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CybrSage
04-29-05, 07:29 AM
Did you ever notice that Dems are always touting choices....be it abortion, lifestyle, or whatever?

BUT when it comes to my Social Security money, suddenly I should NOT have a choice about using a private account or keeping it as it is.

Guess the Dems think Social Security is suddenly no longer broken...


EDIT:

Did not notice the other thread...tried to delete this one, but I cannot. Just ignore this thread and post in the other...

SORRY!!!

saturnotaku
04-29-05, 07:32 AM
(welcome)

When Clinton says it's broken, the dems rush to address the "crisis." When Bush says it's broken, "nope, no problems here! Bush, bad. He si teh deval!"

Sazar
04-29-05, 08:40 AM
You actually DO have a choice. SS is not the only way to go. Read the discussion in the other thread wrt 401K's and the like.

There have been alternatives for a long time.

Yes the Dem's are remarkably disingenious about the topic, suggesting Bush's plan is BAD but yet offering nothing by way of their own plan.

Perhaps a mod can merge the threads?

CybrSage
04-29-05, 09:42 AM
401k is not an option. I am expressly talking about the 7.5% of my pay being removed for SS, none of which I am allowed to touch and have been told I might not get to have.

I would MUCH rather have ALL 7.5% placed into my 401k.

Sazar
04-29-05, 10:27 AM
401k is not an option. I am expressly talking about the 7.5% of my pay being removed for SS, none of which I am allowed to touch and have been told I might not get to have.

I would MUCH rather have ALL 7.5% placed into my 401k.

I see what you are saying. In that case yes, I would much rather have that money as well, but I guess I am paying in so some other person can get a decent retirement.

I'm a softie at heart :D

Ninjaman09
04-29-05, 11:05 AM
I see what you are saying. In that case yes, I would much rather have that money as well, but I guess I am paying in so some other person can get a decent retirement.

I'm a softie at heart :D
So what you're saying is that you support income redistribution. That's exactly what the Social Security system, as it currently exists, is. Frankly, I couldn't care less if someone can't have a decent retirement. If they didn't bother to plan and save, why the hell should it fall to OTHER people to pick up the slack for them? It comes down to personal responsibility - and this is what I can't stand, and never will be able to stand, about liberals - they think it's OK to force people to cover for the poor judgement and irresponsibility of others.

Sazar
04-29-05, 11:15 AM
You know, when I first read the thread title, i though Cyber had said "Democrat's are NOT pro-choice...when it comes to MY mommy !

:angel:

DiscipleDOC
04-29-05, 11:17 AM
You know, when I first read the thread title, i though Cyber had said "Democrat's are NOT pro-choice...when it comes to MY mommy !

:angel:
:rofl

Son Goku
04-29-05, 07:14 PM
Yeah, the current system doesn't leave one a choice on whether to pay or not pay SS... One's required...

I see what you are saying. In that case yes, I would much rather have that money as well, but I guess I am paying in so some other person can get a decent retirement.

I'm a softie at heart :D

BTW, (and yeah this thread really does fit in with my Social Security thread), it's not so much the paying so someone who expected it would be there (based on government promises given at the time) can retire that ergs me. It's the duplicitiousness on the part of the politicians themselves.

Hell, if I had money to give (which being a student in college and all, I currently don't have much), I'd be more then willing to give something to a charity where I know the money would get to the people, and pay those intended.

It's when that money gets siphoned off, for things like paying the interest on the national debt and allowing the politicians to hide from us just how severe the mess they created happens to be, that I get erged... Once it becomes a Congressional slush fund, as far as I'm concerned, my money deverted (obviously I can't expect it to return to me) ceases to perform any good function whatsoever. The good that it might have served for all of us, has essentially been aborted ;)