AQ Khan's nuclear sales

[Sazar]

I'll try this again...

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=571116

In a rare admission, Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed on Thursday said Abdul Qadeer Khan sold the centrifuges to Tehran but insisted that the government was not aware of his activities.

"Dr. Abdul Qadeer gave some centrifuges to Iran," Ahmed told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. "He helped Iran in his personal capacity, and the Pakistan government had nothing to do with it."

It was the first time a politician from either Iran or Pakistan publicly admitted the transfer of centrifuges, which could be used in making an atomic bomb.

On Friday, opposition lawmakers said Ahmed's remarks were highly irresponsible and could create problems for the nation. They called for a debate on the matter, but National Assembly Speaker Chaudhry Ameer Hussain rejected the request.

Dozens of angry lawmakers continued shouting their remarks over the speaker's objection, then walked out.



AQ khan's touch with the nuclear wal-mart seems to have definitely been extended to iran... confirmations in the news yesterday and today about centrifuges sold to iran through his network...

pakistani officials obviously continue to deny they knew anything at all about any of these dealings and still will not let foreign parties interogate their "hero"

[DiscipleDOC]

Let me ask you this: Do you think that Khan sold some of this stuff to Iraq? If everyone in the ME is getting nukes, I think it would be a safe conclusion that Iraq had them as well....

[Sazar]

why?

there is no proof of any sales and not every nation in the ME was seeking to get nukes...

we know he TRIED to sell it to iraq... but no documentation we have seen shows anything indicating a purchase, and we have seen no indication of any infrastructure development proving any such transaction took place or bore fruition in any capacity...

duelfer and kay's reports also make no mention of this whatsoever, stating that saddam's nuclear ambitions, while not gone had certainly been put on the back burner post 1991...

the reason I had linked this to the thread "re-surrection" if you will was so that this very question would be shot down immediately via the audio interview linked...

naturally I am open to revising my stance based on proof and for that I would love for AQ khan to give a full briefing on all his activities during what pakistani officials call his rogue days...

as is iran did not acquire nukes... they acquired centrifuges... still leaves them with a fair deal of work to do but it perturbs me that AQ khan has yet to be interrogated by foreign authorities, and that he is being shielded still by a nation we call our ally...

a plethora of contradictions exist in this situation and I for one would love to hear a little more about it from the instigator of all these actions...

[oldsk00l]

There is no real documentation about the millions of illegal aliens working in the US too, well...since there is no documentation I guess they don't exist and aren't working here.

I see your reasoning real clearly now, use what you want in your favor. Fact is there was an existing network of equipments, knowledge, and distribution for the purpose of weaponizing nuclear material and/or nuclear material itself. There is an equal probability of distribution between all the nations in the network, however intent and predisposition you can narrow down greatly.

That arguement is pretty weak that "oh well there's no documentation". Hmmm, ok, so before we do anything to prevent the next 9/11 we should wait for documentation on that too eh?

The only reasonable point you've made is that Pakistan sucks, and needs to turn over certain individuals to maintain a positive diplomacy. However arguing about proof is really moot.

[UDawg]

You guys are not going to get what you want out of this. I brought up the serious and credible issue that Saddam exported his scientists to Lybia and was developing weapons there. This was founnd out by the US and the reason why we leaned on the heavily behind the scenes to get them to cooperate with us. Khadafi didn't change his mind. he had his mind changed by the US. Yet I broutht that up and it was totally ignored by the leftist here. Yet we had the other thread that was closed and saz saying we are ignoring it.

The truth is they BOTH are important and shold be watched.

[Sazar]

I think I am simply going to ask nutty to close this thread as well since no one cares one iota about the issue at hand and simply is seeking to dig up more b.s. about saddam and links...

I had hoped for a little more discussion of SOME manner about the new developments and the fact that the UN and US are now offering renewed incentives to iran...

we all have our stances on iraq... THIS topic has nothing to do with iraq...

thanks for playing along people :)

pm has been submitted for closure...

[oldsk00l]

cool, can't wait until this crap is closed anyway

maybe you'll give it up

[Nutty]

Closed by request