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chezzy
02-03-05, 07:14 PM
I am looking to purchase a 6600 card. i would love a 6800gt, but my budget does not allow it this year. anyway, I currently have a BFG 5950 ultra 256mb in my system now. I run a amd64 3400+ system. My question is....does the 6600 series have a noticeable performance increase over the 5950 ultra or is the difference only slight and not worth spending the money? I have been looking online when i get a chance to find a comparison chart, but cannot seem to find one. Any help in answering this would be greatly appreciated. thank you. :confused:

SH64
02-03-05, 07:23 PM
I dont advise you getting a 6600 over the 5950 . although it has poor SM2.0 performance i still think the 5950 is better overall . it has higher fillrate & much more memory bandwidth .
i suggest you wait until you get enough budget for the 6600GT as a minimum case of upgrading over the 5950 . otherwise i'd say wait more & get the 6800GT.

AthlonXP1800
02-03-05, 09:21 PM
Chezzy, what your budget for the new card? 100, 200?

SpeedDemon
02-03-05, 09:49 PM
I'm kind of guessing that he was talking about a 6600 GT and not a vanilla 6600.

ChrisRay
02-03-05, 10:10 PM
I dont advise you getting a 6600 over the 5950 . although it has poor SM2.0 performance i still think the 5950 is better overall . it has higher fillrate & much more memory bandwidth .
i suggest you wait until you get enough budget for the 6600GT as a minimum case of upgrading over the 5950 . otherwise i'd say wait more & get the 6800GT.


It has better bandwith, But not fillrate,

475 4x2 (verses a 8x1 500 (with 4 rops)) still has less fillrate in multitexturing and single texturing 0_O

Gator
02-04-05, 06:20 AM
FX5900XT = 22.4GB memory bandwidth
FX5950Ultra = 30.4GB memory bandwidth
6600GT AGP = 16.0GB memory bandwidth

I upgraded from a FX5900XT to a 6600GT and it was worth it. But since the FX5950Ultra is much faster than my FX5900XT with much high memory bandwidth than the 6600GT, I'm not sure how the 6600GT would compare. I do know that the 6600GT has better DX9 and shader capabilities, the AA/AF works better with less performance hit, but for raw performance the FX5950Ultra probably wins. It really all comes down to how you use your system, if you wanna see better results in DX9 games like HL2 then it'll help. But if you are primarily a DX8 gamer then it's probably not worth it.

And if you mean the 6600 non-GT... then it is DEFINETLY not worth it, that's a much slower card.

In your case the 6600GT doesn't make sense because of the huge memory bandwidth loss. Keep saving a little longer if you have to and get a 6800 series card instead, preferably with 256mb of RAM since you're already used to it. Nobody likes waiting and I know you said you're on a budget, but if you put a little money aside every week you'll be able to afford the 6800 before long.

chezzy
02-04-05, 07:23 AM
thanks guys for the great heads up. I think I will save the money and wait till the 6800 series drop in price more. thank you!

Marcos
02-04-05, 08:08 AM
i thought 6600gt got better benchies than a 9800 pro and a 9800 pro got better benchies than 5950u???111

Gator
02-04-05, 01:57 PM
i thought 6600gt got better benchies than a 9800 pro and a 9800 pro got better benchies than 5950u???111

the 6600GT only performs better than the R9800Pro by a slim margin, and only under certain circumstances. So to upgrade from a R9800Pro or an FX5950U to a 6600GT would probably be a waste of money. And as I mentioned, in raw DX8 performance the FX5950U would probably be faster.

Kev1
02-04-05, 02:46 PM
I'm getting a 6600GT card, and Im upgrading from a FX5900 modded to 5950.

However, I am also upgrading to an NForce 4 mobo and A64 3000+ CPU. Im pretty sure the NForce 4 combined with a 6600GT PCIe card will out perform my current setup by a large margin in either DX8 or DX9 games.

Most people who have upgraded from a FX5900 series AGP card to 6600GT series AGP seem to be very satisfied with their purchase.

Gator
02-04-05, 06:57 PM
I'm getting a 6600GT card, and Im upgrading from a FX5900 modded to 5950.

However, I am also upgrading to an NForce 4 mobo and A64 3000+ CPU. Im pretty sure the NForce 4 combined with a 6600GT PCIe card will out perform my current setup by a large margin in either DX8 or DX9 games.

Most people who have upgraded from a FX5900 series AGP card to 6600GT series AGP seem to be very satisfied with their purchase.

Yes that's a good upgrade. Since you'll combine the 6600GT with an upgrade from AXP to A64 you'll definetly see a performance difference that's worth it. :cool:

quik_2_win
02-04-05, 08:26 PM
Indeed ^^^
Also, the PCIe 6600GTs seem to outperform the AGP versions/ seem more stable also...

SH64
02-04-05, 08:57 PM
It has better bandwith, But not fillrate,

475 4x2 (verses a 8x1 500 (with 4 rops)) still has less fillrate in multitexturing and single texturing 0_O

I thought he was talking about the 6600 standard , wasn't he ?

ChrisRay
02-04-05, 09:39 PM
I thought he was talking about the 6600 standard , wasn't he ?

He didnt specify.. I assume 6600GT since I have never seen a standard 6600 in AGP form..

jAkUp
02-04-05, 11:36 PM
I don't believe the 6600 AGP is out yet... (GT has been out for a while)

Gator
02-05-05, 09:24 AM
I don't believe the 6600 AGP is out yet... (GT has been out for a while)

Actually yes there is a XFX 6600 Standard 256mb AGP card for $182 which is a rip off.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-150-083&depa=0

For $17 more you can get the far more powerful Gigabyte 6600GT AGP

ChrisRay
02-05-05, 05:52 PM
Actually yes there is a XFX 6600 Standard 256mb AGP card for $182 which is a rip off.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-150-083&depa=0

For $17 more you can get the far more powerful Gigabyte 6600GT AGP


Thats news! thanks for that gator! I speculate the bridge chip is a relatively expensive solution holding back the AGP mainstream of 6600. It's sad that AGP is actually causing the parts to cost more. Usually new technology costs more. Not less. :(