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DaveW
07-14-05, 09:13 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4682533.stm


Senator Hillary Clinton has stepped into the controversy over sex scenes in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

The senator wants the US Federal Trade Commission to find out who put the explicit material in the game.

The US Entertainment Software Rating Board is already investigating GTA maker Rockstar over the matter.

Rockstar has denied that it included the graphic content in San Andreas and has instead accused hackers of altering the code.

Test case

The controversy about the Hot Coffee mod broke earlier this week with the ESRB's announcement of its investigation.

The board wants to find out if Rockstar broke rules that demand it tell industry regulations if such material is included in games.

The downloadable mod was put together by Dutch GTA fan Patrick Wildenborg and is said to unlock mini-games in the recently-released PC version of San Andreas that lets players make game characters have sex.

The ESRB wants to work out if the sexual content was in the game all along but hidden or if the mod adds it.

For its part Rockstar said that the Hot Coffee mod only works because hackers took apart, rebuilt and then recompiled the game's underlying computer code.

Hackers had gone to "significant trouble to alter scenes in the official version of the game," Rockstar said in a statement.

Mr Wildenborg said all the scenes unlocked by the mod were in the original game but were simply inaccessible.

Rockstar said it was looking into ways to change San Andreas to stop the Hot Coffee mod working.

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vampireuk
07-14-05, 10:24 AM
Shouldn't she be off building a gulag somewhere?

Gator
07-14-05, 10:41 AM
so stupid... u can have the worlds most violent video game filled with guns, murder, car jacking, etc... but a little sex and GOD FORBID!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The issue should simply be dropped. :thumbdwn:

Gnu_Raiz
07-14-05, 11:03 AM
From a marketing point of view this is a gold mine, how many young little teenagers want this game now? Game has sexual content with a mod sweet, I can see the boys run to the gameshop just to get a copy.

Now you have Hillary jump on this hot subject, what better publicity can you get! I think this is a little ironic, as the Clintons are in bed with Hollywood. If she gets upset about this, why not get upset at movies that have sexual content, it not like the game was ill marked.

Its kind of like going to a rated R movie and complaining about the sexual content in the movie. The game was rated, it warned about its content, how many young boys see rated R movies?

Too me this makes Hillary look like a bumpkin, its ok for hollywood, but not for the game industry? Just think how many young teens will be of voter age in 3 years, this seems like it could upset a demographic that she needs.

Gnu_Raiz

saturnotaku
07-14-05, 11:12 AM
Just think how many young teens will be of voter age in 3 years, this seems like it could upset a demographic that she needs.

We can only hope.

Rakeesh
07-14-05, 12:12 PM
This is nothing short of a bid to try to get some groups of conservatives on her side in the future. Make no mistake about it, she will be running for the 08 democrat primaries at the very least.

XP_GUN
07-14-05, 12:42 PM
What now shes going after nvidia for the dawn trick if she ever finds out :screwy:

Zelda_fan
07-14-05, 12:48 PM
I absolutly HATE Hillary Clinton, but I have to say I agree with her on this issue.

And R rated movies don't actually show GRAPHIC sex. You will never see any groin action between two people or it's XXX pr0n. From what I heard, this mod let you have a look at the "goods."

I personally think Rockstar ought to be sanctioned for this crap. It's bad enough they make a game about shooting the men and women who protect our cities from criminals, and now this?

jAkUp
07-14-05, 01:08 PM
Its a game though, her breasts have like 3 polygons.. lol :D I mean, the guy is still wearing clothes, and it just shows her breasts. Thats it. She gives him head, and have sex. While the guy is clothed. Nothing too explicit.

How many movies are about shooting cops and stuff? Plus, nobody said you had to shoot the cops, the game is a very free game.

Marcos
07-14-05, 01:50 PM
I for one would not want to see hilary clinton in a sex scene.


You can all thank me for the mental image later ;)

Rakeesh
07-14-05, 02:38 PM
I absolutly HATE Hillary Clinton, but I have to say I agree with her on this issue.

And R rated movies don't actually show GRAPHIC sex. You will never see any groin action between two people or it's XXX pr0n. From what I heard, this mod let you have a look at the "goods."

I personally think Rockstar ought to be sanctioned for this crap. It's bad enough they make a game about shooting the men and women who protect our cities from criminals, and now this?

The thing is though, this feature can't be enabled without modifying the game. Technically almost every modern PC game should have an adults only rating then, because all somebody has to do is develop some kind of nudity modification for it. Granted the content was already there, it still requires external measures that are not part of the game in order to actually see it.

