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mikedep333
06-23-05, 12:13 AM
Hey all.
Yeah, the launch of the 7800 GTX is indeed impressive, however I know at least two people that are serious about having a high-end card, but don't want to spend $600. $300-$400 is what they're looking for, and I was hoping this market segment would be occupied by a nice 7800 GT, plain 7800, or any other lower-end 7800 series card. Instead, despite reading through several articles on the 7800 GTX, there isn't any mention of such cards, although I have heard stuff on a 7800 ultra being released to compete with the R520. Have any of you guys heard any news on this subject?

BTW, if they do release cards in the $300-$400 price range, it will surely make the 6800GT and 6800 cheaper.

kev13dd
06-23-05, 12:46 AM
BTW, if they do release cards in the $300-$400 price range, it will surely make the 6800GT and 6800 cheaper.

Maybe, maybe not. It still costs the same amount to manufacture the 6800 series, so why lower the price and make a loss off it? If they lower it, more people will buy them, which means even bigger losses, and higher demand for those bigger losses...

My logic may be off, but I don't forsee a big drop anytime soon for them

K

particleman
06-23-05, 01:09 AM
I really don't see the point in lower end 7X00's although I am sure we will see some eventually. I mean really what is a 7800? It's a 6800 with more horsepower, the only major significant addition is TSAA (ie supersampling, the multisampling TSAA doesn't look that great) and I doubt a lower end 7X00 would have the muscle for supersampling like the 7800 does.

bkswaney
06-23-05, 02:02 AM
I really don't see the point in lower end 7X00's although I am sure we will see some eventually. I mean really what is a 7800? It's a 6800 with more horsepower, the only major significant addition is TSAA (ie supersampling, the multisampling TSAA doesn't look that great) and I doubt a lower end 7X00 would have the muscle for supersampling like the 7800 does.


I agree. The 6800 line should
still do fine for lower end parts.
I hope to see the 6800u's and GT's
drop in price now.

I would like to see a GT like 7800 with
all 24 pipes. Maybe 370 core and 1000 memory
much like the GT is now.

Nvidia could have the high end a GTX
then still have a GT and regular 7800.
Time will tell. :)

mikedep333
06-23-05, 03:18 AM
Maybe, maybe not. It still costs the same amount to manufacture the 6800 series, so why lower the price and make a loss off it? If they lower it, more people will buy them, which means even bigger losses, and higher demand for those bigger losses...

My logic may be off, but I don't forsee a big drop anytime soon for them

K
Yeah, it would cost the same or slightly less to manufacture 6800 series cards, but much of the "Cost" goes simply towards the research and development they've already done, so NVidia can still sell the 6800 series cards and make a profit. If NVidia does sell lower-end 7800 models, then the 6800 series cards will occupy the price range of like $200-$350, the 6600 series will be like $120-$200, and so on. Again, NVidia would still be profitable with this plan of offering a card range for everyone.

Probably they will create a 7600 series or so and kill off the 6800 series, but this is what theyd probably do with the 6800 series in the meantime.

I wasn't paying much attention to the FX 5900 series when the 6800 series came out, but I'm sure it went like this too.

On a side note, I am still perfectly satisfied with my 6800GT (256 megs.) It runs everything great on 1280x1024 with 2x AA, even Battlefield 2. I don't think the 7800GTX will be practical until later this year when games like Age of Empires 3 will be out, but lower-end 7800 cards would be very practical now.

Pandora's Box
06-23-05, 06:16 AM
from the FAQ at nvidia.com

Q: With the introduction of the GeForce 7800 GTX, does this mean you are discontinuing the GeForce 6 series?
No. The GeForce 7800 GTX will be NVIDIA's new flagship GPU, replacing the GeForce 6800 Ultra at the top of our product line. The other GeForce 6 Series GPUs including the GeForce 6800 GT and Standard, will remain in their respective segments.

Q: Is there a GeForce 7800 Ultra?
GeForce 7800 GTX is our top of the line. We had so much positive response for the GT SKU (single slot, great performance) that we wanted to build upon that success and brand. GeForce 7800 GTX takes NVIDIA's high end performance offering to the next level.

killahsin
06-23-05, 08:15 AM
I'm guessing the fall is when you will start to see your multiple versions of the 7800 comming out/introduced.

Dazz
06-23-05, 08:19 AM
There will still be 7800 i believe sure it's about making money, but the 6800GT and 6800 are the same as the 6800Ultra they are just defects of the 6800Ultra which. So they have them binned so they can at least recope some loses. Just like the X800XL.

rohit
06-23-05, 04:15 PM
the 7800 is a 16piped card. that would compete with their own 16piped 6800GT and Ultra. The 68GT and U have been such great seler, that at this moment introducing the 7800 will bring some trouble.

But the 7800GT should be launched. after all is a clocked down version of the GTX.

Probably they will create a 7600 series or so and kill off the 6800 series
the 7600 series (if exists and if introduced) wont match the 6800Gt or ultra. cant.

Holy Smoke
06-23-05, 04:56 PM
the 7600 series (if exists and if introduced) wont match the 6800Gt or ultra. cant.I read somewhere that they're looking at a 12 pipe card w/ 128-bit memory for the 7600-series. If they continue the 6600-series' trend of fewer pipes at a higher clockspeed, a 7600GT might actually come quite close to a 6800GT. A 12-pipe 7600GT at 500mhz would have a fill-rate of 6000mpix vs. the 6800GT's 5600mpix, and coupled with stronger shader performance, the bandwidth deficiency would become less of a factor.

Sort of what the Geforce2mx was to the Geforce DDR.