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MOTÖRHEAD
07-19-05, 12:18 PM
So I guess that the BNET script kiddies have made their presence known. That pretty much means am done with Wow. I can't blame Blizzard they tried their hardest. I blame the segement of the player community that buys gold/items online and who want to rush...rush to 60 just so they can complain about not having enough to do. Oh and the god damn BNET hackers from the D2 days who are now going after Wow.

On a side note I have been giving EQ2 a try and I really dig the tradeskills system now that I have learned how to use it correctly especialy the spells/tradeskill actions. Anyways maybe I can get used to the stutter issue but then again I really have no choice now that Wow is BNET'ified.


P.S. If you don't know what I am talking about well here it goes. All servers are down because they found a dupe expliot which has been ongoing for a while it seems. There might be a rollback if the issue is big enough to warrant one.

Zelda_fan
07-19-05, 12:19 PM
The way items work in WoW you can't really "buy" your items. With the exception of a few BoE epics, 95% of best items are bind on pickup which means you have to earn them, not buy them.

Tyr-Sog
07-19-05, 12:20 PM
I'm ignorant, wth is BNET'ified? :confused:

MOTÖRHEAD
07-19-05, 12:22 PM
The way items work in WoW you can't really "buy" your items. With the exception of a few BoE epics, 95% of best items are bind on pickup which means you have to earn them, not buy them.

There are a lot of epics that are BoE...Dwarven Hand Cannon...Krol Blade....etc....

P.S. Folks reported on one server of seeing several Krol blades on sale at the AH all by one person. Also this duping expliot was used to dupe a ton of gold from what I have read on many servers. On some servers people were giving gold away like it was nothing.

MOTÖRHEAD
07-19-05, 12:25 PM
I'm ignorant, wth is BNET'ified? :confused:


The state of being of BNET...aka the network that Diablo 2 is part of if you played it online. In Diablo 2 that game was ruined by all the hacks and duped items in the game. Today the economy of D2 is completely made up of hacked items. If you traded runes, Soj's ( a ring drop ), or charms you essientially traded using duped or hacked items.

Another aspect of D2 and BNET in general besides the rampant hacking and duping was the piss poor behavior and attitude of players in that game. Which I also see in WoW a lot. Of course being that a large players base from D2 moved to WoW I kind of figured it would be that way in the end.

Ninjaman09
07-19-05, 01:16 PM
Boohoo. Look, it's another drama queen here to proclaim the untimely demise of WoW. I'm not too concerned and neither should anyone else be. As jonk already pointed out, anyone who knows a thing about this game knows that BOE epics are total crap compared to the BOE stuff you get at endgame. All this duping thing will accomplish is producing an overabundance of level 1-20 players who have lots of money but nothing to spend it on. Oh shucks.

UDawg
07-19-05, 02:22 PM
Boohoo. Look, it's another drama queen here to proclaim the untimely demise of WoW. I'm not too concerned and neither should anyone else be. As jonk already pointed out, anyone who knows a thing about this game knows that BOE epics are total crap compared to the BOE stuff you get at endgame. All this duping thing will accomplish is producing an overabundance of level 1-20 players who have lots of money but nothing to spend it on. Oh shucks.
What are you talking about? WoW has sucked for a long time. I got tired of hackers, people who just want to cause trouble, clans ganging up on one person, AH price drivers ( I hate them), the inflated prices of items on the AH, ninja looters, guilds in general, 14 year olds with puters, ect. You name it this game is just teh suck now. I don't know if it will die out (doubt it) but it sure sucked for a long time for me.

The way the culture is, if you make one mistake you are black listed even when you don't deserve it. I had a bunch of ****ING 14 year olds gang up on me in a raid. That was the last time I let a buch of pimple poppers talk to me that way.

Ninjaman09
07-19-05, 02:26 PM
What are you talking about? WoW has sucked for a long time. I got tired of hackers, people who just want to cause trouble, clans ganging up on one person, AH price drivers ( I hate them), the inflated prices of items on the AH, ninja looters, guilds in general, 14 year olds with puters, ect. You name it this game is just teh suck now. I don't know if it will die out (doubt it) but it sure sucked for a long time for me.

The way the culture is, if you make one mistake you are black listed even when you don't deserve it. I had a bunch of ****ING 14 year olds gang up on me in a raid. That was the last time I let a buch of pimple poppers talk to me that way.
Eh, must be the server I play on. Everyone is very friendly and mature, and I have yet to run into anyone I would swear off playing with again. BTW, what did you do to get blacklisted? Ninja?

MOTÖRHEAD
07-19-05, 03:02 PM
Boohoo. Look, it's another drama queen here to proclaim the untimely demise of WoW. I'm not too concerned and neither should anyone else be. As jonk already pointed out, anyone who knows a thing about this game knows that BOE epics are total crap compared to the BOE stuff you get at endgame. All this duping thing will accomplish is producing an overabundance of level 1-20 players who have lots of money but nothing to spend it on. Oh shucks.



Enjoy your cesspool of hacking, duping and piss poor immature players. :beer:

http://games.slashdot.org/games/05/07/19/1644250.shtml?tid=209&tid=10

UDawg
07-19-05, 03:08 PM
Eh, must be the server I play on. Everyone is very friendly and mature, and I have yet to run into anyone I would swear off playing with again. BTW, what did you do to get blacklisted? Ninja?
Your prolly right.

