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Tr1cK
05-11-05, 01:27 PM
I never said EQ2 was better then WoW or vice versa...was just saying there are different parts of the game just like it was in EQ1 at different levels. ..and people keep using the word grind...confusing it with EQ1...if you get into a guild and make friends...and do heritage quests and guild events..it not a grind....but some people prefer to play it that way. I guess each its own. me if i am just killing things without a reason I am bored I like the quest system in EQ2 and only do quests.

unfortunately you have not seen any of the high level zones, so your review is kind of not fair IMO Your highest level is 32? 32 IMO is when the game really opens up and when I really started to enjoy my wizard. If you made it to 45+ you would see what I mean.


Well, I'm not saying one is better than the other either, but you did say that you didn't enjoy your wizard until 32. Personally, I have never played EQ2 and I wouldn't deal with it if I didn't enjoy myself for 32 levels. I do find WoW enjoyable from begining til end, especially doing quests with my guildmates or real life friends.

The games are so much alike in the general aspect of things and that's why I say to each their own.

slightly off topic: I wonder if we could make threads based solely on grouping in game? Like start a MMORPG section under games and post to see what servers we are on.

nrdstrm
05-11-05, 02:04 PM
Great review Chris. I can not comment on WOW as much, because I only played the beta and didn't level very high. I can say that my 2 favorite (and most varied) zones are Everfrost and Lavastorm. I havn't been to Soulsek's Eye yet (spelling?), but I hear its amazing. I am currently a 45 zerker, and the content is seriously kicking ass...And PVP is coming :)
Nrdstrm
PS. I would love to have an MMORPG sub forum....Mods?

Sidric
05-11-05, 02:54 PM
PS. I would love to have an MMORPG sub forum....Mods?

I second . . .er third that.

Nv40
05-11-05, 07:18 PM
No they still can't GW only allows you in the mission areas if you are part taking in a mission/quest. You can randomly walk around in one and kill monsters without having a quest/mission. You are limited severly also to amount of poeple onscreen at a single time. If you want to compare GW to anything compare it to Diablo and Sacred... they are literally identical in the gameplay aspect...



http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=548395


Watch out Blizzard, Guild Wars is a worthy contender to WoW's throne......... An excellent MMORPG and one that easily sits alongside Blizzard’s World of Warcraft at the top of the genre. A streamlined experience and excellent blend between PvP and RPG are the largest strengths of Guild Wars; if you have any interest in the genre make sure to check it out...

As a matter is of fact IS an MMORPG game.. MASSIVE Multi Online ROLE PLAYING GAME .. its massive because can play with thousand of people in the same server and you can contact anyone or teamup with anyone at any time you want .. however the game limits for obvious reasons the quantity of people that can be physically in the same place..its have Multiplayer and "Single player" and only can be played Online . and its also an RPG game.. So yes its a MMORPG game.. :) but not a standar one , it doesnt play exactly like WOW or EQ2.. neither EQ2 plays exactly like WOW or viceversa... there are key diferences and thats because their developers want some originality in their games and have diferent goals, for example Guildwars was made as massive as possible for free online play. And the diferences in the gameplay are because they have diferent opinions about what is fun in a MMORPG game. Some people might call it CCORPG and even call it MSORPG (massive Single player online RPG) but that can be played also as a MMORPG game. Really there arent rules set in stone that says which is the correct way MMORpgs should be played. The fact that the game competes in the same WOW and EQ2 genre.. and its being compared already in many reviews not with the -sims online- but with the same World of Warcraft for nothing. thanks your help .

ChrisRay
05-11-05, 09:37 PM
You know guys.. I havent seen all of WoW either.. I havent experience the high end zones or any of the "Raid" Content which supposively what makes the better part of WoW. Honestly. I was just handing out my opinions of both games.I have played them both rather extensively. Alot more than most reviewers have to actually give a remotely objective comparison of the two. I was just mustering up my thoughts about the 2 games and I thought I'd share them with you all... I was never trying to promote my opinion as gospel here.

Oh and on a second note. I think EQ 2 has a better quest system than WoW. Unfortunately EQ 2's reward per quests makes alot of people not want to do them. As the rewards are poor experience and money/item wise.

