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=Super_n00b=
12-13-02, 09:12 AM
Im after MOHAA and/or SOFII for linux..I have RTCW and Q3A Windows versions running without winex or win4lin But i need more...Is there anything out there ?? Or am i dreaming ?

Cheers.:o

tuxfriend
12-13-02, 03:54 PM
Yes,there is a lot stuff out there:


www.linuxgames.com for information


www.tuxgames.com where to buy games


www.icculus.org more stuff like Serious Sam Port Quake2 and many more.


SOF2 runs under winex for MOHAA I dont know.


Look for UT and UT2003 they are avaiable inder Linux to.





Have a lot of fun





tuxfriend

=Super_n00b=
12-13-02, 07:27 PM
Xlent.. Thanks for the links.I have UT2003 i bought it for Winpoos :)
How well does WineX work ?

tuxfriend
12-14-02, 07:20 AM
Hi,
Winex works well with some games but its a little tricky to install.
Search for FAQs and visit www.transgaming.com before you start
messing around with it.
http://www.frankscorner.org/wine/ has FAQs-very helpfull.
By the way you dont need Winex for UT2003 the linux_installer is
on the 3rd cd.
Games I run with Winex:
SOF2,JK2,Stronghold,Eliteforce
I got the .rpms now and I will try other games over the holiday season.

tuxfriend

Mandarb1
12-14-02, 02:57 PM
Where did you get the rpms for those games tuxracer? You didnt have to mess around with Wine or WineX for those games you listed in your last post?

tuxfriend
12-14-02, 03:48 PM
@Mandarb1


There are no rpms for the games,what I get is the rpm for Winex.You must


register for min 3 month for 15$.The issue is here that rpms are a lot


easier to install,you can use Wine and Winex,the rpm takes care of some


install and copyprotection probelms and at frankscorner there is even


a gameinstaller for winex.rpm only.


Installing from cvs is not easy at all but it worked for me.


Same with the games,SOF2 as an example I could not install with the


installer(there is a workaround now on transgaming) so I did a Win-install


and copied the game over the network on the linux-gamingPC.


Winex has a fake_win and also a registry the same I learnd to hate in those win-days.So if you copy a game from a win-installation you cant


patch it without hacking the registry.


Sometime you need a no-cdcrack to run a game.Stronghold as an


exsample.


So I really like real linux-ports like Q3 or RTCW.


But if you want some extragames wine and winex is the solution


and you will learn a little about your linux-believe it.


Just try it out.





tuxfriend

=Super_n00b=
12-14-02, 07:10 PM
Ok First i have to say This is the BEST Linux forum i have EVER registerd with you guys are EXELENT i have not seen a single "Pissoff n00b" or "you dumb Bastard" here at all. Thanks so much to everyone here for being so helpfull..2nd I got the WineX CVS and followd the destructions to the letter and It workes great.. Without you guy's i think id still be fumbeling round lost in linux..Oh and i tried to install my UT2003 but for some reason at the "please insert your Game Disk" It cant find Disk 1, I used the Install.SH from Disk3 both from the CD3 and copy'd it to HDD both ways gave me the same problem..

Big Thanks To All

Cheers

=Super_n00b=
12-14-02, 08:02 PM
Ok .. i have just tried to install JKII with winex ..Umm has anyone seen this ?

"The installshield Enjine (iKernel.exe) Could not be installed, The folder 'C:\Program Files\Common FilesREE8' Could not be created. (0x5)"

