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tenfour
07-15-05, 01:43 PM
Hey, I come from over at Rage3D. I'm looking to bump up my AGP graphics card, and I'm looking at the $130-150 range. I thought that if I asked about this here, any fanboy advice from the two sites would cancel each other out, so I'd have a balanced view. :)

All the different reviews I've read say that the 6600GT is the best value in this price range and outperforms the 9800pro, although I don't know which memory size of 9800pro they were comparing it to.

However, some Rage3d guys who work in a computer shop keep saying that the reviewers are basing their reviews on inaccurate benchmarks and that the 9800pro is actually better.

I just want the best bang for my buck. The nVidia card has a few more features, like PS3.0 and I think maybe some feature where it can antialias the insides of transparent textures.

Thanks for any advice.

DSC
07-15-05, 02:03 PM
The 6600GT whoops the 9800XT in most benchmarks, let alone the 9800Pro. This is a fact, no matter what fanATIcs try to spin it.

http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2004q3/geforce-6600gt/index.x?pg=3

I had originally planned to test the 6600 GT against the Radeon 9800 Pro, but once I saw the initial benchmark numbers, I scrapped that plan and substituted a Radeon 9800 XT instead.

TR conclusion:

The GeForce 6600 GT is freaking awesome. For $199, it offers performance in league with cards that cost upwards of 300 bucks, and it positively crushes all current competition at anything below that price.

This was back then in Sept 2004, when the 6600GT just came out. :D

The Geforce 6 series cannot do Transparency Anti-Aliasing, thats only in the Geforce 7 series.

FastM
07-15-05, 02:07 PM
The 256meg 9800's are Non Pro's arent they? Meaning even slower...

tenfour
07-15-05, 02:18 PM
The 256meg 9800's are Non Pro's arent they? Meaning even slower...
There are pro versions, but they cost about $60 more than the 128MB versions.

I've heard that the extra memory doesn't make much of a difference in today's games.

anzak
07-15-05, 02:28 PM
There are pro versions, but they cost about $60 more than the 128MB versions.

I've heard that the extra memory doesn't make much of a difference in today's games.

Oh yeah it does. But only at 1600x1200 w/ 4xAA and the lower end cards can't do that in newer games. I've had the chance to build a system with a 6600GT and it blazed though Half Life 2, CS: Source, Doom 3, Far Cry, and World of Warcraft. The 6600GT performs better and has more features.

Edge
07-15-05, 02:40 PM
A 6600gt is roughly 30% faster than a 9800pro on average. Compared to a 256mb 9800pro, you'd be able to run higher quality textures on the 9800pro in certain games thanks to the extra video ram (BF2, in particular), but the 6600gt would still be faster. For the price, there's no question: the 6600gt is a far better value than any equivalent 9800 card. Here's a few of the better deals for AGP 6600gt cards at Newegg:

AOpen 6600gt, $136.99 after mail in rebate (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814135160)
eVGA 6600gt, $144.00 after mail in rebate (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130220)
PNY 6600gt, $150, no mail in rebate (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133137)

I personally had the PNY card for a while, and it was a good card despite not being able to overclock much. Roughly 3 times faster than my 9600xt in everything that was GPU limited. Plus the SM3.0 support was nice for games like Far Cry and Splinter Cell 3.