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walterman
07-04-05, 04:18 AM
Hi,

i'm going to buy a full new system & i've some doubts about memory.

I want to run 2GB of ram in the new system, & i've 2 choices:

4 x 512 MB modules or 2 x 1 GB modules.

Mobo is Asus A8N-SLI Premium, & it has 4 memory modules, & as i know, the voltaje can be raised till 3.0V (not sure about this).

With 2x1GB, i should be able to upgrade to 4GB in the future if needed, for example, but as i've read, these 1GB modules are usually slower. I was thinking in Corsair XMS DIMM 2 GB DDR400, 2x1GB, TWINX2048-3200C2. But I've read in Corsair page that these modules run with CAS 2.5 in Athlon64 systems @ 400MHz.

With 4x512MB, no more memory upgrades in the future, (i'll need to buy new memory cause all slots will be full). I was thinking in 2x OCZ DIMM 1 GB (DDR400, Platinum Edition EL, 2x512MB) 2-3-2-5. These modules can run with CAS 2 @ 400 Mhz & they raise easily to 250 Mhz with CAS 2.5, as i've read in some reviews.

So, what should i do ? 2GB should be enough for 32bit gaming, cause, Win32 cannout use process size bigger than 2GB, but, as you know, you never have enough ram for windows in your system. I also plan to use the new computer for 2 years, without any major upgrade.

Does anybody know any good 2x1GB modules for CAS2 @ 400Mhz in A64 systems ?

Thank you very much !

Rytr
07-04-05, 05:53 AM
Might want to read through this current thread: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=52782&page=1&pp=15

jAkUp
07-04-05, 11:46 AM
2x1gb modules, it should actually be faster than 4x512mb's. Reason is you will not have to go down to 2T timings, that makes a bigger impact than the CL latency.

I have 4x512's and I am forced to go down to 2T timings, I lost a bunch of memory bandwith :( Sucks, but I have to live with it unless I get 2 sticks.

superklye
07-04-05, 11:49 AM
2x1gb modules, it should actually be faster than 4x512mb's. Reason is you will not have to go down to 2T timings, that makes a bigger impact than the CL latency.

I have 4x512's and I am forced to go down to 2T timings, I lost a bunch of memory bandwith :( Sucks, but I have to live with it unless I get 2 sticks.
I thought the 1GB modules had lower latencies anyway and forced you to 2T regardless? I could've sworn I read that in a few threads...

fastguy94416
07-04-05, 12:17 PM
Nah, you can use 1T with 1gb DIMM's

Alright...

superklye
07-04-05, 12:50 PM
Nah, you can use 1T with 1gb DIMM's
Effin A, Cotton, eff-in-A!

$n][pErMan
07-04-05, 02:34 PM
I've been wondering this myself as I can get another gig and have 4 512's ... or just get 2 sticks of a gig and use that .. or combine that with my 512's and have 3 gigs! Im looking to be able to use it in the future though.

walterman
07-04-05, 07:36 PM
So, what modules to buy for : 2x1GB, 250 MHz - CAS 2.5 ?

SLippe
07-04-05, 10:00 PM
I plan on getting 3x1gb sticks of pc3200 to max my mobo out soon.

-=DVS=-
07-04-05, 11:04 PM
OCZ got nice 2-3-2-5 1T , 1gig sticks @ DDR400(3200).

oC|-TiTaN
07-04-05, 11:32 PM
that's what I'm gettin :) (OCZ)

saturnotaku
07-04-05, 11:44 PM
So, what modules to buy for : 2x1GB, 250 MHz - CAS 2.5 ?

Don't think any such modules exist. 1 GB don't have nearly the overclocking headroom that 512 MB ones do. Crucial makes some memory that is DDR500 rated at 3-4-4-8 timings, but that's about the best you're going to do.

jAkUp
07-05-05, 01:27 AM
Holy crap Saturn! You are right! I just looked on Crucial's site! OMG I want those sooo bad :(

Roch
07-05-05, 04:44 AM
I've got 2x1gig sticks of Crucial Ballistix PC4000's. At 200 they are running at 2-2-2-8, 1T 2.7v. I've not OCed them yet as I'm waiting for a new CPU. On XS there's a thread where people are getting good results with them.

muaddib
07-05-05, 08:17 AM
If you want to 2GB, Crucial's Ballistix is the only (PROPER) way to go.
Too bad that every kind of 2gb set sucks in OCing compared to 1GB.
I suggest that if you're OCing buy a good 1GB 2-2-2 set before DDR2 comes.

Eventually though, you will get a much more pleasing gaming experience w/ 2gb @ 2t rather than 1gb @ 1t, in such games as BF2.

Superfly
07-05-05, 08:58 AM
I've got 2x1gig sticks of Crucial Ballistix PC4000's. At 200 they are running at 2-2-2-8, 1T 2.7v. I've not OCed them yet as I'm waiting for a new CPU. On XS there's a thread where people are getting good results with them.

Ballisix RAM pwns - exceptional overclocking and great timings (bit expensive though)

Superfly
07-05-05, 09:02 AM
2x1gb modules, it should actually be faster than 4x512mb's. Reason is you will not have to go down to 2T timings, that makes a bigger impact than the CL latency.

I have 4x512's and I am forced to go down to 2T timings, I lost a bunch of memory bandwith :( Sucks, but I have to live with it unless I get 2 sticks.

I run with 4 dimms and still get 1T - not everything in PC's, especially memory is black and white.

Intel's chipsets are much more flexible with this than the current A64 chipsets.

jAkUp
07-05-05, 11:19 AM
Yea well, I'm talking on an A64 chipset. I still think Intel chipsets are the best, most flexible boards you can buy.

saturnotaku
07-05-05, 11:48 AM
Not to mention stable as well.

Riptide
07-05-05, 12:08 PM
Kinda OT but that's also one of the reasons Apple got in bed with Intel instead of AMD. They don't want to cozy up to someone else for a chipset, NVidia, ATI or VIA for that matter. W/Intel they get the whole package from a single vendor. That is an advantage.

jAkUp
07-05-05, 12:27 PM
Kinda OT but that's also one of the reasons Apple got in bed with Intel instead of AMD. They don't want to cozy up to someone else for a chipset, NVidia, ATI or VIA for that matter. W/Intel they get the whole package from a single vendor. That is an advantage.

hmmm.. havent thought about that, but it makes lots of sense ;)

BrianG
07-05-05, 01:42 PM
So back on topic, I am looking at going to 2x1GB sticks. I would prefer aggressive timings at 200MHz. Suggestions?

I was thinking the 2-3-3-6 Corsair XMS 2BG Kit. I don't know if I trust OCZ.

jAkUp
07-05-05, 01:46 PM
Go with the Ballistics. You should be able to get great timings with those :)

Roch
07-05-05, 01:48 PM
Like I said previously, 2-2-2-8 1t at 2.7v with the Ballistix. :D

BrianG
07-05-05, 01:50 PM
Go with the Ballistics. You should be able to get great timings with those :)
Wow, Crucial is proud of that stuff.

I can get 2x1GB 2-3-3-6 for $226 vs. one stick o' the Ballistix for $183.