Volcano 9 temp. probe

[EciDemon]

Regarding the Volcano 9 heatsink/fan.
I was wondering how one should install the temp probe correctly, Ive seen images sugesting it to be inserted Under the cpu, and red from other places that it should be placed on the cpu core.
Could someone shed some light on this for me ? :)
I probably end up using the HSF in max speed mode anyway, but it would be nice to know. (it will be mounted on an amd 2400+)

[LORD-eX-Bu]

hey someone help him, heh, I would like to know too.:D

[Smokey]

Read up here (http://www.gideontech.com/reviews/tt_volcano9s/)

[EciDemon]

Thank you for the help Smokey. Tho I have already red that review before when I tried to find more info about the hsf.
Ive also been trying to find tests on how the hsf performs on 2400+ cpus but the best I could find was 2000+ (or if it was 2100+).

As I sayd in my first post, Ill probably run the hsf in fullspeed mode. If I had found some tests with the 2400+ and the probe I might have chosen to use it.
This is not my biggest consurn right now.

I would however like to know info from anyone here who has experience with these HSF:s.

Thank you.
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EciDemon

[Smokey]

Your best place to head to would be ForumOC (www.forumoc.com) When it comes to overclocking, cpus, memory etc, forumoc is a great place, also AMDMB (http://www.amdmb.com)

[EciDemon]

Thanks again Smokey, You are really a big helper :)
This should keep me ocupied for a while :D
i just hope i get my money tomorrow so i can pickup all the things..

[Smokey]

I just read something very interesting ;)

This review (http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=review&dId=416&dPage=1)

of the Cooler Master HAC-V81 “XDream” HSF

and it does a fine job of cooling, better than the other one that you were looking at, and is only $15 according to the review! I might get one of these myself :D

[Daelemans_G]

I just put a Volcano 9 on a 2400+ (ASUS nforce2 board), and while it's pretty darn loud - it cools the CPU to around 37C under most conditions (compared to a volcano 6cu that cooled my 1800+ to about 44C). I haven't put it under any stress yet, so that 37C may not be realistic. All-in-all it looks as though there's some serious OC potential here.

[EciDemon]

Daelemans_G
Thanx for the info, Finaly I get to know :)
Btw, what did you use with the heatsink, the thermalpad/paste that comes with the heatsink or some other brand ?

Smokey>
I guess its too late for me, Ive already orderd the Volcano 9 :)

[Daelemans_G]

I used Arctic Silver 3... took a bit of extra time to apply it correctly too... (wound up doing it twice) ;)

[EciDemon]

Ive considerd buying arctic silver 3 as that seems to be what everyone uses.
But untill then, will the thermal pad be sufice ?
Also, ive red somewere that thermal paste should only be used when frequently removing the heatsink. and the pad for longtime use.
Do you know anything about that ?

[Daelemans_G]

I've built systems with both thermal pads and the standard "paste" included with the heatsink. I can't say one way or the other which is better. The Volcano 9 came with a small tube of paste (not a pad), so I had no choice but to apply paste - so I decided to use the Arctic Silver.

Now, I *do* have to say that 37C is the coolest I've had a CPU running in this particular case...

[EciDemon]

Thanks for the info :)
It really helps, Ive been quite worried actually. This is my first athlon cpu I ever install. my current comp. is an amd k6-2 475mhz ... hehe. .. ye old sloo one ;)
been reading some horror stories too about breaking the cpu core when installing the heatsink .... *hua!*
But Im quite excited too :) This will be a major speed bost for me. So I bought Ut2003 to have something cool to play when I get the new cpu :)

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I must say that Im very impressed by your cpu temp. too :)
I hope I get simalar results, would be cool.

I was thinking, could it be that the new xp2400+ just runns cooler ? Since it is a "new" design if I have understand it correctly.

The reason that Im impressed is cos Ive red quite a few test/reviews of the volcano 9 hfs. Those cpus were in general hotter while the cpu was "only" 1600+ to 2100+ ... so no test with the 2400+ cpu yet, from what Ive seen atleast

[Daelemans_G]

I'm sure there are folks around here who are much more expert, but I believe that the reason the 2400+ is running cooler than say an 1800+ is because the 2400+ is based upon the newer T-bred core...which is built on a smaller transistor process (0.13 micron?) than the older Palamino cores. Smaller process means less Heat/MHz (usually)... I'm sure that my old 1800+ was a Palamino since I've had it for over a year now...and that's why it ran hotter.

