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rohit
02-21-05, 10:57 PM
My current Prescott system generates a lot of HEAT, and as a result a lot of FAN-sound. On Load, the Fan-speed doesnt come below 5300rpm. This is driving me insane since over 2 months. Not only me, even a few friends are facing the same problem with prescotts on Intel, as weell as MSI motherboards. I got ASUS because of Cool-N-Quiet feature, but it wont remain Quiet :( .

I have heard from people, that the AMD Athlon64 generates very less heat compared to the intel prescotts, so i am planning to switch over to AMD atlon64 3200+ (754pin). i am doing this because i got a chance to swap my motherboard + P4 for AMD based combo. (paying a small difference)
i am very much familiar with the Intel line, but a NOOB with AMD, so a couple of questions.

1] Should i Swap to AMD Athlon64 3200+ system, or stay with curent Intel system? (Overall performance of Amd64 3200+ will be better than my current 2.8e?)
2] If i were to Swap to AMD, should should i get a 754pin 3200+ or s939pin 3200+ ?
3] Which chipset is better for AMD64, Via's Or Nforce's or Sis's?
4] Ill be gettin these ASUS boards as choice.
(K8V, K8N, K8V-SE, K8V-Deluxe, K8V-X)
(of these, all come with 800MHz HyperTransport Bus, Besides The K8V-Deluxe, which comes with SCALABLE HYPERTRANSPORT to 1.6GHz.
so will the Scalable HyperTransport to 1.6Ghz make any difference. Which of those boards should i go for?
5] Does AMD Athlon64 support Dual-Channel memory?

MUYA
02-21-05, 11:02 PM
I would say if you goto AMD, go for Socket 939, they have future line with s939 I think.

I would say all chipsets are equal to each other in performance. As the memory controller is on die. However, you get more benefits like integrated GB lan and firewall with nForce3 250GB chipsets.

I have a Asus A8v-Deluxe. very stable motherboard.

S939 is dual channel memory integrated K8s

As for moving from intel to AMD. Let me say, cooling requirements is less for AMD maybe but you still have to use air cooling which always will give ya noise. Performance wise i think your 3.4oc will be either greater or on par with a 3200+ winchester.

rohit
02-21-05, 11:51 PM
As for moving from intel to AMD. Let me say, cooling requirements is less for AMD maybe but you still have to use air cooling which always will give ya noise. Performance wise i think your 3.4oc will be either greater or on par with a 3200+ winchester.

Oh sorry, i forgot to mention, i had to remove The overcloking a couple of weeks back, the processor temps had reached 68*C :O
so had to fall back to 2.8GHz.

I'll havto rule out the option of s939 at the moment, just had a word with the dealer, its to expensive to swap for mi intel combo

The air-cooling is fine, as long as the fan-speeds stay under 4400rpm. Its almost inaudible then.

so its gonna be 3200+ s754 with either K8n, or k8v-SE.
or 3.2GHZ (new) with my (p4p800e deluxe)

still thinking from the future point-of-view, wheather AMD 64 will stand better or the Intel 3.2ghz for longhorn!
Will LongHorn support 64bit.?

dandano
02-22-05, 02:12 AM
Aren't you going to need registered ram with socket 754? If you are worried about money, I'd check and make sure.

jolle
02-22-05, 02:35 AM
Aren't you going to need registered ram with socket 754? If you are worried about money, I'd check and make sure.
Your thinking of S940, Opteron / A64FX Dual Channel... with registered ram..

rohit
02-22-05, 02:37 AM
Aren't you going to need registered ram with socket 754? If you are worried about money, I'd check and make sure.

Huh, is it so. Thanx for tellin me bro. As i mentioned in mi forst post, i am a NOOB to the AMD thing. and i know a lot about intel.

so will my TRANSCEND RAM's WORK. ddr400 512mb each.

Ive heard a lot about the incompatibility issues with nforce and via.

rohit
02-22-05, 02:47 AM
Your thinking of S940, Opteron / A64FX Dual Channel... with registered ram..

:S :S :confused: :confused:
will mi ram b compatible with ASUS k8n or k8v with athlon64 3200+ (754pin)
ALSO, wats the difference between atlon64 3200+ and 3000+. (both operate at 2.0GHz rite?)

God i think of stickin with INTEl. But prescotts r driving me MAD.

For the Longhorn, wich is better, intel or amd64?

If you are worried about money, I'd check and make sure.

i am not worried abt money, i am worried abt getting a AMD combo equally good to intel 3.2 e Ghz. i dont want intel bcoz of the HEAT. There are no alternate Zalman coolers available here either. :mad: :(

jolle
02-22-05, 02:48 AM
Im on a s754 and Im using unregistred RAM (s940 uses registered dual channel, s939 got the dual channel but WITHOUT the registered ram)
swapped out my Twinmos CL2.5 PC2700 for some Kingston HyperX CL2 PC3200 yesterday..
Both work fine.. and are unregistered..

EDIT
About your RAM, no idea..
Check Asus site if they have a compatibility list for that mobo.
the trancend RAM doesnt appear to be present in THGs test..
http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040602/index.html

And if you found a 3200+ and a 3000+ both at 2ghz then the 3000+ prolly has 512kb cache, and the 3200+ 1mb cache..

rohit
02-25-05, 11:47 PM
hey thanx a lot!

Viral
02-26-05, 09:36 AM
If you specifically want a cool system then make sure you go with a Socket 939 90nm Winchester core Athlon 64. They come in 3000+, 3200+ and 3500+ variety's. The 3200+ is a good choice for most people.

Your RAM will be fine to swap over as will all your other components. You should even be able to remain running far cooler than your Prescott with some serious overclocking. Winchesters overclock very well, many people reach 2.5-2.6GHz from the stock 2.0GHz.

Oh, and the Hypertransport runs at 1GHz on S939 boards, 2GHz effective. Usually anything above 600MHz (1200) won't mean much of a difference on single CPU boards. The HT link is basically just the communication to I/O on single CPU boards, which doesn't require much bandwidth.