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OsirisOrion
03-05-05, 03:34 AM
Hello all

I'm currently going to upgrade my cpu to an AMD XP 3000+ (333mhz fsb). I was wondering if i should get a 6800GT or 6600GT? My only concern is that my cpu is going to be a serious bottleneck, or am i just worrying for nothing and go for the 6800GT?

Also would the BFG OC cards be complete overkill for me to buy? I dont overclock and really dont plan to... thanks for any help ^_^

MUYA
03-05-05, 03:39 AM
Depends on how you like to game. If u want to game with AA and AF on at high resolutions, go for the GeForce 6800GT. If not, the 6600GT is your choice. I have a Athlon XP 3200+ and a 6800 Ultra. It was worth it but now I have upgraded to a FX53.
I usually gamed at 1024 or 1280 on the old AthlonXP with 4X AA and 8X AF. It was fantastic.

http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/leadtek_6800_ultra/index.shtml

If however AA and AF are not important as much then I suggest the 6600GT which is still no slouch with AA and AF on some games.

OsirisOrion
03-05-05, 03:47 AM
thanks for the reply.

I mostly play mmo's alot ( currently playing lineage2 ) but i got a whole ton of fps games and like to play those around 1280X1024 / 1600X1200. Lineage2 i play at 1280X1024. I dont use AA or AAF, cause when i have tried to use it on my current set-up it has bogged down my system somewhat.

I should of mentioned also i got a Dell p1130 23inch CRT monitor and my desktop is set up at 1600X1200

I think im gonna go for the 6800GT, just want to get a few peoples opinions first

MUYA
03-05-05, 03:50 AM
Big resolutions, AA and AF....definately need a 4 quad GPU like a 6800 GT which also has 256 bit memory interface thus giving huge bandwidth in t erms of memory allowing for fast MSAA.

With the 6800 GT you will notice the quality difference when u enable AA and AF :)

You could ask Chrisray here who plays a lot of online games and has 6600GT and 6800GT..although on different systems.

ChrisRay
03-05-05, 04:18 AM
A Single 6600GT can usually muster 1280x1024 without AA. In Lineage 2 I am sure you could probably get away with 1600x1200 with noAA/16xAF in Lineage 2. I think EQ 2 is the only game you may have a little trouble with pushing those resolutions.

That being said. If you really desire 1280x1024 + gaming with 4xAA/16xAF you will really want a 6800GT as a single 6600GT wont be enough for settings beyond that. If 2xAA @ such resolutions is what you crave. A 6600GT will fill your role nicely.

Nexnecis
03-05-05, 06:18 AM
6800gt. Like CR said, you'll be able to push AA/AF higher with that card.

bkswaney
03-06-05, 12:24 AM
Yep.... 6800GT is your best bet.
That's what I have in my rig. ;)

Or if you can find one the ATI X800XL is
a fine card to for the $. :)

jAkUp
03-06-05, 01:34 AM
6800gt! It will help for the upcoming games even with no AA/AF(some are extremely GPU intensive)

OsirisOrion
03-06-05, 02:16 AM
thanks everyone for your replies

and looks like im going for a 6800GT :D

smthmlk.
03-06-05, 05:30 AM
get a bottle of quality scotch and forget about tomorrow.

Acid Rain
03-06-05, 08:51 PM
Many of the newer games bottleneck at your graphics card more than your CPU, assuming it's decent, as an XP 3000 is, and assuming that you run at high graphics settings, as you've stated you do.

I am still only using an XP 2500, and yet, coming up from a 9800 Pro, my 3D performance has increased tremendously, often even doubling my previous.

I do still have an obvious CPU bottleneck in the AI intensive UT 2004, however. Even that runs much better on the new card, though.

I'd get a 6800 GT. Enjoy your new setup!

$n][pErMan
03-06-05, 09:06 PM
Go for a 6800GT ... no question. Im using an OC'ed XP2800 (and not by that much) and all my games run great :D Im sure once I go 64bit I will notice even better gameplay (even though now I have 0 complaints as everything runs great). So go with the GT as it will last you longer and you will enjoy what you get out of it as I would aurgue they are the best cards out as you can even OC most to ultra with little effort and 99.99% safely :)

jAkUp
03-06-05, 09:10 PM
Yes I agree, the 6800gt is one of the best cards for the money that I have ever seen. Although the x800xl is awesome too. Even the 6800 Vanilly is fantastic.

toxikneedle
03-06-05, 10:06 PM
If you have the money to spend, get the 6800. I wouldn't recommend getting a 6600 just because you think a 6800 might bottleneck. If money is an issue though, a 6600 is a great value for its money.

TeaEtchSee
03-07-05, 08:52 AM
Hello all

I'm currently going to upgrade my cpu to an AMD XP 3000+ (333mhz fsb). I was wondering if i should get a 6800GT or 6600GT? My only concern is that my cpu is going to be a serious bottleneck, or am i just worrying for nothing and go for the 6800GT?

Also would the BFG OC cards be complete overkill for me to buy? I dont overclock and really dont plan to... thanks for any help ^_^


now that PCI-x is takin storm, prices on processors will drop for certain sockets..

go with the 6800gt and upgrade your processor later so u wont bottleneck..

MUYA
03-07-05, 05:55 PM
PCI-E ;) not pci-x :D

MustangSVT
03-07-05, 10:49 PM
I think a 6800nu would suit you better. You really don't have the CPU power to take advantage of a 6800GT.

If you had a NF2 mobo, I'd of said get a XP-M 2500+ or XP-M 2600+. Seeing as you have a KT400 or KT400A, whichever it is, it most likely doesn't have AGP/PCI locks in which case you wouldn't really be able to make use of a XP-M 2500+ and OC it to like 2.4-2.5GHz with a 200-215MHz FSB.

My second opinion is that maybe you should consider saving your money, and saving up for a PCI-E system. $100 for a Chaintech VNF4, $150 for A64 3000+ S939 and $272 for an X800XL with the CompUSA deal. In fact, why don't you just get that. It's $522 total. What's the price that you would pay for an Athlon XP 3000+ and 6800 GT? Around that price, correct? A S939 3000+ and X800XL will woop an Athlon XP and 6800GT anyday IMO. That's what I think you should do.

Anyone else agree with me here? I mean come, let's say he OC's that 3000+ to like 2.2GHz, and the X800XL to like 450/1100, his computer would be faster than he'd ever dream with an Athlon XP and ANY video card.

jAkUp
03-07-05, 11:16 PM
I don't think a 6800NU would be a good option, mainly because most of them are only 128mb cards, and with the new 512mb cards just announced, 128mb for games will soon just not cut it. Games will very soon be taking advantage of the extra texture memory that 256mb and 512mb cards allow.

Also, the extra 4 pipes can come in handy with the games of tommorrow, and if you apply any AA/AF. Hell have you tried the latest Splinter Cell demo? Looks amazing but lags like hell on my buds 6800GT.

1337_Like_ThaT
03-07-05, 11:55 PM
Man, what are you thinking.????!!!! 6800GT!!!!!!1111 one one :banghead:

MustangSVT
03-08-05, 06:23 PM
I don't think a 6800NU would be a good option
Ever realized there's a big price difference? You could get a new 6800nu for $250, whereas a 6800GT is around $390-$400.

Anyway, like I said previously, for the same money he would pay for a 3000+ Athlon XP and 6800GT, he can get a brand new PCI-E system with an Athlon 64 that would spank the Athlon XP paired with any video card.