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01-31-05, 02:23 PM
I've just purchased a Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20" & I'm awaiting delivery... (currently have 21" CRT therefore didn't want to downsize to 17")
I'm new to the LCD side of things but understand LCD's look better when running at their Native resolution (which for this LCD it's 1600x1200)
Abviously running every game at 1600x1200 on a 6800nu (even with the additional pipes unlocked and a core/memory speed of 385/830) is going to be a bit of a choppy affair with newer games.
Will running LCD's out side their native resolution be that noticable (i.e. running this one at 1280x1024).
I could always return it and get 2 17" LCD's running natively at 1280x1024 with aa & af on and save myself some change in the process.
Any input would be greatfully recieved i.e. good or bad experience with this LCD..
01-31-05, 03:15 PM
There should be no problem running a game in a lower-than-native res on most current LCDs. While running in a non-native res might look somewhat fuzzy on the desktop, you would be hard pressed to see anything during a game.
Yeah, that is part of the reason I went with a 19" LCD (1280x1024 resolution). Like the other post mentioned though, games don't look all that bad when using the non-native resolution. It's very noticeable on the desktop but not in-game. Another option is just running the game in a window although I guess I prefer just using a non-native resolution and running full-screen. I'm still trying to decide how to handle that myself since I just got a LCD not too long ago.
01-31-05, 03:30 PM
I have the same monitor and have run several games below 16 x 12 with no noticeable difference.
I have a 2005fp and you can't really run games lower than native unless you squish it, center it, or fixed aspect scaling. I notice blurriness when I use fixed aspect scaling so I'm assuming it will be like that on a 2001. I recommend running at 16x12 with no AA/AF
I love my 2001 FP, but now I have a 23" Sony that I love more :)
01-31-05, 04:25 PM
800x600 with full AA and AF should also look good, since your staying with the same ratio, each pixel drawn by the card will be built out of a 2x2 pixel space on the lcd.
You get into trouble when you start changing the ratio.
01-31-05, 11:37 PM
Well i only had one LCD 16ms 19" Hitachi and going anything lower then native 1280x1024 kills image quality 1152x768 was bearable but lower was horrible if you can't run games at LCDs native res then you just kill the point of haveing LCD for sharper image ,gets blocky and fuzzy :p that why i still prefer a good CRT for games over LCD.
For movies wish i could afford 23" 1920x1200 res HDTV 1080 ready screen :drooling:
02-01-05, 01:42 AM
Aye but LCD is very tempting especially this one :drooling:
ViewSonic VP171b 17-inch 8ms
Here is a review of it (http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=1317&cid=5&pg=1) if it was 19" id get it :(
i think its impossible to tell the difference between 16ms, 12ms, and 8ms, but thats just me.
Scaling down from the native resoltuin looks like ass, just ask us LCD owners who run 3dmark at 1024x768 : (
Nvidias adapter scaling/ratio/software/joeyjoejoe jr shabadoo works pretty good, downscaling graphics was the reason i got nvidia over ATI, but little did I know the 6800gt can handle anything at 1280x1024
02-01-05, 09:45 AM
I think LCDs look blurry regardless, the motion blur in high contrast images is too much for me even on the top-end monitors. I'll take my chances and go blind with my CRT.
Same here. I'm sticking with my CRT's for now. IMO LCD's are space savers and nothing more. The only reason I'm eventually getting an LCD is to mount to the top of my case for portability.
... scaling/ratio/software/joeyjoejoe jr shabadoo ...
"That's the worst name I've ever heard" ;)
I have the 2001FP, you can use 1:1 scalling, which adds black borders instead of increases image size. You'll get a 16 inch image still at 1280x1024. But this monitor has very good scaling.
"That's the worst name I've ever heard" ;)
Joey Joe Joe!!!!!!!
