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sammy sung
03-07-10, 11:05 AM
Things like that get me mad. Those raids were meant to be done in heroic level gear not require TOC or above to do something as simple as say Patchwerk.

Agreed,i also think they should remove frost emblems from heroic dungeons because many raid-guilders wants to rush them through as fast as possible,skipping bosses etc to get their 2 emblems.They whine and complain,calling people n00bs and that things take too long ,people's dps sucks etc.

Ofc people's dps sucks when they just ding 80,you dont need more than 2k anyway in most hc's but they are there for a reason.They are for the so called n00bs,to learn and to improve their gear,to get ready for tougher challenges.I despise the elitist snobs and the way they scare people off by acting like douches.Thats the worst part with this game,you can't even ask for help in the public channels without being ridiculed in one way or another .

Son Goku
05-02-10, 11:26 AM
Unless people are after achievements, it really does get ridiculous. On obsidian there's really only 1 reason to care about gear; if one's trying a 3 drake zerg. In that people essentially leave all drakes up, don't kill them with the bosses, and basically try to beat down sarph before he becomes immune to damage. But that's really only an over-power the instance strat, in which case peeps should be up front "we're after a 3 drake zerg achievement run".

Do I have the twilight zone achi for 10 player? Yep; was it easy in PuGs, not really. And it had nothing to do with gear as much (though zerging saph with all drakes alive does push things), especially where one can be left 2 tanks (1 tank taking all 3 drakes + adds on at once, other on saph) and 2 healing it to get max dps). It was that many a PuG has trouble avoiding flame walls. Given PuG after PuG couldn't do a 2 drake saph, let along all 3; we just guild ran it 1 week for the 3 drakes up.

Minus going for achis, I did obsidian sanctum both 10 and 25 man on 1 char in March 09, and another Dec 08/Jan 09. Gear wasn't even solid naxx level. Killing all drakes and doing it the standard method there's no reason. And some have also asked for GS on naxx weekly; for which I and others could only laugh with a "dude that isn't even a serious raid". Only reasons to really care who comes would be iff one's after the immortal or whatever the achi is for no one dieing the entire run.

Son Goku
05-02-10, 11:37 AM
Agreed,i also think they should remove frost emblems from heroic dungeons because many raid-guilders wants to rush them through as fast as possible,skipping bosses etc to get their 2 emblems.They whine and complain,calling people n00bs and that things take too long ,people's dps sucks etc.

Well I'm not sure I'd want them removing the frosties. TBH on my geared guys I really don't PuG anymore except for the daily (going after frosties), or if I'm helping a friend or guildie. The exception is HoR and the like where I'm after the trinket and a battered hilt.

This said there's a couple asides to this. If I'm on an alt, I don't really care if some have issue that some undergeared alt isn't pulling top DPS. My main had carried so many groups as not to be even funny. By carry I don't mean just pulling top DPS, I mean by damage meter doing > 40% and sometimes even around 50 or 52% of all damage for the entire group and having the top below me not even doing half. But then there's no way they're going to be pulling 5.5k dps on bosses, without buffs, etc.... So if some complain "oh you're only doing 2.5k or 3k; I really do feel that I've carried enough groups that bringing a new 80 in doesn't make me feel guilty.

Someone in one of my guildes had run into the same on an undergeared alt. Mind you on his mage he was not uncommonly doing around 9k-12k dps quite consistently in 3.2 before ICC came out, and looking at TotC and TotGC 25 gear. It urged him to no end when some at best average player who though he was holding his own had nothing worth bragging about kept going on about how good he is, and totally trashed this guy because his shamy alt was only doing... We were all laughing in guild chat, and he commented "perhaps I should bring my mage into this run, and shut this guy up". We laughed all the more :rofl And mind you, I'm not just saying he could hit 12k on Hodir only.

There is some rumor that in cataclysm CC will be making a little bit of a come back, so we'll see then.

