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msxyz
07-25-05, 12:55 PM
Following the Xbox Summit, Namco has released a trailer of Frame City Killer:

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8811/Frame-City-Killer-Xbox-Summit-2005-WMVHD-Trailer/

Lots of polygons on the screen but I think the Unreal Engine 3 is wasted here: the version 2 could have handled those graphics as well.

Looks like a "meh" title for me...

Ruined
07-25-05, 02:44 PM
It does look heads and shoulders better than the E3 trailer and definitely does look cool... However it is still outclassed graphically by Ghost Recon 3 and Gears of War. Then again, for what appears to be a title in the vein of Dead to Rights it looks like it could be a lot of fun, since GR3/GoW are both military themed and this is more of a vigilante game.

PeterJensen
07-25-05, 04:28 PM
look very nice to me. I really like the music some how.

Bad_Boy
07-25-05, 07:51 PM
video looks alright, lots of people but all those people were pretty low poly. and if you look a bit you can see the same person in the same scene 2-4 times, and even standing next to each other at some points lol.

normal mapping looked odd at some times(that one guy's face, but i suppose that was on purpose to make him look scary i guess), and the textures looked low on some things. (check the wall at about 1:07-1:15) wheres the AA?

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/747/747906/imgs_1.html
pictures look like ass.

not trying to be a jerk about the game or anything, it just looks nothing what i expect of next gen. liked Ruined said, the graphics in PGR or Gears of War look 20x better. it could be fun though, but honestly im not looking forward to it right now.

whats up with the cars? O_o
anybody notice jessica alba and tom cruise? lol

rasseru
07-25-05, 10:45 PM
why has no-one mentioned the animation yet?

im glad they got the look right for the death anims.. dig the physics being utilised too :retard:


textures look awful as well.. looks like they dont really care about making them fit together at all.


also, whats with the 360's abundance of gangsta type games?? scarface,godfather,FSK etc? :shudder:

GamerGuyX
07-25-05, 11:26 PM
also, whats with the 360's abundance of gangsta type games?? scarface,godfather,FSK etc? :shudder:

Whats wrong with "gangsta type games"?

rasseru
07-26-05, 04:45 AM
the :shudder: is just a personal view (i think they are old, cliched and boring. and the films suck a lot).

i am actually wondering why there is these games coming out. im sure they are just trying to ride the GTA 'bad boy' wave.. i cant prove it though.. need more evidence..


p.s. no offence bad_boy that posted before me.. entirely coincidental :)

|MaguS|
07-26-05, 04:53 AM
Whats wrong with "gangsta type games"?

If they were based of "Gangster" movies or somewhat like them then it wouldn't be bad but most of the ones released are nothing more mindless violence without direction that use the "Gangster" background as an excuse.

This is why I always found Mafia far better then GTA, It felt more like the movies and wasn't trying to be extreme for no apparent reason like GTA.

But I also don't like the GTA series... I get bored of them way to quickly.

GamerGuyX
07-26-05, 04:56 AM
and the films suck a lot

I sure hope your not referring to such classics as Scarface and The Godfather.

http://www.mezcotoyz.com/images/logos/logo_sca.gif http://www.nlgaming.com/games/2774/logo/logo.jpg

This is why I always found Mafia far better then GTA, It felt more like the movies and wasn't trying to be extreme for no apparent reason like GTA.

Wait a minute, I don't quite understand what your trying to say. GTA was never trying to be one of those games that have a movie-like atmosphere like Mafia.

I also don't understand the statement: "trying to be extreme for no apparent reason like GTA". Am I missing something here? GTA is "extreme" because it is a game that allows the player to do virtually anything they want.

rasseru
07-26-05, 07:48 AM
i think those classics are very ugly films. and i also think that they are more suited to a different generation of film lovers.. but hey each to their own.

i also think that these games capture the ugliness of the gangsta genre really well too, intentional or not. :p

|MaguS|
07-26-05, 09:49 AM
Wait a minute, I don't quite understand what your trying to say. GTA was never trying to be one of those games that have a movie-like atmosphere like Mafia.

Vice City tried really hard to be like Scarface and create a bigger sense of mafia ties, San Andreas basically was like any getto thug movie and the third one played like a mixture of all mafia/gangster movies.

I also don't understand the statement: "trying to be extreme for no apparent reason like GTA". Am I missing something here? GTA is "extreme" because it is a game that allows the player to do virtually anything they want.

