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superklye
02-03-05, 01:03 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/dapfner.asp

A few days ago Henry Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag, "Europe — your family name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of your head because it's so terribly true.

Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews their lives as England and France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated too long before they noticed that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to toothless agreements.

Appeasement legitimized and stabilized Communism in the Soviet Union, then East Germany, then all the rest of Eastern Europe where for decades, inhuman, suppressive, murderous governments were glorified as the ideologically correct alternative to all other possibilities.

Appeasement crippled Europe when genocide ran rampant in Kosovo, and, even though we had absolute proof of ongoing mass-murder, we Europeans debated and debated and debated, and were still debating when finally the Americans had to come from halfway around the world, into Europe yet again, and do our work for us.

Rather than protecting democracy in the Middle East, European appeasement, camouflaged behind the fuzzy word "equidistance," now countenances suicide bombings in Israel by fundamentalist Palestinians.

Appeasement generates a mentality that allows Europe to ignore nearly 500,000 victims of Saddam's torture and murder machinery and, motivated by the self-righteousness of the peace-movement, has the gall to issue bad grades to George Bush... Even as it is uncovered that the loudest critics of the American action in Iraq made illicit billions, no, TENS of billions, in the corrupt U. N. Oil-for-Food program.

And now we are faced with a particularly grotesque form of appeasement. How is Germany reacting to the escalating violence by Islamic fundamentalists in Holland and elsewhere? By suggesting that we really should have a "Muslim Holiday" in Germany.

I wish I were joking, but I am not. A substantial fraction of our (German) Government, and if the polls are to be believed, the German people, actually believe that creating an Official State "Muslim Holiday" will somehow spare us from the wrath of the fanatical Islamists.

One cannot help but recall Britain's Neville Chamberlain waving the laughable treaty signed by Adolph Hitler, and declaring European "Peace in our time".

What else has to happen before the European public and its political leadership get it? There is a sort of crusade underway, an especially perfidious crusade consisting of systematic attacks by fanatic Muslims, focused on civilians, directed against our free, open Western societies, and intent upon Western Civilization's utter destruction.

It is a conflict that will most likely last longer than any of the great military conflicts of the last century - a conflict conducted by an enemy that cannot be tamed by "tolerance" and "accommodation" but is actually spurred on by such gestures, which have proven to be, and will always be taken by the Islamists for signs of weakness.

Only two recent American Presidents had the courage needed for anti-appeasement: Reagan and Bush.

His American critics may quibble over the details, but we Europeans know the truth. We saw it first hand: Ronald Reagan ended the Cold War, freeing half of the German people from nearly 50 years of terror and virtual slavery. And Bush, supported only by the Social Democrat Blair, acting on moral conviction, recognized the danger in the Islamic War against democracy. His place in history will have to be evaluated after a number of years have passed.

In the meantime, Europe sits back with charismatic self-confidence in the multicultural corner, instead of defending liberal society's values and being an attractive center of power on the same playing field as the true great powers, America and China.

On the contrary, we Europeans present ourselves, in contrast to those "arrogant Americans", as the World Champions of "tolerance", which even Otto Schily justifiably criticizes.

Why?

Because we're so moral? I fear it's more because we're so materialistic, so devoid of a moral compass.

For his policies, Bush risks the fall of the dollar, huge amounts of additional national debt, and a massive and persistent burden on the American economy, because unlike almost all of Europe, Bush realizes what is at stake — literally everything.

While we criticize the "capitalistic robber barons" of America because they seem too sure of their priorities, we timidly defend our Social Welfare systems. Stay out of it! It could get expensive! We'd rather discuss reducing our 35-hour workweek or our dental coverage, or our 4 weeks of paid vacation, or listen to TV pastors preach about the need to "Reach out to terrorists, to understand and forgive".

These days, Europe reminds me of an old woman who, with shaking hands, frantically hides her last pieces of jewelry when she notices a robber breaking into a neighbor's house.

Appeasement? Europe, thy name is Cowardice.

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I thought this was a great piece. I couldn't agree with it more, actually.

nVidi0t
02-04-05, 12:24 AM
Brilliant.

BlakeStone
02-04-05, 12:33 AM
This is why I'm glad to be a Canadian. The writer forgot a big one: Apeasement is what kept America out of World War II until Pearl Harbor was bombed.

Vagrant Zero
02-04-05, 12:41 AM
While I agree with the premise I still fail to see how this relates to responsibilty. Let's imagine we're talking about the US here. Is it the USs responsibilty to right the wrongs of the world. To stop Genocide and all that fun stuff. No. It's a good thing that we DO. But it's not our RESPONSIBILTY. Just like it isn't our responsibilty to feed, cloth, and provide for the world. If group A is killing group B in region Z...well boohoo, what's it got to do with us? Now when group A starts to pose a threat to us that's when we go over there and kick their faces in.