tuxfriend
12-15-02, 06:32 AM
Q: I've just bought Unreal Tournament 2003, and i can't get it to install. The installer on the third disk asks me to install the "PLAY" disk, but no matter which disk i try, they all fail. What's wrong?
A: The Linux installer asks for the wrong disc names. This was the
results of an unfortunate miscommunication right before the disc went
gold. The installer will ask for "play disc", "disc 1", "disc 2". What
it should ask for is "disc 1", "disc 2", "disc 3". This is
obnoxious, but it is not fatal, as the text is just used in the
user interface, and is not used in detecting the disc. Just put
in the disc it wants, not the one it asks for. :)
A: Note that, perhaps most importantly, the other questions about the original Unreal Tournament apply. Especially with regard to joilet support. When you mount disc 3 to look for the installer, you should see linux_installer.sh, not linux_in.sh. The option you want (as far as my 2.4.19-based system is concerned) in the kernel configuration is under "Filesystems". Enable "ISO 9660 CDROM file system support" and then "Microsoft Joliet CDROM extensions". If there is a "Rock Ridge extensions" option, enable that too.
A: Do not sit on the mount point, or you won't be able to switch discs. So if
you do this (or something like it):
mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/cdrom /mnt
cd /mnt
./linux_installer.sh
You won't be able to unmout the disc when the installer asks for the next disc
in the series, since your shell is still sitting in the mountpoint. It will
work better if you do something more like this:
mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/cdrom /mnt
cd /somewhere/else
/mnt/linux_installer.sh
The installer copies itself to $TMPDIR before running, so it shouldn't
be sitting on the mountpoint. If this still isn't working, copy the installer
yourself, to make sure it is not blocking your unmount:
mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/cdrom /mnt
cp /mnt/linux_installer.sh $HOME
umount /mnt (this is making sure the disc is unmountable)
$HOME/linux_installer.sh
A: Are you using Mandrake? If so, you will probably need to disable supermount for your CDROM/DVDROM drive, since it appears to be interfering with the installer's ability to detect the CDROM properly. To turn it off, run drakconf, go to "Mount Points" -> DVD (or CDROM) -> Options -> uncheck supermount.
Save your changes, make sure the CDs are completely unmounted, and then try the installer again. you'll need to manually mount the cdroms, insert disk 3, run the installer, and it should work fine now.
Other distributions will need to use their way of turning off supermount, although we don't know of any others that use it by default.
A: If you get a bunch of errors to the console for each file installed, talking
about different devices in your /etc/fstab, they can (usually) be ignored. If
they are causing trouble, temporarily comment those lines out of fstab.
(If that makes you nervous, the SETUP_CDROM environment variable described
below accomplishes this better.)
A: If you have multiple CD drives, and the installer is continuously
grinding the one you're not currently installing off, then tells you
"mount: no media" or similar, just stuff one of the other ut2k3 CDs into
that drive. The installer will even pick up on that and save you a disk
change later.
A: If you are SURE you've got the correct disc mounted and the installer seems
to disagree, export the environment SETUP_CDROM before running the installer,
and you might be able to fool it (this is untested):
export SETUP_CDROM=/where/i/mounted/the/cdrom
/where/i/mounted/the/cdrom/linux_installer.sh
The installer doesn't care if it's really a CD, so if you get really desperate,
you can copy it to your harddrive or mount an ISO on a loopback device, etc.
The installer just looks for files in a directory tree to decide if the CD-ROM
is mounted. If you've got multiple CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drives, mount a disc
in each and export SETUP_CDROM_CD1, SETUP_CDROM_CD2, and SETUP_CDROM_CD3, and the installer will go directly to those locations for the needed files.
A: The installer will seem to install some stuff very fast, and then really
REALLY slow down, taking a long time for individual files. THIS IS NORMAL.
Files that are compressed into Epic's "uz2" format take a long time to
uncompress. This is the bulk of the installer's work. This game takes a LONG
time to install (you are, after all, uncompressing about 2.5 gigs worth of
data).
A: Read this: https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147,
and this: https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147.
A: If none of the above works, consider e-mailing our mailing list after
subscribing as described above.
from http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/
hope this helps

tuxfriend
12-15-02, 06:41 AM
for JK2 its the problem with the intrashield installer I mentioned above.
You can copy a win-installation or use this script
http://mitglied.lycos.de/jeppo/index.php?uebergabe=scripts_jk2
Sorry the site is in german.
http://frankscorner.org/wine/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=59&page=1
This one is in english and should solve your problem.

tuxfriend

=Super_n00b=
12-15-02, 07:05 AM
Maaaannnnn All was going so well to :(
ok hears the deal guys.. I thought id just do a quick reinstall of mandrake as i had play'd around and i was now ready to set it up how i wanted so i thought id start from scratch..

What a mistake that was :( Now wile installing the 4191 Nvidia Drivers i get this "error: failed dependencies: kernel = 2.4.8-26mdk is needed by NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191.mdk81up" WTF is that all about ??? if i go into the control Center it tells me i have 2.4.19-16mdk ?? H-E-L-P M-E :( Please :confused:

lunix
12-15-02, 08:23 AM
Umm Im not runnign Mandrake but Im pretty sure you have to have the haeders intalled and stuff: linux-2.4.x-devel.rpm?
It is generally accepted that installing from the .tar.gz's works better. There is goldmine of knowledge in the linux & nvidia forum here why not try having a look. TIP: If you are having trouble installing a rpm and its complaining of dependancies that you know are satisfied try adding --nodeps as a option, and or --force for that matter.
BTW for a "noob" you did the right thing by stating what you tried to do and the error resulting from it. It helps the volunteer helpdesk guys imensly.

