View Full Version : Prescott Overclocking - its not all bad :-)
Superfly
04-13-05, 10:46 AM
I have a 3.0Ghz Prescott on the Intel 865PE chipset and use Crucial Ballistix DDR400 memory.
amazingly this system will boot without issue into windows and run Prime95 without issue running @ FSB 1000 DDR500 (2.5-2-2-5) 3.74Ghz!! - air cooled with Zalman7700alcu. Annoyingly D3 is the only app that does'nt like those clocks (oh well).
3.4Ghz is very stable and still seems to be my sweet spot so I have settled here. The most impressive thing is the memory timings and speeds - I love my Ballistix :-)
Just wanted to share this with the group really - no reason other than to say yay it works!!
mustrum
04-13-05, 10:59 AM
The prescott is not bad but then again almost any 3000+ can be OCed to a point where it beats a P4EE @ 4Ghz while costing 120 bucks.
Optimummind
04-13-05, 12:13 PM
I have a 3.0Ghz Prescott on the Intel 865PE chipset and use Crucial Ballistix DDR400 memory.
amazingly this system will boot without issue into windows and run Prime95 without issue running @ FSB 1000 DDR500 (2.5-2-2-5) 3.74Ghz!! - air cooled with Zalman7700alcu. Annoyingly D3 is the only app that does'nt like those clocks (oh well).
3.4Ghz is very stable and still seems to be my sweet spot so I have settled here. The most impressive thing is the memory timings and speeds - I love my Ballistix :-)
Just wanted to share this with the group really - no reason other than to say yay it works!!
Yea, I like my Intel proc too. I need to buy some better overclocker RAM though before I can take my Prescott to higher speeds. Probably some PC4000 RAM.
darkrider01
04-13-05, 12:33 PM
My sig shows a decent Prescott overclock, but my RAM (mismatched PC2700) is really holding me back. Last night I ordered some fancy new Patriot DDR2-PC5600 (700MHz) and I'm hoping it'll take me to the upper reaches of the high 3+ GHz range. I love that Newegg. 1GB (2x512MB) of Patriot PC5600 is only $229. Fastest RAM I've seen anywhere and has pretty nice timings too. Nice to see RAM coming down again. DDR3 must be a couple weeks away.(throwpc)
1337_Like_ThaT
04-15-05, 08:23 PM
A buddy of mine owns the exact processor SuperFly has, but running on an Abit 865 max II with Corsair XMS XLL 2-2-2-5, and when running aggressive timings, he can hit 4.0ghz stable. All being cooled with a SP-94 & 92mm Tornado Fan. Presscott give very impressive OC's IMO, regardless of their heating issues.
yea, the prescott C0 was crappy overclockers, D0 was better, and E0 (socket 478) often hit close to 4 ghz, but it's hot, even for me in Canada.
I just grabbed 2 30 capper northwood 3.0C, will see how they fair out with my XP-90. I'm still deciding which ram I should keep: Corsair PC3500C2 BH5 or OCZ PC3700 EL Platinum Tccd?? I guess it'll depend on how high I can clock those.
Edit:
1337, that's a lot of Vcore you've pumped into your Northwood 3.4ghz man.
1337_Like_ThaT
04-15-05, 09:03 PM
yea, the prescott C0 was crappy overclockers, D0 was better, and E0 (socket 478) often hit close to 4 ghz, but it's hot, even for me in Canada.
I just grabbed 2 30 capper northwood 3.0C, will see how they fair out with my XP-90. I'm still deciding which ram I should keep: Corsair PC3500C2 BH5 or OCZ PC3700 EL Platinum Tccd?? I guess it'll depend on how high I can clock those.
Edit:
1337, that's a lot of Vcore you've pumped into your Northwood 3.4ghz man.
