed any rights. I do not see how it is constructive to waste money on a trial.

international law dictates much the same does it not?

fwiw saddam is on trial @ the moment IIRC...