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zoomy942
07-11-05, 02:22 PM
If you look at my sig, my pc does okay for herself, but i have come across an opportunity to get into pci express, for minimal cost. the mobo would cost zero, and the video card would depend. I dont like the industry giong that way, but as an enthusiast, i am going to flow with it.

here is my quandry...

if i go for it, i will get an epox pciE board, with the nforce 4 chipset. the thing is, until the rest of my plans go along.. i will have to use a 6600GT (which in dont have just yet, but i will get) until i can get a 6800PCIE or a 7800 PCIE.

now, the 6600 gt is not a bad card at all, and for me it may be fine. i play games at 1280x1024 with no aa or af turned on. i havent tested very much with the 6600gt, so my question is..

first, what are your opinions on this line of thinking? if i am off my rocker, by all means let me know.

also, how is the 6600gt is real world gaming at 1280x1024 with no aa or af?

$n][pErMan
07-11-05, 02:34 PM
your current system would beat the system your getting :p If its free... what the hell right? But why downgrade... unless right away your going to jump into the 7800GTX or very shortly after you get that rig...

-=DVS=-
07-11-05, 02:34 PM
In demanding games twice as slow as GT i imagine. Oh and PCI-X != PCI-E

rewt
07-11-05, 02:36 PM
Downgrading to a 6600 GT just to use PCI-e. You're nutz :p

LiquidX
07-11-05, 02:42 PM
If you dont game past 1280x1024 I wouldnt do the upgrade. Going from what you have now to 6800PCIX or a 7800 GTX PCIe to continue gaming at 1280x1024 will bring you almost no performance difference in any and coupled with the fact you will have to downgrade to a 6600 then spend more to get a pcix card is not cost effective at all. I dont see any reason to jump to PCIefor the sake of just having a PCIe system if your upgrades after the jump will bring no performance gains.

zoomy942
07-11-05, 02:42 PM
[pErMan']your current system would beat the system your getting :p If its free... what the hell right? But why downgrade... unless right away your going to jump into the 7800GTX or very shortly after you get that rig...


thats the thing.. i want to jump into that7800GTX before too long. ahhhhh, i just dont know

zoomy942
07-11-05, 02:44 PM
If you dont game past 1280x1024 I wouldnt do the upgrade. Going from what you have now to 6800PCIX or a 7800 GTX PCIX to continue gaming at 1280x1024 will bring you almost no performance difference in any and coupled with the fact you will have to downgrade to a 6600 then spend more to get a pcix card is not cost effective at all. I dont see any reason to jump to PCIX for the sake of just having a PCIX system if your upgrades after the jump will bring no performance gains.


if i get a 7800 at some point, i will certainly use aa and af, i just dont now cause i dont want a performance hit.

muaddib
07-11-05, 02:54 PM
You're referring to PCI-E. PCI-X is a whole different thing, used for servers. Aside from a nVidia marketing absurdity, of course. :D

zoomy942
07-11-05, 03:03 PM
port edited.. lol, i work with servers and i didnt even notice my mistake :)

BrianG
07-11-05, 03:04 PM
If you are getting a free mobo, sell your 6800GT and current mobo to pay for the 6800GT PCIE.

Check this out...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150091

That would not suck to use in the mean time.

zoomy942
07-11-05, 03:12 PM
If you are getting a free mobo, sell your 6800GT and current mobo to pay for the 6800GT PCIE.

Check this out...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150091

That would not suck to use in the mean time.



hmmmmm...

BrianG
07-11-05, 03:41 PM
hmmmmm...
The other option is to just start saving your pennies for an all new system. You could upgrade CPU or memory in the mean time maybe that could port over. Basically, buy stuff to prepare for the 7800GTX and mobo upgrade. And get an SLI board to future proof a little.

zoomy942
07-11-05, 03:54 PM
The other option is to just start saving your pennies for an all new system. You could upgrade CPU or memory in the mean time maybe that could port over. Basically, buy stuff to prepare for the 7800GTX and mobo upgrade. And get an SLI board to future proof a little.


thats a thought also.. but i'm not too much into SLI, and my memory is good and all that. i could just not do anything.. i just see the chance and i might do it. i dont know...