NrthnStar5
05-11-05, 10:56 PM
My First MMORPG was WoW. I bought into the hype, and wanted to try it for something different. It made me fall in love with the mmo genre. WoW opened the doors for a whole new computer gaming world. I loved WoW. I was following EQ2 mildly around the same time, it intrigued me quite a bit. I got wow first because of all the "praise" going around. I was captivated by it. Then i got EQ2 for christmas. I started it a bit, but didn't get into it right away because i was captivated by WoW. But then around level 18ish i got bored with WoW. I started to explore EQ2. I got really into it and now i love it. I'm only a level 17 Erudite summoner, but i've been loving the game. There is just something about it that i can't fully describe. The world and it's history, and just it's look and feel. However I've only grouped a couple of times, and I am not a member of a good guild. I'd love to find some good online friends to play with, but i've been having a blast soloing as well. WoW is a great game, but there is something about EQ2 that is special, that WoW doesn't have. Both games are really good, And I play both because they offer different experiences. I like to see good honest comparisons, and not bashes against one or the other.

Oh... and if anyone wants to invite little ole' me into their guild, i'm on the Everfrost server =-)

pingu2
05-12-05, 03:55 AM
some quests give good/great rewards - the 2 weapons i use at level 50.. quested, my belt, my boots, my earrings, my bow, 4 of my bags.. quested - still working on a few other quests for new gear (1 group quests still).. there are plenty of good quests out there - there are quests that just give a small %xp and a few gold sure, but they are of the kill 20 so and so kind (the sort you just happen to do without meaning to as you play)

oh and I appreciate your mini-review - not trying to bash that.. just giving my point of view too!

Sgt_Pitt
05-12-05, 08:53 AM
lol chris you havent even seen half of EQ2 yet, you been to Sol eye in lavastorm, or feerott, or everfrost ? huge levels with so much high level content. sharks the size of whales, and in lavastorm the volcano is something to behold.

ChrisRay
05-12-05, 09:14 AM
Oh for pete sakes Pitt. I havent seen half of WoW yet either. Jeez. The whole idea that I havent experienced enough of EQ 2 to get a good idea of it plays/feels and the content layout in general is ridiculous. EQ 2 feels small compared to WoW and EQ 1. The way the world is designed has a compacting feel to it. There may be some large zones but the overall diversity and size of the world is small. Compared to EQ 1 and WoW.

|MaguS|
05-12-05, 09:21 AM
Chris is right, the zone in EQ2 compared to EQ1 are tiny feeling even though they are not sometimes. I think its due to every zone in EQ2 having mountains as barriers (atleast from what I have seen) and when the zones meet they don't meet as fluid as they did in EQ1. When traveling the Karana's in EQ1 it would feel endless since the only time you knew the current zone ended was either by a landmark or you got the "Please Wait, Loading" msg. EQ2 always has a door or a gate... the barriers are pretty defined making it feel closed in.

ChrisRay
05-12-05, 09:25 AM
Chris is right, the zone in EQ2 compared to EQ1 are tiny feeling even though they are not sometimes. I think its due to every zone in EQ2 having mountains as barriers (atleast from what I have seen) and when the zones meet they don't meet as fluid as they did in EQ1. When traveling the Karana's in EQ1 it would feel endless since the only time you knew the current zone ended was either by a landmark or you got the "Please Wait, Loading" msg. EQ2 always has a door or a gate... the barriers are pretty defined making it feel closed in.

Yup. This is exactly what I mean. EQ 1 and WOW zones blend together well. EQ 2 zones do not. The way EQ 2 is designed is you could connect any zone to each other and it would fit because there really is no pattern. In EQ 1 and WoW, The zone connections have to make sense to what they are connecting too because of the way landscapes connect to each zone.

Ghosthunter
05-12-05, 09:28 AM
Yup. This is exactly what I mean. EQ 1 and WOW zones blend together well. EQ 2 zones do not. The way EQ 2 is designed is you could connect any zone to each other and it would fit because there really is no pattern. In EQ 1 and WoW, The zone connections have to make sense to what they are connecting too because of the way landscapes connect to each zone.


You seem to be stuck on this zone thing...sorry but while EQ1 might have felt huge in the beginning..a lot of it was wasted space and underused. To me each zone is unique in EQ2 and that is what I like. Each zone feels alive unlike EQ1 did.

ChrisRay
05-12-05, 09:31 AM
You seem to be stuck on this zone thing...sorry but while EQ1 might have felt huge in the beginning..a lot of it was wasted space and underused. To me each zone is unique in EQ2 and that is what I like. Each zone feels alive unlike EQ1 did.


All I'm pointing out is EQ 2 zone feels small and compact. I'm not "Stuck" on it. I am arguing my position which keeps being called wrong and innacurate. EQ 2 zones dont blend together well and I think thats a killer for immersion.

