A reminder of who the enemy is and what he respresents

[evilchris]

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6537.htm

That's Osama's letter to America. Have a read about what islam is all about.

[Zelda_fan]

How long is it going to take until a sniper puts this guy out of his misery.

[Rakeesh]

What I find ironic in this whole thing is that when you tell most liberals what osama wants: for the death of the jews, and for america to convert to islam, they don't believe you. Yet straight from the rats mouth...


As for the first question: Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple:

(1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

a) You attacked us in Palestine:

(i) Palestine, which has sunk under military occupation for more than 80 years. The British handed over Palestine, with your help and your support, to the Jews, who have occupied it for more than 50 years;

Something like "a picture is worth a thousand words" seems appropriate here.

(f) You have starved the Muslims of Iraq, where children die every day. It is a wonder that more than 1.5 million Iraqi children have died as a result of your sanctions, and you did not show concern.

The UN, which the liberals love, was the cause of this, saddam made it happen...and guess what the ultimate irony is? Bush put a stop to it in 2003, about a year after this letter was written.

(Q2) As for the second question that we want to answer: What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?

(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.

(a) The religion of the Unification of God; of freedom from associating partners with Him, and rejection of this; of complete love of Him, the Exalted; of complete submission to His Laws; and of the discarding of all the opinions, orders, theories and religions which contradict with the religion He sent down to His Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Islam is the religion of all the prophets, and makes no distinction between them - peace be upon them all.

Now what was their primary desire again according to popular liberal oppinion; something about us to stop oppressing them? Are you sure it doesn't have something to do maybe them wanting to opress us?

(a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.

I am sure liberals would love that, must be the reason they feel so much sympathy towards muslims.

(i) You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator. You flee from the embarrassing question posed to you: How is it possible for Allah the Almighty to create His creation, grant them power over all the creatures and land, grant them all the amenities of life, and then deny them that which they are most in need of: knowledge of the laws which govern their lives?

Now if that isn't a call to end democracy, I don't know what is.

(ii) You are the nation that permits Usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy and investments on Usury. As a result of this, in all its different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense; precisely what Benjamin Franklin warned you against.

Again, more hate for the jews. You have to give him some credit though, he does study more American history than most liberals do.

Who can forget your President Clinton's immoral acts committed in the official Oval office? After that you did not even bring him to account, other than that he 'made a mistake', after which everything passed with no punishment. Is there a worse kind of event for which your name will go down in history and remembered by nations?

LOL :D

[UDawg]

Notice that every thing Usoma says is because we attacked them first. He keeps saying he is defending Islam. We attacked him. This is the same phychotic crap that Mohammed said when he was unfortunatly alive. Muslims today say the exact same BS.

[Acid Rain]

What I find ironic in this whole thing is that when you tell most liberals what osama wants: for the death of the jews, and for america to convert to islam, they don't believe you. Yet straight from the rats mouth... What??? Dude, I don't know who you hang with, but I have never met anyone from either camp that doesn't want Osama's head on a platter.

Sympathy for muslims? Again, everyone I know borderline hates muslims. Where do you find all these freaky libs?

As a straight wing U.S. citizen, I want Osama and his little punks washed off the face of the Earth. That's what we needed to do long ago. We needed to finish it before starting something else. That is my only real beef with the way we've handled things. Priorities.

[Rakeesh]

Sympathy for muslims? Again, everyone I know borderline hates muslims. Where do you find all these freaky libs?

I want to know where you don't find them. Every single liberal I have met thinks that all we need to do is send them hugs and kisses and leave the middle east and then all will be forgiven.

You ever read democraticunderground or (*shudder*) comments in the politics secton of slashdot.org? When they read comments from osama, they generally respond to the effect that they don't like the guy, but they agree or respond to "he has a point" to about 75% of the things he says. Ironically, feminists are the worst.

And when you tell them that the terrorists seek to eliminate democracy and chose a "convert to islam or die" policy, they believe that you are lieing and/or are using rhetoric, but it is the absolute honest to god truth.

Example (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=648342&postcount=48).

How they can be so damn ignorant is beyond me.

[evilchris]

Hah, nice find Alpha. Zakelwe quote:

Please link to the bigger known terrorists who say their aim is for the west to become a nation of islam.

Hope he reads Osama's letter.

[Rakeesh]

Hah, nice find Alpha. Zakelwe quote:



Hope he reads Osama's letter.

Yeah, note I didn't even reply to that post either. When people don't keep up with current events, theres no point.

[evilchris]

Interesting that the US media never really showed this. They wouldn't want the liberals looking bad now would they..... since they want to brainwash America into thinking islam is the "religion of peace".

[Rakeesh]

The only thing even close to that is that sometimes they use quotes or sound bites of Bush saying that they have declared a war on democracy and a war on freedom. But liberals I have come across don't even know why he says this; they just snicker thinking that he is just saying these things out of spite.

[Sazar]

Al-Qaeda was setup initially to rock the house of Saud. They obviously took a detour somewhere down the line.

Apparently they discovered that if you dig far enough back you can find some crap to blame on someone and blow sh!t up i.e. isabella and ferdinand in spain and so on, so forth.

Right now anger at america and israel happens to be good propaganda. Hopefully the marines seeking this terrorist will find him soon. Porter Goss said he has a good idea where OBL is. Hopefully he does.

As an aside, the g8 pledged $50 billion to the whole of Africa in aid. They pledged $3 or 4 billion to the palestine cause for a free state. How that equates to attacking I don't know, and how a small non-existent country somehow qualifies for more aid than similarly sized and far more impoverished nations in Africa is beyond comprehension.