I think many LCDs have problems w/ scaling but my bro has a nice Toshiba 17" LCD and runs Nvidia video and it scales many different resolutions just fine. I was totally amazed as the one he had before that scaled like crap, as had all my work LCDs. :(
02-01-05, 10:31 AM
I walked in to work today and it was on my desk.... (I'm more surprised it hadn't walked off all by itself)
Pretty impressive, Ordered the LCD 'late' Sunday night and it arrived Tuesday Morning... well done to DELL...
For anybody considering one of these Monitors, it does come packaged with DVI, VGA & USB extender cables... (Dell support couldn't tell me..)
I'll have a play around tonight and see if it's money well spent... (still like the idea of 2 17"...)
Cheers for all the feed back...
im gettin a BenQ 19" 12ms LCD by the end of this week. my old LCD monitor, a 15" 1024x768, ran great but i wanted higher resolutions for my vid card to tackle.
i can see the issues with gettin a 1600x1200 native LCD. seems like the best option is to run 1280x1024 until vid cards can tackle 1600x1200 flawlessly alone (unless you have SLI :cool2: )
02-01-05, 12:35 PM
BenQ monitors are really good. I like how people get all "down" on LCDs saying they suck for gaming or something, like one LCD is the same as another. I would suggest people move on from 2 years ago. The situation isn't the same any more.
I'm running on a 26" LG LCD/TV..Absolutely incredible picture through its DVI port.
Colour and clarity is out of this world. Would NEVER go back to a CRT ever again.
Gaming as its meant to be....games as they were designed for.
02-08-05, 04:56 PM
Looking at your comments. it seems that lcd gaming is really the way to go. since i live in a place where it is not that easy switching from crt to lcd, most gamers have to decide between tiny and basic lcds (15") or bigger, less expensive crt (17" an up).
In my case, i had the chance of chosing a bigger one (22") and i'm really happy. now i have the chance to switch to a lcd smaller but very space saving.
the question is
should i switch to lcd or keep what i got?
What i got:
Viewsonic p225f -4m running at 2048*1536
what i can get:
Viewsonic vg910s (Maxres: 1280*1024)
and with a little effort
Viewsonic vx2000 (Maxres: 1600*1200)
The resolution droping is dramatic or what do you think?
i welcome any suggestion, comments, comparatives, and stuff
02-08-05, 05:41 PM
i LOVE my hitachi cml174sx. my hat has gotta be tipped to saturn :)
02-08-05, 10:23 PM
Might I suggest a Samsung SynchMaster 243t.
I use it with my SLI 6800 ultra and it is just abeautiful picture.
Games look sweet and Excel does not require much scrolling. :cool:
02-09-05, 03:15 AM
If you are an MMORPG addict you will be best served by 1280x1024(or 960). To me, the game GUI's and text etc are most comfortable at this level. Yes, you can increase font size and reorganize most GUI's. I have tried customizing at 1600x1200 and still prefer 1280 in general.
I feel low response time LCD's are fine for general office use and gaming. Viewsonic does indeed have a few of the native 1280(8ms) stripe that are very attractive. Since I am holding off on SLI ,I may very well get one myself in the meantime. I am tired of an 85 and below refresh on my CRT at said res. While certainly not flawless, I find some of the new LCD's much easier on the eyes. Definitely, run them through DVI.
Samsung 913N 8ms :) thats sweet :)
02-09-05, 09:22 AM
I have the Dell 2005fpw lcd which is pretty much the 2001fp with widescreen aspect ratio and a few minor upgrades. I switched from a Viewsonic P95f+ which I ran at 1600x1200 @85hz and at first I wasn't quite sure about the picture quality in games but once I adjusted the picture, I couldn't be happier. I run all my games at 1680x1050 4xaa/8xaf and the colors are phenominal. Hope you like your 2001fp.
02-09-05, 10:01 AM
Samsung 913N 8ms :) thats sweet :)
I recently picked up one of these and they are perfect for gaming! :luv:
Only complaint is some color issues.
I can barely se any, if any, ghosting.
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