ATI_Dude
07-14-05, 03:42 PM
so stupid... u can have the worlds most violent video game filled with guns, murder, car jacking, etc... but a little sex and GOD FORBID!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The issue should simply be dropped. :thumbdwn:

Couldn't have said it better myself. As a European I simply cannot understand why U.S. legislation is so obsessed with sex and on the other hand allow explicit violence in games and movies as well as easy purchase of firearms.

Pafet
07-14-05, 04:38 PM
If you have access to the internet for sownloading the mod, you can do better than this porn-wise :D

What now shes going after nvidia for the dawn trick if she ever finds out :screwy:
lol. Also tomb radier nude patch. That was hilarious

$n][pErMan
07-14-05, 06:25 PM
Just more stupid people with stupid ideas to try and control people who are stupid enough to let it happen :( Lets hope someone smart steps in to shut this stupid woman up :mad: :p BTW .. this should probably be in a politics thread .. lol.

Blackcat
07-14-05, 06:58 PM
How can she be offended by a video game after her husband gets a BJ and uses his "cigar" on his intern? What a stupid bitch. :thumbdwn:

superklye
07-14-05, 08:07 PM
Shouldn't she be off building a gulag somewhere?
I got a cramp from laughing so hard at this...thanks. :)

DarthBinky
07-15-05, 11:45 AM
How can she be offended by a video game after her husband gets a BJ and uses his "cigar" on his intern? What a stupid bitch. :thumbdwn:

It's a similar issue. Bill didn't come with an appropriate warning label either.

Slyder
07-15-05, 04:23 PM
The ESRB wants to work out if the sexual content was in the game all along but hidden or if the mod adds it.

So what if it was there already. :confused:

Films of the same rating are allowed to have sex, so why not games with the same rating. Why should it be one rule for one and one for the other :confused: (oh cause kids can play GTA)... hate to break it to those peeps, but kids can download porn of kazaa. :rolleyes:

A pathetic subject...

jolle
07-15-05, 04:47 PM
Bottom line from hillary would be:
Go ahead and kill cops and civilians, steal and cause utter mayhem if you must, but if your under age, DO NOT, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WATCH PORNOGRAPHIC MATERIAL, even if its a digital representation and not acctual people.

Good show, your a real benefit to mankind for this, the world will definatly be a better place if they can pin this mod on Rockstar.. :mad:

lightman
07-15-05, 05:59 PM
It's bad enough they make a game about shooting the men and women who protect our cities from criminals, and now this?

About shooting the men and women who protect our cities from criminals ?!?!?!

I think we've played two different games...

I don't recall killing cops being what these games are about. Sure, you can kill cops, and so ? You can, not you must.

Moreover. I played a lot of "cops and robbers" when I was 5-10 (almost always playing the robber), and I always play the nazi in RtCW:ET, and yeah, I killed cops in GTA III (and I beat *****s, too), but that doesn't mean I go around robbing, burning jews, shooting at cops and fscking and then beating the hell out of *****s in order to steal their money.

Reality and gameplay are two completely different things. If you (not you in particular :)) have a hard time telling them apart, then you should be checked by a psychiatrist. Blaming what is an evident case of psychiatric problem on a game is pointless, misleading and completely wrong.

Peace. :)

Severian126
07-18-05, 08:04 PM
This whole issue is stupid. Anyone with any ounce of intellect can jump on the internet and download some hardcore pr0n. And it will take A LOT less effort than to unlock some cheesy, highly pixilated game porn. :p Not that I ever download dirty naughty things like them. :o

Screw sex and violent in movies/videogames. Do they think kids are really that blind to the misery in which they live? Maybe they should do something to correct that. You can stamp out copies, but it's the source that needs to be addressed, not the virtual imitations.

DarthBinky
07-20-05, 08:39 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/fun.games/07/20/video.game.sex.ap/index.html

Looks like the developer's going to re-rate the game to Adults Only, and release a new version that's more suitable to an "M" rating (i.e., without the sex minigames). Hopefully that'll satisfy everyone.

Zelda_fan
07-20-05, 08:50 PM
R0ckst4r pwnd

GamerGuyX
07-20-05, 09:03 PM
R0ckst4r pwnd

Not really...

Seph gPu
07-20-05, 09:09 PM
She's doing this so she has something to show off when it's time to campaign again. " Mrs. Clinton attacked horrific violence in games"

I just find it ironic that someone with HER real personal life is being so judgemental of a GAME.