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SubwooferBoy
02-03-05, 01:46 PM
i was looking at this system from dell. has the 3.4GHz Pentium 4 Extreme, (3) 15K SCSI's in RAID 0 array, 2 gigs of 533MHz, Quadro FX 3400

Here is the run down:

Dell Precision Workstation 370 Minitower

Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edit. 3.40GHz, 2MB L3 Cache 334T2 [221-5846] 1

Intel Hyper-Threading Hyper-Threading feature preset to "ON." Can be disabled/enabled in BIOS. HYPER [460-7163] 41

Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional, SP2 with Media XPP2E [420-4860] 11

File System NTFS File System NTFS [420-3699] 13

Memory 2GB, 533MHz, DDR2 SDRAM Memory, ECC (4 DIMMS) 2GE4 [310-5227] 3

Graphics Card 256MB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro FX 3400, Dual DVI or Dual VGA or DVI + VGA FX3400 [312-0293] 6

Hard Drive Configuration C7 All SCSI drives in RAID 0, 3 drive total configuration SCR03 [341-1265] 9

Boot Hard Drive 36GB Ultra 320 SCSI, 1 inch (15,000 rpm) 36SC15 [341-0789] 8

2nd Hard Drive 36GB Ultra 320 SCSI, 1 inch (15,000 rpm) 36SC15A [341-0489] 23

3rd Hard Drive 36GB Ultra 320 SCSI, 1 inch (10,000 rpm) 36SC10A [341-0487] 39

Hard Drive Internal Controller Option U320 SCSI Card U320I [341-1296] 24

Sound Sound Blaster* Audigy™ 2 (D), w/Dolby Digital 5.1 & IEEE1394a SBA2 [313-1439] 17

Floppy Drive 3.5 inch 1.44MB Floppy Drive FD [341-0497] 10

Modem Dell™ 56K v.92 Data/Fax PCI Modem V92DF [312-0256] 14

CD-ROM, DVD, and Read-Write Devices 48X/32X CD-RW/DVD Combo w/ CyberLink PowerDVD COMBO [341-0476] 16

Speakers No Speaker N [313-2663] 18

Keyboard Entry Level, PS/2, No Hot Keys E [310-1609] 4

Mouse Dell USB 2-Button Mechanical Mouse with Scroll ELD [310-5203] 12

Monitors No Monitor Option N [320-3316] 5

Hardware Support Services 3 Year Basic Plan W3YOS [980-7000][980-7002] 29


FREE 3-5 Day Ground Shipping

TOTAL: $4,392.00

|MaguS|
02-03-05, 01:53 PM
What would you be using this monster for? If its for gaming then no, your getting ripped off.

Pandora's Box
02-03-05, 02:14 PM
What would you be using this monster for? If its for gaming then no, your getting ripped off.


speaks the truth he does.

TierMann
02-03-05, 02:22 PM
I'd go with a 6800 ultra and save yourself ~1000, unless you're using it for a professional workstation rather than gaming.

Personally too, I would go for size rather than speed on the third hd, but that's preference. If I were doing video editing, 3d work, or even gaming I'd fill up the 36 or even 72 gigs in no time.

boxterduke
02-03-05, 02:23 PM
speaks the truth he does.
He does

anyway if you can spend this much money on a gaming PC then go with Voodoo PC or Falcon
Do not go Dell :confused:

SubwooferBoy
02-03-05, 02:26 PM
What would you be using this monster for? If its for gaming then no, your getting ripped off.


gaming, i just reworked the options to 1 gig of ram instead of 2 gig and drops the price down to $3900

the FX-3400 is a $900 option but i was go SLI and add another one myself.

i'm just getting into this so i'm trying to decide to buy a "system" or try and build one myself.

Subtestube
02-03-05, 02:27 PM
If it's not for gaming, then that begs the question as to why you aren't buying Xeons or Opterons? A workstation is MUCH better served by a workstation CPU. Also, EEs are VERY expensive - for what you get. You can get comparable Xeons/Opterons for a comparable price at the moment.

Edit: Sorry, just saw your post - ignore the CPU things. DON'T get a Quadro 3400. In games it'll perform more slowly than a 6800 GT. Quadros are WORKSTATION graphics cards, and you can SLi 6800 GT/Ultras.

SubwooferBoy
02-03-05, 03:25 PM
If it's not for gaming, then that begs the question as to why you aren't buying Xeons or Opterons? A workstation is MUCH better served by a workstation CPU. Also, EEs are VERY expensive - for what you get. You can get comparable Xeons/Opterons for a comparable price at the moment.