Yeah, because we need to have virtual hookers in games or the abilty to jump in a tank and kill everyone in sight. This options aren't there because the player wanted them, their there because they are trying to push the extreme limit.

Mafia allows the player to do whatever you want aswell and so does morrowind, yet you don't see them adding a sex scene with your girlfriend (yes it was removed but they thought about it seeing how the code and animations were there). GTA could be a great game if they focused more on the story and actual relative gameplay aspects.

Again while you can do anything in the game, there are somethings that you can do that are not relative or even have reason to be in the game. Just because you can put a feature in the game doesn't mean you should.

Bad_Boy
07-26-05, 01:43 PM
all the gta games had a great story to me if you played out the missions. great voice acting blended everything together and the gameplay was there; so its not like they didnt focus on the gampeplay + story imho.

i dont like to compare gta to games like mafia even if they have a lot of simularities. rockstar to me, kept adding to the series and almost makes it an orginal genre by itself. both great titles though, i enjoyed playing both, and im kinda sad there hasnt been a mafia 2 yet.

if you dont like the good old mob/mafia/gangster movies then yeah, you probably wont like gta. but thats what its always been about. even way back in gta1+2 the point of the game involved gangs. so its not like its somthing new in the gta series.

S.I.N
07-26-05, 01:54 PM
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Again while you can do anything in the game, there are somethings that you can do that are not relative or even have reason to be in the game. Just because you can put a feature in the game doesn't mean you should.http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/image.php?u=27714&dateline=1118247638

He brings a good point and also your is a avatar a good example. Do we really need to see teens or children basically rubbing and playing with huge titties on another teen in a anime? If you can except that in an anime why cant you do the same for a game that provides for a better atmosphere. :confused: If you ask me Hilarly shoudl be running around trying to ban some of these anime's where children are ****ing themselfs with giant snakes. Its borderline child porn some of them.

|MaguS|
07-26-05, 02:15 PM
Your last comment is about Hentai and that I can't comment on, I don't watch it. I can say that they get away because they never mention the characters age and they attend a university (In Japan many still require uniforms). There are some that do go into that area but I really dout those are allowed in the United States since well, thats illegal here.

As for my Avatar, how can you comment that the scene in it is irrelavent? Do you know anything about it? Its less then a 5 second scene... The anime isn't a serious natured one to begin with and the scene actually falls into context of the rest of the anime, its not out of place within the anime at all.

Hookers in GTA have no point or reason to be there... To replenish your health? Well the game has health packs and a hospital so there are other alternatives. In truth they were put there just to get people talking and create hype because "OMG You can have sex in your car?!?!".

BTW The politicians aren't going crazy because of the sex but rather because Rockstar lied about its rating, They had AO content in an M rated game. Why do you think no one got upset at Leisure Suit Larry when it released? It was properly labeld according to its content, while GTA wasn't. The same can go for God of War, It has nudity but it clearly states so on its warning label and the sex scene does not show anything. The Sex Scene in GTA while similar to GoW's was different since you actually saw the act so it became like Leisure Suit Larry which is an AO game.

Bad_Boy
07-26-05, 02:35 PM
Hookers in GTA have no point or reason to be there... To replenish your health? Well the game has health packs and a hospital so there are other alternatives. In truth they were put there just to get people talking and create hype because "OMG You can have sex in your car?!?!".

its the little things that makes everything blend into the atmostphere about gta. you dont have to get in the car with those hookers, but you can if you wanted to, because it's there. you dont have to listen to the radio, according to your logic it serves no purpose, but its there. you dont have to shoot random people walking down the street for no reason, you could just follow the regular story, but you got guns, and they are there. :D

if gta didnt have hookers, random people walking down the street, radio stations, car mods, ability to buy houses, ability to steal cars, etc. and just had rival gang/mob fights. you would probably just say "this game has no depth or atmosphere"

gta is gta.

GamerGuyX
07-26-05, 04:51 PM
i think those classics are very ugly films. and i also think that they are more suited to a different generation of film lovers.. but hey each to their own.

I am 18 and Scarface and The Godfather are in my top 5 favorite movies list.

Yeah, because we need to have virtual hookers in games or the abilty to jump in a tank and kill everyone in sight. This options aren't there because the player wanted them, their there because they are trying to push the extreme limit.

I disagree. If the player didn't want them in there then you wouldn't see them in every GTA game. Not to menton the fact that everytime I am playing with a friend they always tell me to go get a tank or "pick up a hooker in your car" trick.