Also that Soviet comment is ludicrious, WTF did the author want Europe to do? Nicley ask Mr. Stalin to not kill millions?

This is why I'm glad to be a Canadian. The writer forgot a big one: Apeasement is what kept America out of World War II until Pearl Harbor was bombed.

Exactly. It was the Soviet flag that flew over the Riechstag, not the American one.

Still, when the US actually does bother to goto war for a good cause the European nations need to STFU and let us handle it. Not like now with them bitching at us left and right.

retsam
02-04-05, 12:41 AM
that was great .... wow were did you find that.

Cota
02-04-05, 12:45 AM
well its got some really interesting points.

Cota
02-04-05, 12:51 AM
This is why I'm glad to be a Canadian. The writer forgot a big one: Apeasement is what kept America out of World War II until Pearl Harbor was bombed.

I know someone else will give a better response than me but...

The US was already involved in the conflict, Pearl Harbor was not a trigger, more like a catalyst.

BlakeStone
02-04-05, 01:03 AM
I know someone else will give a better response than me but...

The US was already involved in the conflict, Pearl Harbor was not a trigger, more like a catalyst.

Thats right, Roosevelt provided aid to Allied countries and did a lot of "condemning". There was a peacetime draft, frozen Japanese assets... Shall I continue?

America did not go to war with anybody until 8/12/1941 when war was declared on Japan, followed by Germany, Italy etc. etc. etc.

Yonkers
02-04-05, 01:11 AM
Thats right, Roosevelt provided aid to Allied countries and did a lot of "condemning". There was a peacetime draft, frozen Japanese assets... Shall I continue?

America did not go to war with anybody until 8/12/1941 when war was declared on Japan, followed by Germany, Italy etc. etc. etc.

We declared war on Japan on the 8th and germany on the 11th. I think that is correct. Not sure it has been a long time.

BlakeStone
02-04-05, 01:23 AM
We declared war on Japan on the 8th and germany on the 11th. I think that is correct. Not sure it has been a long time.

That is correct.

http://www.worldwar-2.net/timelines/the-americas/the-americas-index-1941.htm

Yonkers
02-04-05, 01:27 AM
Hey! waddayaknow I got some thing right. The funny part is that it was Germany whom we first attacked.

sytaylor
02-04-05, 02:22 AM
Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews their lives as England and France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated too long before they noticed that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to toothless agreements.

Chaimberlian (sp?) was sucked into the whole "Peace in our time" thing by Hitler who realised the UK was his only major European equal force. He wanted to use the strong left lurch post WWI to hope people would ignore what he was doing long enough for him to bring them on board, like he did with Italy. The whole time churchill was saying we should be building our forces and that Hitler was an evil man. They called him a war moungerer.

superklye
02-04-05, 03:36 AM
that was great .... wow were did you find that.
My dad emailed me the link.

vampireuk
02-04-05, 06:03 AM
Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews their lives as England and France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated too long before they noticed that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to toothless agreements.

I shall remind you Britain declared war on Germany the very day they invaded Poland.

sytaylor
02-04-05, 07:07 AM
Indeed the undertone of British appesement in that article is quite sick really when we were the first to stand up and do something about Hitler (AKA "Europe's problem").

Tyr-Sog
02-04-05, 07:29 AM
I believe that's his point. It should have never reached that point.

JRd1st
02-06-05, 12:57 PM
What you see in Europe now is simply the result of evolution.

Most of the bold and adventurous Europeans with initiative, left Europe for better digs over the past two centuries. The Europeans that were happy with their lot stayed put.

What you see now is the result of selective breeding.


BTW, I don't consider the UK as part of Europe.

Rakeesh
02-06-05, 01:03 PM
Indeed the undertone of British appesement in that article is quite sick really when we were the first to stand up and do something about Hitler (AKA "Europe's problem").

Well, various countries in europe were the problem, e.g. germany, italy, austria, and france who didn't do a goddamned thing when hitler invaded them.

Tyr-Sog
02-08-05, 09:57 AM
BTW, I don't consider the UK as part of Europe.


I know quite a few folks from the UK living here in the States now and they all feel the same way.

vampireuk
02-08-05, 11:17 AM
Britain isn't a part of Europe :D

oldsk00l
02-08-05, 11:34 AM
Europe, what a crappy convoluted miserable peninsula.

Yonkers
02-08-05, 12:14 PM
Britain isn't a part of Europe :D
LOL YOU turds have a DIRECT escape! route to France. LMAOAAAA!~~~~`````2121

Ninjaman09
02-08-05, 12:20 PM
lolz 4 r33l lozl pwn3d

DaveW
02-08-05, 12:41 PM
LOL YOU turds have a DIRECT escape! route to France. LMAOAAAA!~~~~`````2121

You typed "you" instead of "your"

Yonkers
02-08-05, 12:49 PM
LOL! funny but it was typed right but your joke is funny. :D