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ChrisRay
06-28-05, 09:05 AM
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543%7E99713,00.html

Anyone catch this?

saturnotaku
06-28-05, 09:10 AM
Good luck to AMD on that. I bet Chipzilla will settle out of court on this, though.

MUYA
06-28-05, 09:12 AM
/me points to the front page :)

Ninjaman09
06-28-05, 09:22 AM
Bastards. Figures, once they realized AMD could make far better processors than them they must have got scared real quick. :p

Tr1cK
06-28-05, 09:44 AM
Wasn't there some bill or something trying to be passed that opened up specifications to other companies? Like when the government was specifiying computers, they did so with Intel processors and such. I might be wrong, but I thought I heard somehting a month or so ago.

Dazz
06-28-05, 10:04 AM
This has been a long coming, lots of people have already spoken about it i wounder why it's taken AMD so long to go through with it?

Kamel
06-28-05, 10:33 AM
i don't know, but i know i'll probably never get an intel proc again... i totally agree that they have an unhealthy monopoly, and it blows my mind to see this happening when amd's technology is so much better. in laptops maybe not, but still laptops don't make up that high of a percentage of cpu sales.

Riptide
06-28-05, 10:35 AM
but still laptops don't make up that high of a percentage of cpu sales.
I seem to remember reading that laptop sales just recently surpassed desktop sales.

Dazz
06-28-05, 10:40 AM
Yeap but only just recently. This has been going on for years however.

Riptide
06-28-05, 10:42 AM
You guys who say you'd never get an Intel chip again are funny. :p

I'm sure if they came out with some uber kickass chip that beat down AMD's best you'd be all over it like flies on a rib roast.

Bluekkis
06-28-05, 10:44 AM
Biggest % of cpu sales comes off from server sales, far bigger than desktop or mobile segments.

This has been a long coming, lots of people have already spoken about it i wounder why it's taken AMD so long to go through with it?

IMO with the success of K8, AMD is doing financially better than ever before, and money is what they need to go against intel with endless pockets.


I kind of find it interesting that this is labelled as anti-trust. Sounds bribery as much as I've read about this.

Razor1
06-28-05, 10:54 AM
this isn't going to hurt Intel at all, its way too late for this kind of thing.

oldsk00l
06-28-05, 11:05 AM
If not for the fact that AMD has been thoroughly spanking Intel in making better desktop processors I'd call this a bunch of BS.

But, given that AMD makes genuinely better products and have enough capacity...it makes you wonder.

Zelda_fan
06-28-05, 11:05 AM
Makes a lot of sense. AMD simply makes superior products at a cheaper price so it seems kind of off that companies like Dell would go with Intel. However, cash payments to corporate CEOs means that they are gonna go Intel.

BrianG
06-28-05, 11:06 AM
This has been a long coming, lots of people have already spoken about it i wounder why it's taken AMD so long to go through with it?
Marketing. They have the speed edge in many market segments and now is the time to strike. Moreoever, the international watchdogs in Japan and the EU have made statelents lately that Intel is under investigation for strong-arming.

oldsk00l
06-28-05, 11:15 AM
You guys who say you'd never get an Intel chip again are funny. :p

I'm sure if they came out with some uber kickass chip that beat down AMD's best you'd be all over it like flies on a rib roast.
I'd take a Pentium M over a Turion anytime dude.

Zelda_fan
06-28-05, 11:18 AM
You know, I would like to read the full report of accusations on this thing. I would be $20 that Intel made some shady deal with Apple (who probably wanted to go AMD) to further strong arm AMD out of the market.

nVestor
06-28-05, 11:21 AM
I'd take a Pentium M over a Turion anytime dude.
I'd take a AMD64 mobile/Go 6800 over a Pentium M/Intel Xtreme Graphics anytime... if that was an option, ummm.. dude. :cool:

Bluekkis
06-28-05, 11:23 AM
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/AMD-Intel_Full_Complaint.pdf

Full pdf there, 48 pages oO

http://www.amdzone.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=6034&sid=572eab3420dba63219a27e2211f776ab

Some good quotes there form that pdf.

