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Zofomatic
07-27-05, 07:53 PM
Just recently, a capacitor on my fx 5900xt literally fell off , and now I'm forced to buy a new card.

Upon some rather hellish research, I discovered a few things:
New cards generally use PCIe.
My mobo does not have PCIe.
They do not make socket 478 and PCIe motherboards.
I do not have a thousand dollars for a new card, mobo, and processor.

>.<

Okay, that being said; Would it be wiser to spend less money and get a lower end (6600 GT perhaps?) rather than limit the more expensive 6800 to AGP? this seems to be the consensus. This way I can save money til I can affod to actally upgrade my PC.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

anzak
07-27-05, 08:08 PM
A new mobo, CPU, and graphics card would not cost anywhere near $1000. If you don't want to replace the mobo and processor, could you tell us what CPU you have? I wouldn't want to recommend a 6800GT to someone with a 2Ghz P4. Thanks.

Zofomatic
07-27-05, 08:12 PM
I know, I was over-exxagerating. But I am in a money bind. And, I get so much misinformation thati J ust decided to ask on here, so I hope I didn't say anythign too stupid. =P

I have a Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT, 2 sticks of 256, 2 sticks of 512 twinx 3200 corsair ram.
intel d865gbf mobo.

What would be good choices to go with this?

ricercar
07-27-05, 08:21 PM
$200 will buy you a 6800 AGP. The lowest 6800 vanilla still leaps taller buildings and is faster than a 6600 GT.

angshuman
07-27-05, 08:30 PM
The vanilla 6800 could be a good option. In fact, the AGP version of this particular card is a boon in disguise -- it has 4 unlockable pipelines that the PCIe version does not. My understanding is that Nvidia's process is now pretty mature, and yields are darn good, so the likelihood of finding one with fully functional 16 frag shaders is pretty high.

I think eVGA has one for $189 at newegg, it's about 30 bucks more expensive than the 6600GT AGP, but IMNSHO it is the best bang for the buck you can get, given your current configuration. I don't think you'll be too CPU-limited with this setup; the card should complement your system well until you're ready for a full-on upgrade.

Alternatively, you could look for a used AGP 6800GT. Zoomy942 just sold one that was equipped with a Zalman and clocked at Ultra+ speeds for $205 :eek:
But your CPU would probably hold you back here.

Zofomatic
07-27-05, 08:59 PM
I think I may be going for a 6800GT, for the 256MB, among other things.

Probably another stupid question - but does the brand matter?

I notice eVGA seems to charge more - for good reason? Or is there any other suggestions?

j0j081
07-28-05, 05:02 AM
Okay, that being said; Would it be wiser to spend less money and get a lower end (6600 GT perhaps?) rather than limit the more expensive 6800 to AGP? this seems to be the consensus. This way I can save money til I can affod to actally upgrade my PC.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.
BTW. The 6800 isn't limited at all by AGP. In fact you can run it in 4X mode with little to no performance hit.

DBThump
07-28-05, 07:25 AM
A new mobo, CPU, and graphics card would not cost anywhere near $1000.

I've not studied anything on the 64 technology, but you don't think it would cost at least $700 to upgrade, including the card?

Ballpark has gotta be CPU $200, mobo $175, 6800 $200-$350. What about new memory, or could you recycle the old? $500 buck including a new card would be fantastic, but I don't know what to get myself. I'd have to spend a few weeks reading up.

Gentle
07-28-05, 12:28 PM
Yeah, uh, before you start going money crazy...

What brand is your video card?

Have you checked with the manufacturer to see how long their warranty is?

Some motherboard manufacturers and possibly video card manufacturers had a large batch of defective capacitors. Mind you, their issues were very different than "falling off". They usually showed signs of leakage.

But if it's deemed a warranty issue, they would repair or replace the video card, and then you could sell that one and have money to spend on a newer one.

Just take a little bit of time to verify the basic facts. Contact the manufacturer and tell them what happened.

Some manufacturers will go out of their way to make you happy. It's not as common as it used to be, but some still do.

Gentle

Gator
07-28-05, 01:00 PM
Check yoru warranty on the FX5900 first. Maybe you could get a replacement from the manufacturer.

If you must replace the card, my vote for the Vanilla 6800 AGP. It's a hell of a good deal now, and it can outperform the 6600GT in high resolutions because of the 256bit memory bus. The brands I recommend include EVGA, BFG, Leadtek, so pick whichever has the best deal and you'll be fine.

EDIT: I don't normally recommend XFX... but this is a really good deal! 6800NU for only $149 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150068

anzak
07-28-05, 01:11 PM
I've not studied anything on the 64 technology, but you don't think it would cost at least $700 to upgrade, including the card?

Ballpark has gotta be CPU $200, mobo $175, 6800 $200-$350. What about new memory, or could you recycle the old? $500 buck including a new card would be fantastic, but I don't know what to get myself. I'd have to spend a few weeks reading up.

I would never pay $175 for a mobo. I used PC2700 memory for a long time with my current setup so that isn't an issue. All of the prices below are from newegg.

Chaintech VNF4 Ultra - $80
Athlon 64 3000+ Venice - $146
Gigabyte 6800 256mb - $265

Total $491

DBThump
07-28-05, 02:20 PM
I would never pay $175 for a mobo. I used PC2700 memory for a long time with my current setup so that isn't an issue. All of the prices below are from newegg.

Chaintech VNF4 Ultra - $80
Athlon 64 3000+ Venice - $146
Gigabyte 6800 256mb - $265

Total $491

Well, after you said that I "went shopping" and found some low cost stuff. Not to bad cost wise. I like getting a new hard drive as well, just to make things easy.