=Super_n00b=
12-15-02, 10:38 AM
Ok i have tried everything i have read in about 5 different forums and im still getting the Faild Dependancies Grrrrr there has to be something simple ive missed but for the life of me i cant figure it out. Tomorrow if i cant sort it im going to QUIT ! My last install i didnt choose anything different and the Nvidia RPM's Installed fine.. "Headers and stuff" ? where do i find these ? i tried the --force and the --nodeps same problem Thanks for the help everyone. Im getting to the end of my rope now :(

Phyre
12-15-02, 11:17 AM
Try booting from the CD again and do an upgrade. When you get to the point of choosing applications, tell the upgrade that you want to select individual packages. I can't remember exactly where it is, but there is a option to install the kernel headers and kernel source. The NVidia drivers generally like those.

If I had to take a couple of guesses as to where the kernel headers and source are, I would guess in the development, system, or kenel areas of packages.

Phyre

tuxfriend
12-15-02, 01:52 PM
I think the rpm you are trying to install are not matching your

kernel.2.4.8-26 may be the kernel from mdk 8.1 or 8.2.

Try to check this out.

Or go to the graphics forum and look at the post how to install
from tar.gz.

tuxfriend

tuxfriend
12-15-02, 05:04 PM
"kernel = 2.4.8-26mdk is needed by NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191.mdk81up" WTF is that all about ??? if i go into the control Center it tells me i have 2.4.19-16mdk "
Yep now I get it:"mdk81up" -your are using rpms for mdk 8.1 as I thought
before so there is no need to quit now.
I should have read it a little more carefully before.
Just try again with rpms for your distribution and it should work.


greetings from germany

tuxfriend

Mandarb1
12-15-02, 05:34 PM
Did you try to use earlier nVidia drivers? Like the 3087 drivers was it? The ones before the 4191 ones.

Mandarb1
12-15-02, 05:36 PM
@tuxracer, I misread your post wrong :) I should have thought you used that transgaming app. I dont have much reason to pay for something like that because I can still boot into my Win2k partition and play games there :) If I was completely on Linux, I would definately use transgaming's app though.

tuxfriend
12-15-02, 06:04 PM
@Mandarb1

You dont have to pay for WineX,but I just want to test the rpms.

For me Linux works pretty well with gaming even at Lan-Partys.

I was at Quakecon this summer and believe me I did it with RedHat 7.3

only.

I am working on a linux gaming PC and with WineX I get some extra

games.

And Linux with WineX is a lot cheaper than any Windows,isnt it?

By the way,
I agree:never ever use the newest drivers.





cu tuxfriend

Mandarb1
12-15-02, 06:21 PM
hehe yeah WineX is much cheaper :) Im thinking about trying it though to play with it and mess around. But, I have yet to make a fake windows on my linux partition and I dont really want to use my windows partition for WineX. My friend did get Wine up and running and uses Trillian and he says that Wine doesnt really touch much of the Windows directory and he didnt create a fake windows drive. He just used one of the scripts for Wine. I might try to get it working though. But Im going to be pretty busy until next summer and wont have time to work on my computer :( I would do it now, but my time until then is limited...

Soul-Crusher
12-20-02, 05:56 PM
Bioware's working on a Neverwinter Nights (http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html) port as we speak.

Mandarb1
12-21-02, 10:27 AM
I wonder if you can use the Win32 cds or not though... I hope so and dont want to shell out another $50 just for a Linux version :)

Soul-Crusher
12-21-02, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Mandarb1
I wonder if you can use the Win32 cds or not though... I hope so and dont want to shell out another $50 just for a Linux version :)

For what, exactly?

For most Loki ports like Tribes 2, you must buy the Linux version. However, for games like Unreal Tournament and Unreal Tournament 2003, there are installers available for downlaod for Linux. You use the "Windows" CDs to install the game. Same goes for Quake 3. Download the point release and copy the pak0.pak file from the CD. The NeverWinter Nights port will also be done with an installer for Linux.

Mandarb1
12-21-02, 11:39 PM
Excellent. :) Well I used the term "Windows" because if I remember correctly, the installer was InstallShield and that wouldnt work in Linux. Although there is a program over at frankscorner.com that extracts the cab files..... but if they are .pak files, then it should work out with a simple Linux installer from the Windows cds. Its been awhile since i've looked at the NWN stuff though...

Soul-Crusher
12-22-02, 12:51 AM
http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html