Zelda_fan
06-28-05, 11:26 AM
i think now would be a good time to buy AMD stock :D

six_storm
06-28-05, 11:27 AM
You guys who say you'd never get an Intel chip again are funny. :p

I'm sure if they came out with some uber kickass chip that beat down AMD's best you'd be all over it like flies on a rib roast.

Hahaha. I'm not too fond with Intel myself and I believe AMD kicks serious arse but I can tell you that I'd never buy another PC with Intel built in. Since I am a recent "switcher" and Apple has made the mistake (sorry, decision) to switch from PowerPC to Intel CPUs, I might have to purchase a new Apple computer in the future that unfortunatly runs on Intel CPUs. Oh well, if you can't beat em, join em.

Riptide
06-28-05, 12:12 PM
I will buy whatever chip has the best bang for the buck. Brand loyalty is the domain of fanboys.

Zelda_fan
06-28-05, 12:19 PM
I will buy whatever chip has the best bang for the buck. Brand loyalty is the domain of fanboys.

so bascially you just called anyone with a P4 a fanboy :D

Riptide
06-28-05, 12:28 PM
Some of them, yes... most definitely. :)

But then there are the unwashed masses who don't have a clue and just buy whatever comes with their Dell. Not sure the word fanboy would apply there. Words like ignorant come to mind.

oldsk00l
06-28-05, 12:44 PM
Here's a cut N paste from Hector' Ruiz' email

Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 28 2005 @ 08:55 AM EDT
Letter to Employees from Hector Ruiz:

A Call to Arms: Stand Up For What is Right

June 28, 2005


Dear Fellow Employees,



AMD is now an undeniable industry leader. In technology -- with our AMD64
technology and our move to dual-core processing. In manufacturing -- with our
world-class Fab 30 and Fab 36 as well as our Automated Precision Manufacturing
capability. And in marketing -- with examples like our AMD Athlon™ 64 FX, the
most powerful PC processor in the world; our upcoming Lance Armstrong Foundation
special edition LiveSTRONG laptop; and our global 50x15 commitment, which has
earned us great attention on a global stage.



With leadership comes additional responsibility -- specifically, the
responsibility to stand up for what we know is right. I am writing you today as
a call to arms, to encourage you to join me in standing up for what we know is
right -- for our customers, our business partners, our shareholders and us, the
great employees of AMD.



AMD has filed an antitrust suit against Intel in the U.S. district court in
Delaware to free this industry from monopolistic abuse. With this lawsuit we
want to ensure that our competitor is held accountable for its actions.



Intel’s unfair business practices continue to prevent AMD and other industry
players from competing effectively, and they hinder customers’ freedom to choose
the best available technology. This results in less innovation and higher prices
for customers worldwide.



Today, I will be hosting a videoconference for Sunnyvale and Austin employees to
explain the litigation, what it means for us and the industry, and to answer
questions. Tom McCoy, executive vice president of legal affairs, and chief
administrative officer, will join me in this briefing. For those of you who are
not based in Sunnyvale or Austin and would like to listen to the meeting, a
dial-in number has been provided to all global directors and vice presidents to
enable you to do so. In addition, a video webcast of the meeting will be
available on AMD Online within one to two days.



As we work toward our victorious day in court, we will need to continue to
execute diligently through what will be a long legal process with its inevitable
share of highs and lows. But either we take on this fight now, or surrender
ourselves to the crippling grips of a monopolist that can and will ultimately
obliterate the very things we hold so dear -- innovation and the fundamental
freedom of choice. Our reason for being is to follow our customer-centric
innovation philosophy and bring the best products to market. We have everything
it takes to do so, and indeed, we’ve never been stronger. It’s now or never.



So thank you for all you’ve done and all you will continue to do to help ensure
that we, our customers and our industry, once and for all, can break free.



Hector Ruiz