Redshirt #24
05-02-10, 09:40 PM
I don't so much mind frost emblems in Heroics. My scorn is reserved for the folks who wander into VoA, kill only two bosses, and then poof...can't help it, that one bugs the hell out of me.

Son Goku
05-03-10, 02:26 AM
I think the reason many do that; is people don't care about tier 7 or 8 anymore. Pretty much it comes down to tier 9 being purchasable by emblems which can be farmed in heroics. Now 25 man t9 isn't, so that would still pose an upgrade, even to pre-raid chars who had only hit 5 mans so far.

Actually, unless Blizzard has stronger quest rewards comming out in Cataclysm, I see an interesting thing comming. Basically it amounts to this. HFP quest greens were a fair upgrade over classic gear. People were replacing their raid gear with them, and some complained.

So the result was that Howling and Borean quest rewards were utterly pathetic. TBH, I don't really bother doing the questson alts for gear anymore. I'd rather just join up with achievement runs through TBC raids, and if lucky get some of the gear out of BT, Hyjal, etc. I really can't be bothered questing for such week rewards this last expansion provided, and tbh with already 4 80s, and way more 70s (from the last expansion then I'd care to count) I'm kinda bored questing in general anyhow. I'm not far off from lore master and the 3,000 quest achievement on one of those 80s anyhow. Now throw a PvP realm into the mix; ya know, getting ganked doing quests I'm bored of already, for rather week rewards that can't even measure up to kara level gear is bleh. And when guildies or even PuGs go after a kara achi (if they even need it, well DKs can); they're typically doing a 2 or 3 man gold run anyhow; as simply put they don't need more to clear it now.

So where does this leave things in Cataclysm? Well one can farm heroics for straight out tier 9 and iLvl 232 epic gear. What one can't get there, they can get through ICC 5 mans. I well imagine that if Cata greens aren't stronger people with their alts will skip the nub zones altogether, lvl farming WotLK 5 man heroics, use the emblems to buy t9; and won't bother touching the new content till after they have it.

Many people, and I'm comming closer and closer to that, have taken to questing less and lvling through instances rather more; after having had so many lvled chars anyhow. Dailies too have lost some interest due to, well again there's only so many days one can do the exact same quest before it's like "next" :lol2:

Fathertime36
05-11-10, 01:52 PM
Have to agree with how easy things are now, not complaining though, when I got bored with my mains rogue/war/hunter who were all geared out in BIS when nax 25 man was the cap raid I quite for about 2 months came back and I was able to level a druid in about 2 weeks casually, and gear it in both feral and resto t9 in about 3weeks of running the **** out of heroics and raids....then I was bored again...and quite again...tried aion what a ****ing joke that was...**** is reduntant I may or may not return again IDK!

Smee
05-27-10, 01:20 AM
Anyone have interest in a 80 Mage 80 DK account with 90,000 gold?

Neither have been played in ages, so gear score is pretty bad (4000ish)

If your interested, PM me.
I can provide excellent Ebay feedback. :)

Smee
06-29-10, 09:51 AM
LOL, I sold my account and almost 100k gold for $200
Does anyone still play the game actually? I lost all interest when people were leveling new toons to 80 and a 5000+ GS in under a week.. They ruined this game with their easy mode BS IMO.

I sold my Everquest Enchanter for $2700 at the tail end of that games popularity. :captnkill:

Ninjaman09
06-29-10, 04:01 PM
LOL, I sold my account and almost 100k gold for $200
Does anyone still play the game actually? I lost all interest when people were leveling new toons to 80 and a 5000+ GS in under a week.. They ruined this game with their easy mode BS IMO.

I sold my Everquest Enchanter for $2700 at the tail end of that games popularity. :captnkill:

Yeah I still play all the time. I'll never understand you whiners. Good riddance, the community is better off.

sammy sung
06-30-10, 05:47 AM
Yeah I still play all the time. I'll never understand you whiners. Good riddance, the community is better off.

