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nrs421
03-16-05, 08:31 AM
what is bush thinking??

CybrSage
03-16-05, 08:33 AM
Link Please.

Thanks!

nrs421
03-16-05, 08:39 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/16/news/international/world_bank/index.htm?cnn=yes

CybrSage
03-16-05, 10:21 AM
I suppose Bush is thinking that he would make a good president of the World Bank.

Why do you think he would not be?

Ninjaman09
03-16-05, 10:47 AM
Yeah I'm not sure I understand why he'd be a bad candidate.

saturnotaku
03-16-05, 10:51 AM
'cuz da u-ropeeins sez so!

Sazar
03-16-05, 11:12 AM
Yeah I'm not sure I understand why he'd be a bad candidate.

Because of his f*ck-ups with policy and planning in Iraq. Wolfowitz and Feith are birds of a feather and their resume looks good on paper, but their actual experiences and actions tell a different story.

Further read in the link about the actions of McNamara. Given the policies we have employed over the past 3 odd years, there is no indication that Wolfowitz would not follow a similar policy of simply chanelling funds based not on need, but support for idealogy.

If Wolfowitz did not have a history of doing just that in his rhetoric and actions, people would be less concerned.

Ninjaman09
03-16-05, 11:30 AM
Well I haven't kept myself as informed on his actions as you have, so I'll just bow out of this one since I probably don't know what I'm talking about.

UDawg
03-16-05, 12:23 PM
Because of his f*ck-ups with policy and planning in Iraq. Wolfowitz and Feith are birds of a feather and their resume looks good on paper, but their actual experiences and actions tell a different story.

Further read in the link about the actions of McNamara. Given the policies we have employed over the past 3 odd years, there is no indication that Wolfowitz would not follow a similar policy of simply chanelling funds based not on need, but support for idealogy.

If Wolfowitz did not have a history of doing just that in his rhetoric and actions, people would be less concerned.
Hey! a Liberal that hates Wolfowitz... how, odd...


Yeah Iraq is pretty bad right now. /rolls his eyes. Looks to me and the rest of teh world that the policy is WORKING! What we had for the last year was liberals crying about how hard it is and keeping a body count tally on Time Square's marque. The fact is things are a lot better there and getting better. You guys just wanted it to fail and I have proven that in another thread. So stop with this lie that Iraq is a failure. THEY HAD A VOTE! and a lot sooner than Japan did.

oldsk00l
03-16-05, 12:38 PM
I agree, given that it's a WARZONE, it is kinda difficult to have great execution. The Japanese at the time probably hated us more than the muslims too.

zakelwe
03-16-05, 02:58 PM
Yeah I'm not sure I understand why he'd be a bad candidate.

Let me put it this way

I work for a bank.

If I suggested my CEO became the USA defence secretary would you think it a good idea ? Why not , he's good at lending money and making money !

Maybe you think it's not relevant ?

Now this guy is suggested as the next head of the world bank . He's good at military and defence matters, maybe that is not relevant ?

What experience has he got of working with financial instituations for a start ?

Regards

Andy

KerrAvon
03-16-05, 03:41 PM
Hey! a Liberal that hates Wolfowitz... how, odd...


Yeah Iraq is pretty bad right now. /rolls his eyes. Looks to me and the rest of teh world that the policy is WORKING! What we had for the last year was liberals crying about how hard it is and keeping a body count tally on Time Square's marque. The fact is things are a lot better there and getting better. You guys just wanted it to fail and I have proven that in another thread. So stop with this lie that Iraq is a failure. THEY HAD A VOTE! and a lot sooner than Japan did.

But the vote was only a prepatory move for the real work that's still to be done. Just because they voted doesn't mean they're the US part two.

KerrAvon
03-16-05, 03:42 PM
Let me put it this way

I work for a bank.

If I suggested my CEO became the USA defence secretary would you think it a good idea ? Why not , he's good at lending money and making money !

Maybe you think it's not relevant ?

Now this guy is suggested as the next head of the world bank . He's good at military and defence matters, maybe that is not relevant ?

What experience has he got of working with financial instituations for a start ?

Regards

Andy

Excellent point. Why is this person so much more qualified than any other to attain this position? There have to be more qualified people that have had financial experience that would be a better fit for the job.

UDawg
03-16-05, 03:45 PM
But the vote was only a prepatory move for the real work that's still to be done. Just because they voted doesn't mean they're the US part two.
We are not trying to make them a "US part two" secondly why are you trying to down-play what people DIED to make happen? To me that is a increadible insult. People wer blown up because they wanted to vote, not to mention the service men and women who died to make this vote possible. This vote was a HUGE deal only in liberal circles is it not a big deal.

Riptide
03-16-05, 06:29 PM
Wolfowitz does seem like an odd choice at first but since I haven't seen his resume I'm not sure I'm ready to say he's not qualified for the job.

Sazar
03-16-05, 11:21 PM
Wolfowitz's decisions in his capacity as one of the liasons for the Iraq war are open for everyone to see. Once he was removed as one of the key contributors towards policy making, there was a turn-around in the fortunes of our troops and policies on the ground.

As I said, his resume may look great because of the number of places he has been in, but his decision making is indeed suspect and if he is going to bring the same level of decisions making as McNamara. This not a simple or obscure segue to be dismissed because there are a lot of similarities in the persona's and their policies and anyone who remembers McNamara will know about his decision making.

We have more qualified and knowledgeable individuals in the White House who can do the job a heck of a lot better than Wolfowitz.

sytaylor
03-17-05, 03:32 AM
I'm not a Wolfwitz fan, I think he's one of the more extreme fringes of the White House, who is extremley idealisitic. This strikes a chord with many but is impractical when it comes to the reality of negotiation and progress. I can think of far better candidates for the world bank, and certainly far FAR less political agenda suiting candidates.

CybrSage
03-17-05, 10:03 AM
Isn't this largely a political position, not a technical position?

Sorta like a Prime Minister or President of a nation. They make the final desicions, but mostly play politics and listen to the smart people around them (who make much less money than they do).

Ninjaman09
03-17-05, 10:06 AM
Isn't this largely a political position, not a technical position?

Sorta like a Prime Minister or President of a nation. They make the final desicions, but mostly play politics and listen to the smart people around them (who make much less money than they do).
Yes it is, and that's why I was wondering why he'd be such a bad candidate. I think people are a little misguided if they think this guy's going to be doing any actual banking work. :)

But like I said I'm not too familiar with the guy's track record so...eh.

CybrSage
03-17-05, 10:13 AM
Either am I...but if France and Russia do not want him there it usually means I should be for it by default...since both those governments have my worst interest in mind...