Ya, I know my Vcore is insane, but I upgraded from a 3.0c to my current 3.4c specifically to take the chip to the max, seeing what it can handle on air. I don't mind if I kill the chip, I was doing that to my previous 3.0c. I had that @1.725v until it little by little coulnd't handle such high frequencies. It would eventualy only be able to run stable @ 3.6ghz (1.70v) or anything less than that. Until I upgrade my setup completely, I'll be sticking to northwoods for now :) I really want to get a DangerDen Watercooling setup, and try to run my chip at 4ghz with a lower vCore. We'll see what happens, $400 later LOL
I used to run my 3.0 at 3.75 24/7. Never had any issues. I was also pumping 1.75v into that badboy :) What a fighter that chip was. hehe
Prescotts overclock well for the most part, as long as you can keep them cool. They run hotter than hell.
I Smell Fire..
I used to run 2.8e @ 3.4 initially, wen the temps touched 73 and it started throtlling, rebooting. after that even at 2.8 ghz, its temps were above 65*C. & fan speed was insanely high, 5500+ rpm. so it was time to say "GOODBYE"
Guys, you should try out some of the new 6xx series Prescott's.... I've just put together a SFF (XPC) system from some parts I had lieing around, and decided to try out a Shuttle with 915G chipset (because I had 2x PC3200 blocks doing nothing). Even in the SB81P model with no pci or pci-e locks, the cpu P4 640 (3.2 Ghz) runs 4 Ghz easily @ default voltage, and @ 1.4V I'm doing almost 4.2 Ghz.... in a Shuttle, with the heatpipe cooler and everything... :eek: :D
Now the chipset is the culprit for taking the system any further than 260 Mhz fsb, but the cpu is smoking, and not from heat either. When I crank up the speed of the fans I can get idle temps down to 38°C and keep full load @ 55°C... That's with a 1 Ghz overclock....on a notoriously bad overclocking chipset..... in a Shuttle..... I love it :D
Whenever I decide to upgrade my main system, I'm going to have to give this cpu a go in the Mach II GT :p
I picked up 2 30 capper 3.0Cs, one of them is SL6WK and the other is SL6WU. the WU should be a good OCer b/c the default Vcore is suppose to be like 1.475V cause the CPU is actually made for DTR laptops, I'll see how high I can crank those puppies. I'm getting a XP90 for cooling.
superklye
04-16-05, 04:00 PM
Guys, you should try out some of the new 6xx series Prescott's.... I've just put together a SFF (XPC) system from some parts I had lieing around, and decided to try out a Shuttle with 915G chipset (because I had 2x PC3200 blocks doing nothing). Even in the SB81P model with no pci or pci-e locks, the cpu P4 640 (3.2 Ghz) runs 4 Ghz easily @ default voltage, and @ 1.4V I'm doing almost 4.2 Ghz.... in a Shuttle, with the heatpipe cooler and everything... :eek: :D
Now the chipset is the culprit for taking the system any further than 260 Mhz fsb, but the cpu is smoking, and not from heat either. When I crank up the speed of the fans I can get idle temps down to 38°C and keep full load @ 55°C... That's with a 1 Ghz overclock....on a notoriously bad overclocking chipset..... in a Shuttle..... I love it :D
Whenever I decide to upgrade my main system, I'm going to have to give this cpu a go in the Mach II GT :p
That is pretty crazy man...but wow, is it awesome. :)
lostlilchild66
04-16-05, 04:17 PM
I have a 3.0Ghz Prescott on the Intel 865PE chipset and use Crucial Ballistix DDR400 memory.
amazingly this system will boot without issue into windows and run Prime95 without issue running @ FSB 1000 DDR500 (2.5-2-2-5) 3.74Ghz!! - air cooled with Zalman7700alcu. Annoyingly D3 is the only app that does'nt like those clocks (oh well).
3.4Ghz is very stable and still seems to be my sweet spot so I have settled here. The most impressive thing is the memory timings and speeds - I love my Ballistix :-)
Just wanted to share this with the group really - no reason other than to say yay it works!!
Yeah, that's pretty good ram, and that's one of the great things about TCCD.. high clock speeds, good timings and not a ton of voltage.