They like to see themselves as purists,as some sort of elite "vanilla" pioneers but forget that this game would never have gotten it's huge userbase if blizzard didn't expand the game and make it friendlier for newcomers.Sure,some changes are not that welcome,when i started in late 07 you could buy level 70 pvp weapons for BG marks/honor but they removed that at 80.Since my main interest in this game was battlegrounds at that time,not arena it was impossible to get weapons above item level 200 anymore.What kept me playing was the dungeon tool,playing hc's outside guilds used to be a pain,finding groups,getting there etc but now it's so much better.Leveling up to 80 and 5k gs within a week is bull****,only a retard would attempt doing so.

spajdr
06-30-10, 06:34 AM
Well you cant please everyone, im happy with WoW for now. Playing it over 3D Vision, just finished achievement for The Seeker title and going to start some pvp action :-)

Smee
06-30-10, 11:28 AM
Yeah I still play all the time. I'll never understand you whiners. Good riddance, the community is better off.

When did I whine?
I asked a serious question "does anyone here still play this game"?
The question was posed because this thread hadn't seen any action in weeks.

Then I stated why I no longer cared for it personally.
I wasn't knocking anyone who still plays it.

Roliath
07-06-10, 04:24 AM
I play off/on, i'm working on getting both toons to 80.
I have a 74 Undead DK and I have a 64 BE Rogue with around 10k worth of BoE epics thanks to a friend who recently left the game. Gold is surprisingly easy to get now, i'm sitting on 12.6k on my DK, and around 8k on my rogue. All from leveling/instances...

I do want to join a guild and start raiding when i hit 80, only I doubt i'll stay on stormreaver.

Tyr-Sog
08-17-10, 10:06 AM
Reactivated my account about a week 1/2 ago :headexplode: Just bored...

Haven't played any of my 80's, just been leveling my mage(3rd mage, first 2 I had at launch I sold). Mage is back to being a glass canon. A lot of fun and they feel more like they did at launch. They tweaked leveling, now it's so fast now. When I reactivated it was WSG weekend and I was getting so much exp per win(and we kept winning). It was like 3 wins equaled a lvl.

Getting a bit bored of it again though..Probably won't renew the month.lol

lIqUID
11-21-10, 02:22 PM
I wouldn't level anything right now until they put the shattering on live servers. I've been playing the ptr on a premade, and leveled a couple toons to check out some of the new quests, and it's like a completely different game for some races. I probably mentioned int his thread the game sucked and I would never go back, but I'll be there on December 7th with my goblin toon.

Yaboze
11-24-10, 08:33 AM
4.0.3a is live and the new world is amazing! I can't wait to do a little exploring at all the cataclysmic changes to the old world. I did quick run around last night. Some highlights: Westfall, Western Plaguelands, The Barrens, Ashenvale.

WeReWoLf
12-01-10, 05:24 PM
So much has changed! I've yet to explore everywhere, but so much looks so good!

v3rninater
12-01-10, 08:09 PM
Honestly, I like the changes, before you had to deal with stupid guild crap, now almost any guild can get epics, that's the way it should be. But if you want unique crap that's just a smidge better then reg. epics, then join a big grinder guild. But this bs of "vanilla pioneers" I was one of them, had a lvl 20 rogue in Open Beta before release. All that bullcrap is NOT what it was cracked up to be. I left WOW because those "vanilla whiner pioneer morons" pissed me off so bad, their ego centric bull is the reason why many people wouldn't play wow.

It was the best decision for MOST people, and for Blizzard business wise to make it ez on most people. It still really isn't THAT ez either, so people who "show off" and talk junk about how it's so ez and ruined the game. WELL most of us have a freakin life, so get over it, this game is too good for most of them stupid "pioneer" people anyway. Why ruin it for the other 98% of those who play just so that those morons can whine and hold it over everyone else.

