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evilchris
05-16-05, 10:15 PM
Yes but in 1080i the games take a performance hit, the EDRAM is there to buffer so there is no performance hit when they run it at such a high resolution and with AA.

1080i caused absolutely zero hit on the Xbox 1 and its measely 64MB shared architecture. The edram is there for more important reasons.

I'm being objective about the consoles btw. Your name says "Sony Wh0re" =) Are you really already sold based off a sheet of paper and a few demos?

|MaguS|
05-16-05, 10:18 PM
I just changed it after seeing the demos, yes Im totally sold on watching GAME DEMOS.

And there is a performance hit on the games that support it and actually look good.

GamerGuyX
05-16-05, 10:19 PM
1080i caused absolutely zero hit on the Xbox 1 and its measely 64MB shared architecture.

Actually it caused a HUGE performance hit. You gotta remember, only about 5 Xbox games supported 1080i. You know why? Because of the huge performance hit it caused obviously.

You don't believe me that only a few Xbox games supported 1080i? Well lookie here:

http://www.hdtvarcade.com/xboxlist.htm

evilchris
05-16-05, 10:20 PM
I just changed it after seeing the demos, yes Im totally sold on watching GAME DEMOS.

And there is a performance hit on the games that support it and actually look good.

I remember early Xbox game demos looking far better than what the Xbox really ended up delivering.

There is no performance hit on any Xbox 1 games that support 1080i and 720p. I know this because I have played them all, literally.

evilchris
05-16-05, 10:21 PM
Actually it caused a HUGE performance hit. You gotta remember, only about 5 Xbox games supported 1080i. You know why? Because of the huge performance hit it caused obviously.

You don't believe me that only a few Xbox games supported 1080i? Welll lookie here:

http://www.hdtvarcade.com/xboxlist.htm

Actually that's not "obviously" the reason. I've been a regular at hdtvarcade for 3 years now, don't need the link =)

GamerGuyX
05-16-05, 10:21 PM
There is no performance hit on any Xbox 1 games that support 1080i and 720p. I know this because I have played them all, literally.

You idiot. The reason the games were playable in 720p and 1080i was because they were programmed to take advantage of the modes. Seriously though, if 720p and 1080i provided no performance hit then don't you think that they would of made a huge game like Halo 2 in 1080i? Of course they would of, but due to the peformance hit it caused they kept the game in 480p.

evilchris
05-16-05, 10:23 PM
You idiot. The reason the games were payable in 720p and 1080i was because they were programmed with it to take advantage of the modes.

Watch your mouth kiddie. This forum is for grown ups who can objectively debate. Just because I am not slobbering over a console that you don't even own like you are doesn't justify you calling anyone names. Grow up.

GamerGuyX
05-16-05, 10:25 PM
Watch your mouth kiddie. This forum is for grown ups who can objectively debate. Just because I am not slobbering over a console that you don't even own like you are doesn't justify you calling anyone names. Grow up.

Is this how you act everytime your proven wrong?

evilchris
05-16-05, 10:25 PM
Is this how you act everytime your proven wrong?

I don't believe you proved anything.

Quit acting like you have a personal stake in Sony. You don't have a PS3. You won't for a year. Wait until then to "defend" it son.

oldsk00l
05-16-05, 10:26 PM
I agree w/Steeda about the idiot remark...

However I maintain it's still too early to say which console is "teh more powarfulz0rz!!!".

I'm just more impressed with the PS3 stuff than the 360 stuff. However, Halo3 will come out...and if it doesn't kick Killzone in the balls I'm going to be sorely dissappointed. Bungie accomplishes things graphics-wise that were not intended.

Microsoft is also going to be hard pressed to keep with Sony's software leverage.

GamerGuyX
05-16-05, 10:27 PM
I don't believe you proved anything.

Quit acting like you have a personal stake in Sony. You don't have a PS3. You won't for a year. Wait until then to "defend" it son.

WTF? We were talking about the Xbox not the PS3. What is your problem?

evilchris
05-16-05, 10:28 PM
WTF? We were talking about the Xbox not the PS3. What is your problem?

My problem is kids on the forum who call people they don't know idiots since they can't intelligently debate their position.

|MaguS|
05-16-05, 10:28 PM
Watch the Movies, Killzone shows GAMEPLAY!
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3movies.html

evilchris
05-16-05, 10:29 PM
I agree w/Steeda about the idiot remark...

However I maintain it's still too early to say which console is "teh more powarfulz0rz!!!".

I'm just more impressed with the PS3 stuff than the 360 stuff. However, Halo3 will come out...and if it doesn't kick Killzone in the balls I'm going to be sorely dissappointed. Bungie accomplishes things graphics-wise that were not intended.

Microsoft is also going to be hard pressed to keep with Sony's software leverage.

I'm not too into Xbox's listed launch titles at all...

I'd like to see some new stuff, not just sequels.

GamerGuyX
05-16-05, 10:29 PM
My problem is kids on the forum who call people they don't know idiots since they can't intelligently debate their position.

How am I not intelligently debating? I already proved to you that 720p and 1080i caused a huge performance hit on the original Xbox. Its your turn to try and prove me wrong.

oldsk00l
05-16-05, 10:31 PM
Watch the Movies, Killzone shows GAMEPLAY!
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3movies.html
I HATE streaming media. I'd rather people just not post it, thanks for nothing.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

oldsk00l
05-16-05, 10:33 PM
I'm not too into Xbox's listed launch titles at all...

I'd like to see some new stuff, not just sequels.

See that's another thing. I agree there. It sure would be nice to keep some consistent new stuff going on.

Banko
05-16-05, 10:34 PM
It looked quite fine to me, and if you want to download it you can always just pay gamespot

|MaguS|
05-16-05, 10:34 PM
Give me some webspace and I will download them all from thier premium highspeed ftp and upload them there...

oldsk00l
05-16-05, 10:36 PM
I'd rather die of rectal cancer than pay that....and sorry for coming off so strong it's just that everyone under the sun seems to have this propencity recently.

GamerGuyX
05-16-05, 10:40 PM
The Getaway 3:

http://img2.uploadimages.net/642432The_Getaway_3-pic.1.jpg

http://img2.uploadimages.net/648480The_Getaway_3-pic.2.jpg

http://img2.uploadimages.net/840473The_Getaway_3-pic.3.jpg

|MaguS|
05-16-05, 10:42 PM
One thing you can say about the Sony they learned from the PS2, No Jaggies!

Bad_Boy
05-16-05, 10:43 PM
O_O...speechless.

oldsk00l
05-16-05, 10:43 PM
jeez man, they pulled out all the stops for these demos.....

GamerGuyX
05-16-05, 10:44 PM
Killing Day:

http://img2.uploadimages.net/131769Killing_Day-pic.1.jpg

http://img2.uploadimages.net/467185Killing_Day-pic.2.jpg

http://img2.uploadimages.net/744516Killing_Day-pic.3.jpg