cryptographic keys in silicon chips

[PSYCHODAD]

interesting stuff.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050425/ap_on_hi_te/microsoft_windows

[zoomy942]

that is really interesting.. but hackers probably get tired of trying to get into my pc..

i rebuild it so dang much :)

[jolle]

hehe no wonder they changed the name of Palladium.. got alot of heat that stuff..
From what I read it could theoreticly mean that if you wrote something that MS didnt agree with in a text document, they could have it erased..
The death of opensource since you would only be able to run certified software.
Computers without the Fritz chip would be more or less locked out of the internet, there were some legal stuff that was supposed to come with it I think, something about it being illegal to connect to large networks without palladium support..

Didnt read all that much about it, dunno whats true or not, but it didnt sound very nice at all to me..
Seems like they are trying to get people to focus on other aspects of it after the name change anyway..

[jolle]

hehe, holy crap..
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1813963,00.asp

seems like they intend to put chips in monitors aswell, so they wont display unauthorized material..

DisplayPort is apparently part of a shift toward "trusted" computing, where a trusted OS kernel would transfer trusted data according to certain permissions, displaying it only on certain trusted devices. The content protection system for DisplayPort is being developed by Philips, and leverages many existing content protection components including AES encryption, Lempesis said.

[Gnu_Raiz]

From what I read it could theoreticly mean that if you wrote something that MS didnt agree with in a text document, they could have it erased..
The death of opensource since you would only be able to run certified software.
Computers without the Fritz chip would be more or less locked out of the internet, there were some legal stuff that was supposed to come with it I think, something about it being illegal to connect to large networks without palladium support..

I think that Open Source is big enough to overcome this problem, if they did try it. After all most of the internet backbone have a ton of Open Source critical servers. It could also be turned against them, just imagine a computer that rejects MS software because its not open, or rejects a .doc document because its not compatible with anything else. If someone tries to force something on you, then they better supply the computer as well as the software to view the information. For instance if say your work wants you to look at a document at your home, or your an admin that is tasked from home, then they better supply the hardware.

Right now its bad enough with .doc, and .rtf if you send anyone a Open Office native document they freak out. If anyone wants information from me in .doc form they can forget it, I consider .doc to be a virus, and should not be used if they want my business.

Gnu_Raiz

[jolle]

another issue is the legal bit, sure there are some real heavywieghts behind this and I wouldnt be suprised if they can buy their way in the US, but what about the rest of the world?

It all seems to big to work out in reality..
I guess they are going step by step tho, start out small with Longhorn and just build it up..
havent really followed the progress on the issue, not really sure on exactly what it means and what it can do, those real horror scenarios were read on a "anti palladium" site and were "this could be done with this tech" sort of stuff, so it might not be accurate with what they plan to do with it..

But I think they have pretty much the entire movie industry and prolly the music industry behind them, since it could potentially stop people from playing back content that hasnt be certified (bought).. which is what they want.