When I had my 3500+,I ran my 4 sticks of Corsair TCCD @ 520Mhz 2.5-2-3-6. I was, however, forced to run 2T, and that cost me alot of performance unfortunately :(
lostlilchild66
04-16-05, 04:19 PM
I used to run my 3.0 at 3.75 24/7. Never had any issues. I was also pumping 1.75v into that badboy :) What a fighter that chip was. hehe
Prescotts overclock well for the most part, as long as you can keep them cool. They run hotter than hell.
I was contemplating getting a prescott 3.4 instead of my Northwood 3.4. But in the end I chose the northwood. Even though I have good cooling, I didn't want to even imagine what kinds of temperatures I'd get from a prescott @ 4.2+ GHz with like 1.7V or something :P
That is pretty crazy man...but wow, is it awesome. :)
Thanks. I did not think it would be possible to overclock the 640 this much at all, especially not in a Shuttle. It does ~4.2 Ghz @ 1.36V..... I also have an older Prescott system (s. 478 3.2@3.6 @ 1.42V in Abit IC7-G), and that does get hotter than hell, even with a XP120 cooler.
Here are a few links to some benchmark results with the Shuttle system just to prove I'm not full of BS ;) PCMark04 6468 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2912681) and 3dmark2001se 26569 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8529079)
Superfly
04-17-05, 01:58 AM
Yeah, that's pretty good ram, and that's one of the great things about TCCD.. high clock speeds, good timings and not a ton of voltage.
When I had my 3500+,I ran my 4 sticks of Corsair TCCD @ 520Mhz 2.5-2-3-6. I was, however, forced to run 2T, and that cost me alot of performance unfortunately :(
yeh 1T all the way dude!!! also Crucial RAM is manufactured from Micron chips - not TCCD.
just a FYI
1337_Like_ThaT
04-17-05, 06:55 PM
I was contemplating getting a prescott 3.4 instead of my Northwood 3.4. But in the end I chose the northwood. Even though I have good cooling, I didn't want to even imagine what kinds of temperatures I'd get from a prescott @ 4.2+ GHz with like 1.7V or something :P
Go0d choice huggs, go0d choice.......Operating a PreshoTT @ 4.2ghz with high vCore would definately suck, unless you have an ubber 1337 cooling system :)
yea prescott with 1.7V, yikes man. u need a water cooling with at least 2 120mm deltas to cool that puppy--remember: heat output (current leaked) is proportional to increase in voltage exponentially
therefore: +Voltage = +(Wattage)^2
bkswaney
04-17-05, 10:13 PM
1.7 on a PS puts out some major heat.
There is no way I would run one
that high even on water.
Just my 2 cents. ;)
red_star
04-18-05, 10:35 PM
And i'm just satisfied with my stock speed. Prescot 3.4 D0 here :) This little baby doesn't run hotter than 48C with custom made air cooler.
Dispraiser
05-04-05, 02:31 PM
I really hate to do this, but I'm gonna have to ask... I've got a 2.8 GhZ Prescott, and I knew when I bought them thry run hot. Is there any newbie guide to overclocking? I'm not looking to hit insanly high speeds, I'd be happy with 3 or 3.2 ghz, even. I have an Asus P5DG1 motherboard, and one 512 MB DDR 400 Corsair RAM.
Superfly
05-04-05, 03:00 PM
im not aware of a guide - im sure there is one its just that I've never looked.
try Tweakguides (http://www.tweakguides.com)
or just google "overclocking the prescott P4"
best of British m8.
Dispraiser
05-04-05, 10:05 PM
Heh, I did, that's how I got here.
darkrider01
05-04-05, 11:28 PM
I don't get it......is 32*C (89*F) a hot processor? That's what my temps say at stock speed with stock cooling. CPU fan is at 2600+/- RPMs. I do have a well ventilated case, but I still don't think they run as hot as everyone says. I don't remember for sure, but when I oc'd to 3.3+GHz, I didn't see more than 100-105*F temps. That's not that big of a difference. Maybe I just have a "good one"..... :confused:
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