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Mith192
03-23-05, 08:11 PM
I am currently looking at upgrading to 64bit

What socket 939 proccesor will give me the most for my money

PaiN
03-23-05, 08:25 PM
I think most people would say go for a low cost A64(+3000 or +3200) and OC.....but I have to tell ya this A64 4000+ with its 1mb of L2 has got serious punch and is lowest priced 1mb L2 core you can get.

Mith192
03-23-05, 08:36 PM
Also do you know if I can use SATA1 in a SATA2 port

Blacklash
03-23-05, 08:54 PM
4000 with very tight timings/low level settings is excellent. I love mine.

That being said even a stock 3500 Winchester is a good chip for the money, and if you OC you are even more likely to pass 2.6 IMO. Yes I know some guys have got wicked OCs with 3000s and I wouldn't bank on it.

I say get the 3500 Winchester, a thermalright XP-90, Panaflo M1A fan, and artic silver 5 to shoot for 2.5-2.7.

As far as the SATA goes I do not know why it would not be backward compatible. Someone can correct me if I am wrong.

There's your chip:

http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/details.asp?PRDCODE=CPAM-R643500BI&REFID=PW

And there's your HSF. Don't forget the "tail" with the "recommended" M1A Panaflo fan, also tick arctic silver 5:

http://www.frozencpu.com/cpu-tri-13.html

PaiN
03-23-05, 09:12 PM
SATA1 or 2 support will be based on what motheboard is used, I don't believe it is dependenty on the CPU
With an A64 you'll need to get an nForce4 based board to get SATA2

zoomy942
03-23-05, 09:13 PM
athlon 3500+ all the way.

saturnotaku
03-23-05, 09:18 PM
Even my "older" NewCastle-cored 3500+ has tons of life left in it. With this processor around the $260 mark, it's by far the best value for the money especially if you don't plan to go crazy on the overclocking.

Blacklash
03-23-05, 09:24 PM
*chuckles*

I guess I misunderstood his SATA question. I thought he was referring to older hard disks that barely benefit from SATA I.

For example, I do not believe my WD raptors would benefit from SATA II yet would work with it. Most people get an average sustained read of 51mb/s regardless.

I suppose I'll tackle new hard drives and SATA II when I move to multi-GPU as well.

There's one SATA II drive out now.

http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/483/hitachi_unveils_500gb

zoomy942
03-23-05, 09:29 PM
saturn has a great point

http://www.chiefvalue.com/app/productdetails.asp?submit=search&item=19-103-494

Blacklash
03-23-05, 09:34 PM
saturn has a great point

http://www.chiefvalue.com/app/productdetails.asp?submit=search&item=19-103-494

Yes I saw that price and linked over to the higher futurepower one because I have dealt with them. I don't always point to lowest price if I haven't dealt with the merchant.

I would have suggested Newegg, however they have the same chip well over 300usd.

zoomy942
03-23-05, 09:45 PM
i agree. i felt bad not using the Egg, but i ordered my 3500 this morning, and it shipped a few hours later.

saturnotaku
03-23-05, 09:49 PM
The retail 3500+ is $267 at Zipzoomfly and that includes free 2nd Day Air.

zoomy942
03-23-05, 09:58 PM
The retail 3500+ is $267 at Zipzoomfly and that includes free 2nd Day Air.

yeah, but its listed as the newcastle. there's nothing wrong with newcastle.. but i am obsessive complusve about newer

Mith192
03-23-05, 10:25 PM
Iam finaly going to go 64 bit

and while i am at it i am going to upgrade to 1gb of ram and upgrade to SLI

Mith192
03-23-05, 10:35 PM
what kind of psu do i need for pci-e

Mith192
03-23-05, 11:14 PM
do u think this ram is compatibal with the A8N-SLI motherboard http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80097-16

jAkUp
03-23-05, 11:24 PM
That ram would work great with that board.

If your gonna pick up a 3500+, make sure its a 90nm winchester.. (BI) chip.

Mith192
03-23-05, 11:36 PM
is the $100 extra worth it for 90nm

bkswaney
03-23-05, 11:48 PM
is the $100 extra worth it for 90nm


If u r overclocking Yes it's worth every penny. ;)

Mith192
03-23-05, 11:53 PM
like what kind of difference are we talking about here when it comes to ocing

Mith192
03-24-05, 12:53 AM
Seriously how much better are the 90nm's than the 130nm's in terms of overclock ability

PSYCHODAD
03-24-05, 03:32 AM
what kind of psu do i need for pci-e

These are certified for an SLI system{Nvidia}. OCZ is good also.


Applications Profiles | Build an SLI System

CERTIFIED POWER SUPPLIES
Vendor Model Number
PC Power & Cooling, Turbo-CoolŪ 510 SLI (510ATX-PFC)
PC Power & Cooling, Turbo-CoolŪ 850 SLI (850ETX-PFC)
Silverstone ST65ZF

Mith192
03-24-05, 07:58 AM
So a Antec Truepower 430w wont work

zoomy942
03-24-05, 08:24 AM
i have changed to the 90nm, and i am never looking back. i'm not so much an overclocker as i am a nice cooled pc. i aircool, and the 90nm chips run noticeably cooler than the 130nm. the newcastle cores are by no means less capable cores. there are some newcastles that overclock like crazy, and some winchesters (90nm) that dont. i'll say this.. with winchester and newcastle, you are gonna have some overclocking ability.. but the winchester just gives you a slight edge in your chances for a overclockable chip. but like i said, they are both excellent cores.

Mith192
03-24-05, 10:03 AM
so would I be better off geting the cheaper 3200 winchester and ocing it than geting a 3500 new castle.