If you are some stupid elitist, SHUT UP and GET OVER IT, the game actually makes a lot more sense now. If you want to be elitist go play some Korean MMO and grind till you are 65 just to hold that over everyone's head.

Sorry, I'm just sick of it...so many things were ruined in WOW because of people like this...So dumb, so dumb, so dumb, SOOooo.. they climbin in yo windows.... blah...

Yaboze
12-02-10, 01:41 PM
Well, with the new changes it's going to be harder to get epics again. You'll need raids to get purples, 5 mans and stuff at 85 will produce blues only.

This is just like Old Vanilla WoW.

You can do 5 mans and Rep stuff now in LK at 80 and get some epics. That is not the case going forward.

CaptnStubing
12-02-10, 04:43 PM
Honestly, I like the changes, before you had to deal with stupid guild crap, now almost any guild can get epics, that's the way it should be. But if you want unique crap that's just a smidge better then reg. epics, then join a big grinder guild. But this bs of "vanilla pioneers" I was one of them, had a lvl 20 rogue in Open Beta before release. All that bullcrap is NOT what it was cracked up to be. I left WOW because those "vanilla whiner pioneer morons" pissed me off so bad, their ego centric bull is the reason why many people wouldn't play wow.

It was the best decision for MOST people, and for Blizzard business wise to make it ez on most people. It still really isn't THAT ez either, so people who "show off" and talk junk about how it's so ez and ruined the game. WELL most of us have a freakin life, so get over it, this game is too good for most of them stupid "pioneer" people anyway. Why ruin it for the other 98% of those who play just so that those morons can whine and hold it over everyone else.

If you are some stupid elitist, SHUT UP and GET OVER IT, the game actually makes a lot more sense now. If you want to be elitist go play some Korean MMO and grind till you are 65 just to hold that over everyone's head.

Sorry, I'm just sick of it...so many things were ruined in WOW because of people like this...So dumb, so dumb, so dumb, SOOooo.. they climbin in yo windows.... blah...

I liked it better when epics were hard to get. I was never in a big mega guild but the few epics I got was kinda cool. Right now epics are like blues and there is no epic level gear.

WoW is easy and always has been easy. This is why I am for the most part a PVPer. After the adventure of leveling I like the commpetition of other players rather than grinding for gear.

ATOJAR
12-09-10, 05:27 PM
On a pvp realm can you only pvp against somebody of the opposing faction?

ASUSEN7900GTX
12-13-10, 11:38 AM
SPOILER WARNING

i am a noob in WOw and i am at a mission with the bravo company at red ridge something.
AND i canīt find the Blackrock tower anywhere. I found the munitions hut and place a charge, but the tower nex to the munitions hut isnīt the "tower" where is it then?

Yaboze
12-14-10, 10:51 AM
It's on the eastern end of the lake, that area.

Yaboze
12-14-10, 10:52 AM
On a pvp realm can you only pvp against somebody of the opposing faction?

Yep, it's not FFA.

You are always flagged for PvP, except in a few Sanctuary spots, like Dalaran/Shattrath I believe.

You can get ganked in your own home city and in every levelling area.

sammy sung
12-14-10, 11:59 AM
Yep, it's not FFA.

You are always flagged for PvP, except in a few Sanctuary spots, like Dalaran/Shattrath I believe.

You can get ganked in your own home city and in every levelling area.

Not true,you can only get ganked in contested territories.If you are horde on horde territory or alliance on ally soil you can only be attacked after you attack them first..They will be yellow to you and while you can attack them they can NOT attack you,same in the faction capitals.On contested territory though you are correct,they can and will gank the crap outta you,doesn't really matter than blizz changed it so players below level 10 doesn't give honor (like that stopped anyone to begin with...) Some quests with a pvp tag on them gets you pvp flagged though even on your own factions soil,check your portrait,if you have a horde/alliance logo under it youre pvp flagged.If you are on non contested territoty you can just log out and back in to remove it.