5150 Joker
07-11-05, 04:02 PM
The advantage of upgrading right now is that you can sell all your AGP stuff right now for a somewhat decent price and get enough money to buy something new. If you wait longer, its value will continue to plummet and you will end up having to replace everything out of pocket. My advice is to take that into consideration and then decide what you want to do. In my case I opted to sell everything I had and go to PCI-e with a 7800 GTX. If you can't afford a nice PCI-e card, go to one of the popular forums like Anandtech (or even here) and look for someone that may be selling a 6800/x800 PCI-e card for a good price.

If you decide to upgrade, I highly recommend you buy a DFI Lanparty SLI motherboard, they are fantastic! An antec true power 2.0 or smartpower 2.0 are good choices for a PSU.

zoomy942
07-11-05, 04:07 PM
i think thats what i am gonna do.. get new mobo, not sure if it wil be SLI, and sell my mobo and video card. my cpu is fine for now, but it would be a bottleneck for SLI, and i have plenty of ram.

i just gotta decide what to do about my video card... thats the tough part

ChrisRay
07-11-05, 09:59 PM
You may as well get an SLI mobo IMO. The price variance isnt that high and you add upgradability/versatility to a setup. The motherboard is likely your longest standing piece of equipment that will survive many upgrade transistions. So buying a cheap one is ill advised IMO. May as well get a really good one.

zoomy942
07-11-05, 11:16 PM
thats true. SLI may not be something i would look at, but hell, to have the option would be nice. and i dont HAVE to use the other slot anyway.

macatak
07-12-05, 06:08 AM
thats true. SLI may not be something i would look at, but hell, to have the option would be nice.
You might need that extra slot when Ureal3 games come out :D

zoomy942
07-12-05, 09:12 AM
thats true.

Now i need to keep my eyes open for a pcie card

Euphoric
07-12-05, 12:42 PM
Finding a used EVGA 6800GT PCI-E with a Zalman VF700-Cu thats only about 4 months old should be pretty easy to find. **cough** **cough**

SquireSCA
07-12-05, 10:39 PM
I am in the same boat. I have a s478 Prescott running at 3.8Ghz, a 6800GT running at Ultra speeds and 1GB of PC4200. But I have a 20.1" widescreen LCD that has a native rez of 1680x1050. Not a problem for this card, untill I try to use 4xFSAA/16xAniso in games like Doom3, Far Cry, Painkiller, etc... Then it bogs down.

So for me, a 7800GTX makes sense, but I am pissed that NVidia refuses to put out an AGP version. So I am not going to scrap a good mobo, wicked fast CPU and a Gig of good RAM, just to get that card. I refuse to spend over a grand for basically a video upgrade.

So I am forced to wait for the new ATI card(R520) which I am told will be offered in AGP.

CR0C0DILE
07-12-05, 11:51 PM
The 6800 GT will run battlefield 2 at 1280x960 without fsaa or anisotropy with good smoothness.
Would the 6600 gt do this? I seriously doubt it. But it may run older games just fine like Half life 1. So it depends what games you want to play.

CaptNKILL
07-13-05, 12:02 AM
The 6800 GT will run battlefield 2 at 1280x960 without fsaa or anisotropy with good smoothness.
Would the 6600 gt do this? I seriously doubt it. But it may run older games just fine like Half life 1. So it depends what games you want to play.
My 6800GT runs BF2 at 1280x960 with 8xAF at all high (besides lighting, thats medium) and its very very smooth. I set 4xAA once too and it was playable.

The 6800GT is no slouch, niether is the 6600GT. A 6600GT could deffinitely play the game smoothly at 1280x960 with no aa or af and slightly lower graphics settings (because of the 128Mb of memory).

bkswaney
07-13-05, 12:54 AM
Downgrading to a 6600 GT just to use PCI-e. You're nutz :p


I'm doing about the same thing. "lol"
Sold my GT.
But for me I had rather have a couple of months
of slower gaming and then pickup a 7800GT
when I save the funds up. :)

It just cost so much to go PCI-E.
It's a whole new system from the ground up
to switch over. That's a lot to spend at one time. :(

zoomy942
07-13-05, 08:51 AM
well, soon i will be adding the 2 AGP 6800GT's i have in the for sale/trade section.

my mobo might make it in there too. with the price drops of the 7800, i am going to try and snag one of those.