I didn't get blacklisted. It was just one guild who went after me. I had many other guilds with whom I've tanked for who backed me up. How ever I just got tired of little kids. That guild wouldn't say what I did. I did ninja loot on accident one time but I smoothed that out and helped that raid out and didn't take any items for my self as pentence. Yet no one from that guild was in that raid. It could have been when the ring from the Ogre King dropped and a warrior and I rolled on and I won the roll but the warrior and his friend said he didn't realize what we were rolling on. I said scroll up and there was the proof. They argued with me but my only reply was FU and I took the ring and then said FU again. BAHAHAHA!!!!1 The other people in the group said I won it, so I was absoluetly sure I wan't ninjalooting. That priest that was backing that warrior was in that clan that went after me, so that had to be where it started. After that run in DM I started recording demos of my raids so I had proof to give blizzard.

Either way the game if fun but the community sucked.

BTW Ninjaman, what server you on? I would like to migrate my warrior to your server so we could raid together if ya don't mind. My warrior is weaponless and armorless. I sold all my stuff and gave the money to a good buddy. I want to start over on a new server and build up my armor and weapons and such.

Ninjaman09
07-19-05, 03:27 PM
Yeah, those guys sound like a bunch of assholes. I could totally see where you're coming from, playing with kids like that. My server is Gilneas, it's a great one. East coast time zone (perk for me anyway), nice community, etc. I have taken a break from my warrior recently to start up a mage, but I'm only level 6 at the moment, and only because I raided UBRS like 10 times last week trying to get the Spaulders of Valor, never to see them drop. Stupid spaulders.

UDawg
07-19-05, 03:30 PM
Ya, rend drops those. BTW I HATE THAT DOG! just a waste of time for warriors but I know hunters and rogues need a quest from him. You can't hold aggro cuz he runs around aoeing every one yet we can go into MC and I can hold aggro easily on the dogs. WTF is up with that.

Tr1cK
07-19-05, 03:49 PM
Well on the maturity issue, I have found that horde is slightly more mature and less often played as well so you have less of a chance of running into iceholes.

Hey Ninjaman, since you're low level and east coast (as I am). How about getting on Stormrage Horde with us? I had originally started on Gilneas with a Dwarf, but some RL friends got me onto Stormrage. I have a 48 Shaman, but have also rolled new toons as well. Same goes for you Udawg and any other person that wants to try to surround themselves with more mature players.

Ninjaman09
07-19-05, 04:23 PM
I actually have a 16 Hunter on Stormrage, but I really hate PVP servers so I ditched him a while ago. I might pick him back up sometime. :D

Tr1cK
07-19-05, 04:55 PM
I actually have a 16 Hunter on Stormrage, but I really hate PVP servers so I ditched him a while ago. I might pick him back up sometime. :D

Stormrage is PvE. Maybe you're thinking of another server? I know there are a few with Storm prefixes.

Ninjaman09
07-19-05, 04:58 PM
Is it? Hahahaha, I probably just forgot then. Honestly, I made the guy in December I think. I may hop on again sometime actually, but for now I'm going to enjoy playing a mage for a little while.

UDawg
07-19-05, 05:16 PM
I want to do the endgame content. I will be parsing my time with BF2. I don't think I have the patients with starting over. I have to get armor and weapons as it is. LOL I will start on your server Ninjaman (if I can migrate there) with only my loin cloth. BAHAHAH! I have to go out and fist fight some of those miner trolls to get money. Kinda funny, one punch and they die.

UDawg
07-19-05, 06:26 PM
Migration is not working now and they don't know if and when they will fix it.... Figures. I will try to get on this evening. I am going to start over and make a Dwarf warrior.

Ninjaman09
07-19-05, 06:29 PM
Let me know when you do, my characters' names are Grenn and ... crap I forgot the mage's name, I just made him, I'll update with it...

UDawg
07-19-05, 06:34 PM
kk

I'll just put you on my friends list and contact you in the game. Not sure what name I'll be. It might be Yonkers.:D if it is available.

I will be on this evening around 5:30 west coast time. Ventrilo or Team Speak are what I use...as most do. I have a TS server ready if ya want to use taht. It makes instances much easier. I will blow through as many lvls as I can to catch up to you. Doing a warrior again will be easy so I should catch up in no time.

Ninjaman09
07-19-05, 07:25 PM
heh ok sounds good!

vampireuk
07-19-05, 08:24 PM
The duping should be able to be caught fairly easily, at least we can hope. It's fairly annoying that people simply can't work towards getting their items and have to cheat to try and catch up with people who have played fairly since day one. On another note I enjoyed the pleasure of a 10 minute stance dance tanking Magmadar this evening.

UDawg
07-19-05, 09:38 PM
The duping should be able to be caught fairly easily, at least we can hope. It's fairly annoying that people simply can't work towards getting their items and have to cheat to try and catch up with people who have played fairly since day one. On another note I enjoyed the pleasure of a 10 minute stance dance tanking Magmadar this evening.
Man, if you are not switching your stance (I know a lot of warriors who don't) then you really are missing a whole tactic that will help your group/raid. Basically you should be shot. :D

vampireuk
07-19-05, 09:46 PM
We usually have trinkets or fear ward :p

UDawg
07-19-05, 11:07 PM
Ninjaman my name is Manius. I'm lvl 10 now. I need a guild. If your guild needs a good low lvl tank, do ya think you could get me a invite to your guild?