Ghosthunter
05-12-05, 09:32 AM
Oh and on a second note. I think EQ 2 has a better quest system than WoW. Unfortunately EQ 2's reward per quests makes alot of people not want to do them. As the rewards are poor experience and money/item wise.


Did you do any heritage quests? How many did you complete? There are still tons of other quests that have decent rewards. How about the collection quests? Those are very good for XP.

ChrisRay
05-12-05, 09:34 AM
Did you do any heritage quests? How many did you complete? There are still tons of other quests that have decent rewards. How about the collection quests? Those are very good for XP.


Yes I did heritage quests, I also did a few epic quests in WoW. Which are completely comparable. EQ 2's quest system is better and offers more depth. But WoW quest system offers more reward in comparison. The heritage quests I started doing were. Shiny Brass Halberd, Dwarven Work Boots, and Ghoulsbane. I didnt finish the entire quests because they were designed to scale to level 50, I did what I could and the rewards were comparable.The issue isnt with the big epic type quests. The issue resolves in the smaller quests aimed at the more casual gamer.

|MaguS|
05-12-05, 09:41 AM
EQ1 Epic Quests > All! Nothing beats camping a single mob for a week :o

F*** YOU RAGEFIRE!

Ghosthunter
05-12-05, 09:43 AM
Yes I did heritage quests, I also did a few epic quests in WoW. Which are completely comparable. EQ 2's quest system is better and offers more depth. But WoW quest system offers more reward in comparison. The heritage quests I started doing were. Shiny Brass Halberd, Dwarven Work Boots, and Ghoulsbane. I didnt finish the entire quests because they were designed to scale to level 50, I did what I could and the rewards were comparable.The issue isnt with the big epic type quests. The issue resolves in the smaller quests aimed at the more casual gamer.


You dont need to be level 50...just need a group or wait till higher level...

Elderblaze
05-12-05, 03:28 PM
some great changes where made to EQ1 Recently, old timers should check out the last 2 patch messages :) They recently spread out the pre 50 spells, you get them every level now. They have really adressed alot of class balence issues, the classes are much better balenced now. I play a 70 mage and i've never been as happy about balence as I am now.

Regards,
Mike

Sgt_Pitt
05-13-05, 07:22 AM
yeah i agree about the smaller quests offer little to no reward, but the big quests are well worth doing, but are very inacessible to solo players for sure. but makes the reward all the more pleasing when you finally pull of a big quest.

our guild Allure on najena is 3/4 of the way through the fire and ice lvl 50 quest in which we will all get prismatic weaponry, theres about 40 of us doing the quest, with everyone helping each other to get to the same stage in the quest, it adds a new spin on the game when you have such a strong guild, but your right the game is heavily stacked towards guilds towards the endgame. But its still great fun, im loving every minute of it, lots of frustration and lots of triumphs keeps me coming back :D

Marcos
05-15-05, 11:01 AM
raise your hand if you never have server problems





*raise

(skullcrusher)

|MaguS|
05-15-05, 11:59 AM
Well since I have started playing last week I have had no troubles at all... WoW is boring as hell though compared to EQ2. Im lvl 16 and have only grouped twice just to kill a single foe and then the group disbanded. Its too solo friendly at the lower levels, they should have put some group requirements sometime to get people into knowning how groups work.

MOTÖRHEAD
05-15-05, 10:33 PM
a WoW without the monthly fees...





At least in WoW and in Eq2 I can swim in water and jump over stuff. Not to mention grouping with people without going to town.

Nuvian
05-20-05, 05:28 PM
good review,i played EQ2 for 4 months or so,and i left eventualy since the game felt more like a second job then a game,playing WoW these days and im enjoying it ALOT more,you can play 30-60mins and still feel that uve made some progress,in eq2 i felt like i was quite group dependent to get anything done,sure they added solo stuff but it wasnt the same,and PVP is WoW is a big plus,nice 2 take pauses from questing and grinding and just pvp some,only other option in eq2 was farming writs,farming resources or standing still infront of a trade skill spot and basicly do the same circle of key strokes that u do when soloing.

TheManko
05-20-05, 07:02 PM
If those highlevel areas are so awesome, why aren't we looking at screenshots? Give me a reason to go back when I get my new processor!

mcolbourn
05-23-05, 06:05 AM
I have only ever seen EQ 1 and 2 (on mates PC's) I only just got WOW on saturday and I am totaly into it now I may go and have a look at the EQ range if and when I get bord of WoW (by then they may have somnething better)