[evilchris]

Palastine needs to be firebombed and bulldozed. They are more racist than Nazi's.

[Sazar]

Palastine needs to be firebombed and bulldozed. They are more racist than Nazi's.

I would wager you are also more racist than the Nazi's, but then I am just basing it on your posts. You might be a much nicer person in real life.

[evilchris]

I just hate islam and all that it stands for. People who follow the religion I find to be the scourge of the Earth. I'm white, I married a Chinese woman, half of my closest friends are black, and I respect every other religious belief. islam though, needs to die. More racist than Nazi's? Whatever.

[zakelwe]

Hah, nice find Alpha. Zakelwe quote:



Hope he reads Osama's letter.


Well I read it and I am not sure if it came from them or not but even if it did then most of it is to do with the USA in the middle east and not the USA in the USA

(Q1) Why are we fighting and opposing you?
Q2)What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?

As for the first question: Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple, they said:

(1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

Nothing to do with chagning the way of life in the USA at all

The rest of it is to do with the mddile east all down to Q2, nothing to do with the USA

In Q2 it tells you what they want to do

(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.

That's what they want, but as Islam is growing in the USA I doubt they will need to do anything on this account, certainly not act as terrorists to FORCE YOU ?

(a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.

Sounds very much like right wing Christianity to me...... amazing how a religion not based on the same God ;) ends up with very similar goals ?!

Notice how they put the USA second to the middle east first in their ordering of claims ? You see, like I said before the main driving aim of these people is

1) Remove US and western influcence from the traditional Muslim area in the middle east and near east

2) Convert the entire area into one huge Caliphiate under Shariah law.


Unfortunately for them #2 is well out of reach, if the USA/UK reduced #1 then they would only have #2 to concentrate on and then they would have to battle against young muslims not wanting that sort of lifestyle, which they do not :)

That would really pull the rug from underneath them. But instead of this long term goal we just go charging in there giveing them extra reasons to keep on fighting.

Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

Yeah, note I didn't even reply to that post either. When people don't keep up with current events, theres no point.

Keeping up with current events ? Yes you do but your morals and ideals are still in the 19thC much like these extreme Islamic terrorists IMO ..

so yeah there is no point ...

Regards
Andy

[zakelwe]

Palastine needs to be firebombed and bulldozed. They are more racist than Nazi's.



They are worse than Nazi's according to you so you subscribe to a Nazi type final solution.

Errr .....

I'm glad you have no real power in the world and just have to make ill thought out and illogical posts to web sites :D

Regards

Andy

[Son Goku]

I just hate islam and all that it stands for. People who follow the religion I find to be the scourge of the Earth. I'm white, I married a Chinese woman, half of my closest friends are black, and I respect every other religious belief. islam though, needs to die. More racist than Nazi's? Whatever.

No offence, but this does sound a tad racist... I don't like the actions of Osama, or Zarkawi in the least; but I wouldn't go around hating an entire people because of this horrible man...

[saturnotaku]

Islam is not a race, people. It's a religious philosophy. Don't like islam? Biased, yes. Racist, hardly.

[CybrSage]

I don't like the actions of Osama, or Zarkawi in the least;


Heh...at first reading I thought you said you did not like Osama, or Zakelwe

:D

[sytaylor]

Muslims today say the exact same BS.

Terrorists today say the exact same thing, Muslims tend to bemoan the situation in the ME, but do not believe they were attacked first nessaserily.

[Rakeesh]

Well I read it and I am not sure if it came from them or not but even if it did then most of it is to do with the USA in the middle east and not the USA in the USA

(Q1) Why are we fighting and opposing you?
Q2)What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?

As for the first question: Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple, they said:

(1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

Nothing to do with chagning the way of life in the USA at all

The rest of it is to do with the mddile east all down to Q2, nothing to do with the USA

In Q2 it tells you what they want to do

(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.

That's what they want, but as Islam is growing in the USA I doubt they will need to do anything on this account, certainly not act as terrorists to FORCE YOU ?

(a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.

Sounds very much like right wing Christianity to me...... amazing how a religion not based on the same God ;) ends up with very similar goals ?!

Notice how they put the USA second to the middle east first in their ordering of claims ? You see, like I said before the main driving aim of these people is

1) Remove US and western influcence from the traditional Muslim area in the middle east and near east

2) Convert the entire area into one huge Caliphiate under Shariah law.


Unfortunately for them #2 is well out of reach, if the USA/UK reduced #1 then they would only have #2 to concentrate on and then they would have to battle against young muslims not wanting that sort of lifestyle, which they do not :)

That would really pull the rug from underneath them. But instead of this long term goal we just go charging in there giveing them extra reasons to keep on fighting.

Regards

Andy

You know, all you are doing is proving my point.

[UDawg]

Terrorists today say the exact same thing, Muslims tend to bemoan the situation in the ME, but do not believe they were attacked first nessaserily.
No, I am saying that Muslims say the same thing that Mohammed was attacked and acting in self defence. They say that the reason they conquered the ME and the holy land was in self defence. It is self delusionment. Every time you talk to them about this time period they say they were attacked.

[evilchris]

No offence, but this does sound a tad racist... I don't like the actions of Osama, or Zarkawi in the least; but I wouldn't go around hating an entire people because of this horrible man...

As saturn pointed out, islam is not a race.

[sytaylor]

No, I am saying that Muslims say the same thing that Mohammed was attacked and acting in self defence. They say that the reason they conquered the ME and the holy land was in self defence. It is self delusionment. Every time you talk to them about this time period they say they were attacked.

Ok yeah, in the historical essence you are correct.