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zer0
03-11-05, 04:53 AM
is it spyware? or can spywares attach themselves on it?

jAkUp
03-11-05, 05:04 AM
Never heard of of it yet, although, there is a service pack for the .NET framework out.

retsam
03-11-05, 05:57 AM
why are you asking about the framework did something come up in a scanner that says its spywate?


i did hear there was spyware out there that was downloading the whole 90meg file so that it could run ... it would even install the .net frame work without you knowing its doing it ... but the framework it self is not spyware

Clay
03-11-05, 09:53 AM
why are you asking about the framework did something come up in a scanner that says its spywate?


i did hear there was spyware out there that was downloading the whole 90meg file so that it could run ... it would even install the .net frame work without you knowing its doing it ... but the framework it self is not spyware
QFT

jolle
03-11-05, 11:23 AM
I guess its like downloading the Flash plugin to run Flash content..
or Java plugin to run Java.

Its what its called, a Framework so windows can run applications written in .NET which I understand is alot easier for developers to do, developing in .NET..
Just to make sure you should get it from MS site or Windows Update, and there is no reason to install it unless you have a application that requires it..

peeon
03-11-05, 11:51 AM
Microsoft .NET Framework is for .NET programs to run on a Windows machine. Without it , the .NET program cannot run.

"The .NET Framework version 1.1 provides improved scalability and performance, support for mobile device development with ASP.NET mobile controls (formerly the Microsoft Mobile Internet Toolkit), support for Internet Protocol version 6, and ADO.NET classes for native communication with Open Database Connectivity (ODBC) and Oracle databases. It also enables the use of code access security to further lock down and isolate ASP.NET applications. For more information, read the .NET Framework Version 1.1 Product Overview."

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3&displaylang=en

Blacklash
03-11-05, 02:17 PM
Try the 2.0 beta with the 1.1. I like it with the CCC.

Rakeesh
03-11-05, 03:50 PM
Like jolle said, you should only install the .net framework if a program you want to run requires it. In my personal oppinion, .net is a waste.

Clay
03-11-05, 04:01 PM
In my personal oppinion, .net is a waste.Why's that? Are you a J2EE developer? :D

superklye
03-11-05, 04:04 PM
ewww Java. :barf:

Rakeesh
03-11-05, 04:17 PM
Why's that? Are you a J2EE developer? :D

No, I just don't see any point given with whats available. And it is getting a bit rediculous seeing that there are already too many bloatish microsoft runtime libraries to keep track of.

Clay
03-11-05, 04:29 PM
No, I just don't see any point given with whats available. And it is getting a bit rediculous seeing that there are already too many bloatish microsoft runtime libraries to keep track of.
Well I've never spent much time with J2EE or many other development platforms outside of Microsoft really. One of my co-workers did do a great deal of J2EE development though and he's thrilled with VS.NET now as it is much more refined and efficient dev environment than the J2EE offereings according to him.

superklye
03-11-05, 09:22 PM
Well I've never spent much time with J2EE or many other development platforms outside of Microsoft really. One of my co-workers did do a great deal of J2EE development though and he's thrilled with VS.NET now as it is much more refined and efficient dev environment than the J2EE offereings according to him.
Java is not an easy language to program. In fact: it sucks.

Command line my ass.

Rakeesh
03-11-05, 10:02 PM
Well, another thing I get annoyed with is anytime you want to do a mundane task in a script form, there are always wildly varying libraries with each having its own set of pros/cons that you have to keep track of when it comes to microsoft software. I guess I am more used to unix where even the most generic (or even embedded) environments already include everything you need if you are doing any hacking (and honestly, you can't get much simpler than bash.)

I just got done recovering from a failed hard disk, and I already had to download a common control library, and separate runtimes for visual basic 5 and 6. Then here comes other software that requires you to install .net as well.

Java does have one advantage though, it'll run on pretty much every platform out there, including embedded ones. I doubt that will ever be true for .net.

Clay
03-11-05, 10:50 PM
Java's not without its quirks. .NET does have room for improvement and I'm sure it will. Regarding embedded systems, I've not much experience or need with them but there is the .NET Compact Framework (more info (http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/default.aspx). Java has a nice head start though that's for sure. Competition is always good, just look at C# which is basically a better Java language IMO. ;)

Greg
03-11-05, 11:09 PM
Don't be afraid of .Net Framework. It is just a bunch of .dlls that contain the run time code for the Framework API (successor of MFC, Win32 and others) as well as the ability to run CLI JIT compiled code. It's all good. Any security issues will be fixed over time. If you're running WinXP SP2, you probably already have .Net 1.1. If not, you will be getting it soon, unless you don't plan to run any different programs in the future, or upgrade your drivers.

Rakeesh
03-12-05, 01:08 AM
Java's not without its quirks. .NET does have room for improvement and I'm sure it will. Regarding embedded systems, I've not much experience or need with them but there is the .NET Compact Framework (more info (http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/default.aspx). Java has a nice head start though that's for sure. Competition is always good, just look at C# which is basically a better Java language IMO. ;)

I dunno, most embedded systems don't use win CE simply because it is so expensive, therefore I can't really see them using .net, even if it is available.