Any experts - feel free to chime in a correct me ;)

BTW - according to Asus probe, my 2400+ is running at 33C/91F right now...the weather just got a little cooler here in Wisconsin ;)

[EciDemon]

Whoo I got the Volcano 9 today
(still no Cpu thanx to the postal office sending it to wrong town!!)

Well I can confirm the noise level that is for sure :D

I decided to thest the fan so it really works before installing it (so I wont fry the new cpu)

So I connected it to the Case fan connector on my old computer.
MAN!!
It sounded just like our vaccumcleaner trying to takeoff! :D
I guess it will be alittle better once it is installed in the case.

I also tested the manual speed settings while looking in at the fan readings in the bios.
it should be 1300 to 4800 rpm acording to the box but I got the reading 15xx to 52xx rpm. Good for colling I guess.

Btw, in my box there was some thermal paste and a sticker.
I have no idea if this is actually the thermal pad (some review sites says that it should be shiped with one)
But it dosent look like those Ive seen preinstalled in heatsinks before.

This one is transparent, looks like silicon. It is very sticky on both sides.
eeh ... help anyone ?

I must say that you have all been of great help in this thread :)
Thank you soo much, all of you :)

[Smokey]

Good to hear you got it, does it look sexy :D Anyways just go with the paste, not the pad, and only apply a small amount on the core itself. By small I mean a small dab, then spread it evenly with you fingure, make sure that is isnt too thick as it will ooze out and onto the bridges and make a mess :eek:

[EciDemon]

Looks very sexy :D very big ... even sounds like the fat lady sings :D (havent been able to test the leds but im sure they are nice)

Thank you for the advice on how to apply the paste. I think ill go with that (im gonna check the store if they have something simalar to arctic silver).

I did notice on the copper base of the heatsink that it isnt polished. I actually think its rather rugh on the surface compared to the old heatsinks ive used before. But it should be ok I guess.

Perhaps Ill post a picture from inside the case when it is all complete ;)

Anyways .. Thanx a bunch for the advice :)

[woz_mann]

the review posted in gideontech was using a 1.4 t-bird. The 2400 runs a hell of a lot cooler then the 1.4 tbirds. I have read a review of a 2400 OCed to 2.3 running at 40 C under load, so you shouldn't have any probs with this heat sink. I just bought one myself for $16 at www.gameVE.com

[EciDemon]

Well your quite right. I run my cpu at stock speed now, using the volcano 9 at 3050 rpm for more quiet sound in the case. And still the cpu idle:s at 36c/96f and at load its not much higher. just above 40c maximum. So Im more than happy with it :)
Good to know that there is still alot more power in the fan if needed.

[Daelemans_G]

Well.... I was able to get my 2400+ up to 2.25GHz, but I couldn't quite get through 3DMarkSE, so I had to back it down to 2.175GHz (145MHz FSB) for stable operation under heavy load. Through all of this, the CPU never got above 38C.

I haven't increase Vcore yet, so I'm not done just yet ;) I expect that I can probably get stable at 2.25 (150FSB) without too much trouble. Of course, not being able to play with the multiplier is a bit dissapointing...but I'll keep my eyes open for a BIOS update that may fix this...cause I'm pretty sure the CPU itself is unlocked.

[fishlung]

If your motherboard supports measuring the temp from the sensor in the CPU die, you're better off going with that, since it's by far the most accurate. The probes, in my experience, seem to measure about 5 degrees cooler than it really is. I saw a recent comparison of various heatsinks (a few were newer Thermalright brand) and they were nice enough to also show different temperatures using different methods of measuring. Sorry, but I can't find the URL, or I'd share the info. :( Maybe someone else here knows what I'm referring to.

[Firelord-OCHW]

I've added a couple at work to high specced machines and have been VERY impressed for the price.

You do but the thermistor under the cpu and it adjusts the CPU accordingly :) On an XP2000+ in a mATX case with no other fans it run no hotter than about 39-40c :) The fan ran at a steady 1750-1800 rpm and when I added heat (in the form of a radiator) it kicked it up to 2750-3000 and kept it at 41-42c :)

When they hit full speed though geez their noisy little buggers :D

The pad that comes with it is so that you can mount the Thermistor under the CPU. The wires are thin enough that it allows them to pass through the pins of the CPU :)

My only qaulm with it is the tightness of the clip on the CPU and the awarkwardness of the clip :(

Great little coolers for the price