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GamerGuyX
05-12-05, 09:22 PM
Xbox 360 teaser videos

Video 1 (http://media.xboxfront.com/xbox360/xbox360.wmv)

Video 2 (http://msxb.wmod.llnwd.net/a274/o2/ourcolony/TheColony_v1_750k.wmv)

Edge
05-12-05, 09:55 PM
Gamespot also has an article and video of it online: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6124293/index.html

six_storm
05-12-05, 10:03 PM
The MTV special was pretty cool I guess. They didn't really say much about specs or anything like that. I thought that Madden 06, and the new Need for Speed looked AMAZING! I can't wait to get my grubby lil hands on this machine.

Edge
05-12-05, 10:20 PM
Hmm, it seems that those creatures shown in the Unreal Engine 3 demo weren't just for show: they're apperently from the upcoming Gears of War game for the Xbox 360: http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200505/N05.0512.1902.42028.htm

GamerGuyX
05-12-05, 10:22 PM
http://features.teamxbox.com/xbox/1143/Taking-a-Spin-with-the-Xbox-360/p1/#top

six_storm
05-12-05, 10:28 PM
I hope and pray that M$ will lower prices on the current XBOX to $99. I definitly wanna buy an XBOX to keep me busy until November. Do you guys think they will lower prices?

GamerGuyX
05-12-05, 10:30 PM
I hope and pray that M$ will lower prices on the current XBOX to $99. I definitly wanna buy an XBOX to keep me busy until November. Do you guys think they will lower prices?

Eventually... yes.

Rakeesh
05-13-05, 01:23 AM
Apparently the new xbox is water cooled:

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEEVAuyFZuOyJuFoEz.php

If water cooling gets applied to embedded devices like this more often, then its likely we will see much cheaper and maintenance free PC water cooling solutions very soon.

kev13dd
05-13-05, 01:32 AM
Apparently the new xbox is water cooled:

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEEVAuyFZuOyJuFoEz.php

If water cooling gets applied to embedded devices like this more often, then its likely we will see much cheaper and maintenance free PC water cooling solutions very soon.

I never thought anyone would do this

One tiny leak and the whole >300 system is ruined

Shipping, dropping, shaking, so many things could go wrong. Especially since the console is supposed to be so "portable"

Crazyness...

K

Rakeesh
05-13-05, 01:42 AM
I never thought anyone would do this

One tiny leak and the whole >300 system is ruined

Shipping, dropping, shaking, so many things could go wrong. Especially since the console is supposed to be so "portable"

Crazyness...

K

It wont be a problem. Provided its sealed properly, theres virtually no chance of a problem ever occuring. Liquid sealing technology is pretty advanced - look at hydrolics which are expected to work in mission critical systems.

Vagrant Zero
05-13-05, 02:20 AM
I never thought anyone would do this

One tiny leak and the whole >300 system is ruined

Shipping, dropping, shaking, so many things could go wrong. Especially since the console is supposed to be so "portable"

Crazyness...

K

High End Sony Computers [Oxymoron] have been water-cooled for over a year now.

oldsk00l
05-13-05, 10:52 AM
On my G5 2.5GHz system the water cooling system is tight. I definitely think its the way to go. You can apply the same principle to cars and say its absurd that they use liquid cooling. Really it's the only way to go with the kinds of heat we are now dealing with.

Athena
05-13-05, 03:29 PM
So I saw that all games will be LIVE. Does this mean it requires you to have a LIVE account just to play games? If so they just saved me a bunch of cash. I will stick w/ what I got now and wait on PS3 and the new N-cube and what ever else might come out. But I do not pay a monthly fee to play games I payed 50 bucks for. Which is another point they are saying games might jump to 60 or 70 base stating w/ these newer systems. Man that hurts. :(

six_storm
05-13-05, 03:36 PM
So I saw that all games will be LIVE. Does this mean it requires you to have a LIVE account just to play games? If so they just saved me a bunch of cash. I will stick w/ what I got now and wait on PS3 and the new N-cube and what ever else might come out. But I do not pay a monthly fee to play games I payed 50 bucks for. Which is another point they are saying games might jump to 60 or 70 base stating w/ these newer systems. Man that hurts. :(

You don't HAVE to subscrive to their live service to play the single player portionn of the game. You do if you want to play ONLINE MP though.

oldsk00l
05-13-05, 03:50 PM
You don't HAVE to subscrive to their live service to play the single player portionn of the game. You do if you want to play ONLINE MP though.

I think I misread somewhere, but I was under the opinion that with Live! silver you could play mp online...it was for extra stuff you had to pay and get the gold version.

six_storm
05-13-05, 04:11 PM
I think I misread somewhere, but I was under the opinion that with Live! silver you could play mp online...it was for extra stuff you had to pay and get the gold version.

Actually, when you buy the console, you get a free trail of the Silver package. And if I'm not mistaken, you can do anything with the Live service BESIDES online multiplayer. There is a lot of other things to do with the new Live service besides playing MP.

ynnek
05-13-05, 04:22 PM
yes.. but those are also checked and maintained on regular basis


Thats the biggets hurdle.. maintenance.. Most plastic tubing will slowly allow coolant to evaporate and leave.. slowly, but surely... however, there's stuff out there that won't do that (for any appreciable amount in a timespan in 5 years at least).. and stuff that won't rot and clog.. hence why your seeing water cooled stuff slowly appear straight from the factory to your avg end consumer now.


Its just one more thing to worry about... (similar to air fans having to deal with dust and such).. But as long as you can convice me, the consumer, that I won't even have to think twice about how its cooled, as in I just plug it in and it works, who cares.




It wont be a problem. Provided its sealed properly, theres virtually no chance of a problem ever occuring. Liquid sealing technology is pretty advanced - look at hydrolics which are expected to work in mission critical systems.

oldsk00l
05-13-05, 04:30 PM
When you think about it though these are just design challenges. It's funny because we get to see who has worked out logistics in the easiest way for the consumer.

six_storm
05-13-05, 04:57 PM
Yeah, I really can't wait to see the Nintendo Revolution (definitly won't be buying) and the Playstation 3 (considering) next week and compare them to the XBOX 360. This years E3 is going to be the best EVAR!

oldsk00l
05-13-05, 05:22 PM
Nintendo's so going to eat it...unless they get an impressive damn rabbit to come out of the hat.

six_storm
05-13-05, 05:26 PM
Nintendo's so going to eat it...unless they get an impressive damn rabbit to come out of the hat.

Very true. I'm surprised the Gamecube and DS did so well . . .

oldsk00l
05-13-05, 05:40 PM
DS might continue to do well though. Especially if Nintendo puts out a Palm suite for it.

Rakeesh
05-14-05, 10:55 AM
yes.. but those are also checked and maintained on regular basis

I have a hydrolic floor jack that hasn't been checked or maintained for the past 8 years, and its always been shook around, dropped, etc. No leaks.

Besides, they don't have to use water either. There are other chemicals available with the same or better cooling properties as water that don't have any conductive properties.

Thats the biggets hurdle.. maintenance.. Most plastic tubing will slowly allow coolant to evaporate and leave.. slowly, but surely... however, there's stuff out there that won't do that (for any appreciable amount in a timespan in 5 years at least).. and stuff that won't rot and clog.. hence why your seeing water cooled stuff slowly appear straight from the factory to your avg end consumer now.

That wont be a problem either, they can just use stainless steel tubing. It's an embedded system; flexible tubing is not necessary. Or if it was necessary, they could always use flexible copper tubing, which is frequently used for gas pipes and doesn't even leak that.