Edit: Sorry, just saw your post - ignore the CPU things. DON'T get a Quadro 3400. In games it'll perform more slowly than a 6800 GT. Quadros are WORKSTATION graphics cards, and you can SLi 6800 GT/Ultras.

ok, i'm doing some more homework

what about hard drives? is 3 scsi raid 0 array over kill for gaming?

what about 2 10K raptors? or even just a single one? or is a single 7200 SATA good enough? dual 7200 sata's at raid 0 seems low cost compaired to dual raptors maybe?

someone once told me to get a lot of ram, like 2 or 4 gigs and turn off the page file or even create a "ram disk" and run your game off the ram disk

ryan

Lash444
02-03-05, 04:24 PM
i was looking at this system from dell. has the 3.4GHz Pentium 4 Extreme, (3) 15K SCSI's in RAID 0 array, 2 gigs of 533MHz, Quadro FX 3400

Here is the run down:

Dell Precision Workstation 370 Minitower

Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edit. 3.40GHz, 2MB L3 Cache 334T2 [221-5846] 1

Intel Hyper-Threading Hyper-Threading feature preset to "ON." Can be disabled/enabled in BIOS. HYPER [460-7163] 41

Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional, SP2 with Media XPP2E [420-4860] 11

File System NTFS File System NTFS [420-3699] 13

Memory 2GB, 533MHz, DDR2 SDRAM Memory, ECC (4 DIMMS) 2GE4 [310-5227] 3

Graphics Card 256MB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro FX 3400, Dual DVI or Dual VGA or DVI + VGA FX3400 [312-0293] 6

Hard Drive Configuration C7 All SCSI drives in RAID 0, 3 drive total configuration SCR03 [341-1265] 9

Boot Hard Drive 36GB Ultra 320 SCSI, 1 inch (15,000 rpm) 36SC15 [341-0789] 8

2nd Hard Drive 36GB Ultra 320 SCSI, 1 inch (15,000 rpm) 36SC15A [341-0489] 23

3rd Hard Drive 36GB Ultra 320 SCSI, 1 inch (10,000 rpm) 36SC10A [341-0487] 39

Hard Drive Internal Controller Option U320 SCSI Card U320I [341-1296] 24

Sound Sound Blaster* Audigy™ 2 (D), w/Dolby Digital 5.1 & IEEE1394a SBA2 [313-1439] 17

Floppy Drive 3.5 inch 1.44MB Floppy Drive FD [341-0497] 10

Modem Dell™ 56K v.92 Data/Fax PCI Modem V92DF [312-0256] 14

CD-ROM, DVD, and Read-Write Devices 48X/32X CD-RW/DVD Combo w/ CyberLink PowerDVD COMBO [341-0476] 16

Speakers No Speaker N [313-2663] 18

Keyboard Entry Level, PS/2, No Hot Keys E [310-1609] 4

Mouse Dell USB 2-Button Mechanical Mouse with Scroll ELD [310-5203] 12

Monitors No Monitor Option N [320-3316] 5

Hardware Support Services 3 Year Basic Plan W3YOS [980-7000][980-7002] 29


FREE 3-5 Day Ground Shipping

TOTAL: $4,392.00


If its for gaming, get an athlon...they are better. I also agree that a 3rd hard drive of large size would be the best. Put your OS on the primary scsi, pagefile and games on secondary. Dont listen to the guy who said disable your pagefile...thats just not wise. 1gb of memory will be sufficient, unless you run a ton of applications at once, a database, or do a lot of photo/image manipulation. 2GB will certainly be more than enough/overkill. 4gb, is just a waste of money.

15k scsi is still faster than raptors. Will be incredibly fast for bootup/load times. HArd drive performance is a huge bottleneck in a lot of cases. These thigns are like fossils.

Why a 533MHz ram? 800FSB for sure with intel, but you should go athlon 64. Ill let the other guys comment though.

BTW, buying that is a complete waste of money...

Jocomp10
02-03-05, 04:36 PM
/\ Like he said get an AMD64 it's better for gaming you can get a system with and athlon 64 fx-55 similer to the specs above for just over 3 grand from alienware excluding the quadro, but like someone else said a 6800 ultra would be beter for games better deal IMO.

_Phil_
02-03-05, 04:47 PM
www.alienware.com if you want to spend that sort of money!

bkswaney
02-03-05, 05:38 PM
www.alienware.com if you want to spend that sort of money!


I second that.
If I did not build my own AW is what I would own. :D

$n][pErMan
02-03-05, 09:13 PM
Dell = POS

toxikneedle
02-03-05, 09:14 PM
Everytime someone buys a dell, an innocent bunny is shot. Don't buy dells.

Spewn
02-03-05, 09:56 PM
Sure, you could go for Alienware but if u can order all the parts from an online vendor and either you or vendors assemble it you will save yourself a ton of money over an alienware, falcon northwest, or voodoo.

saturnotaku
02-03-05, 10:06 PM
Alienware has a 10% off instant rebate promotion going on right now. You can get a system with an Athlon 64 FX-55, dual GeForce 6800 GT cards, Audigy 2 ZS, 3-year warranty and 1 GB of Corsair low latency RAM for $3700. This machine is 10x the gaming one as originally proposed and it costs less.

mustrum
02-04-05, 04:04 AM
Dude you are on the wrong track. You say you want a gaming system and then wanna go for a Intel P 4 with nvidia quadro?

What you need is an AMD 64 and a 6800 ULTRA (or 2 of em ;) ).