View Full Version : ATI X800GT Benchmarks (X800GT v 6600GT)
macatak
07-31-05, 04:50 AM
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/x800gt-4.htm
any idea of pricing of that thing (128mb), and specs..like 8piped or 12piped, and core and mem clocks?
macatak
07-31-05, 09:08 AM
Some prices/spec's here (http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=2514&s=1)
Graphicmaniac
07-31-05, 09:18 AM
X800 now cost 200€ and is much more powerfull than 6600GT, i have no idea where this X800GT could be placed ..
Looks like a decent card for the price point, but then the nvidia cards are already sli capable, ati does not have crossfire out in capacity at the moment.
Wow, perfect timing! After my GT sells I'm buying a PCIe mobo and a good midrange card to hold me over until I can get a 512mb G70 or R520 for a decent price. :D
AthlonXP1800
07-31-05, 02:56 PM
It no surprised ATI was very late bring X800GT to compete with 6600GT so why bother release it now when 7600GT will replace 6600GT in about 3 months time.
It no surprised ATI was very late bring X800GT to compete with 6600GT so why bother release it now when 7600GT will replace 6600GT in about 3 months time.
Got a souce to back that up? Or are you being your normal nvidiot self?
AthlonXP1800
07-31-05, 03:31 PM
Got a souce to back that up? Or are you being your normal nvidiot self?
Before June, Nvidia said they will launch Geforce 7 series from top to bottom line this year. Geforce 7600 is codenamed G72.
Here (http://vr-zone.com/?i=2325&s=1), over here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=643727&postcount=8) and right here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=652348&postcount=18).
It no surprised ATI was very late bring X800GT to compete with 6600GT so why bother release it now when 7600GT will replace 6600GT in about 3 months time.
Its a catch-up on the market share. x800gt is like the 5900xt nv released against the 9600xt.
Before June, Nvidia said they will launch Geforce 7 series from top to bottom line this year. Geforce 7600 is codenamed G72.
Here (http://vr-zone.com/?i=2325&s=1), over here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=643727&postcount=8) and right here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=652348&postcount=18).
Thats just user speculation. Remember, the NV42 was nvidia's mobile part. Not their midrange part. I very much doubt we will see a 7 series midrange part, instead the 6 series will fall in price replacing it in the mid range segment (like the Radeon 9800 pro did).
but wasnt it said (somewhere), ati will launch/announce r520 (xt and pro) and r5xx (a mid-range card) in late august or september. then why x800gt now?
but wasnt it said (somewhere), ati will launch/announce r520 (xt and pro) and r5xx (a mid-range card) in late august or september. then why x800gt now?
I'm guessing since the top end of ATI's cards were pushed back that means that the midrange will be pushed back even further. In the mean time, all ATI has to do is lock 4 pipes on their X800 and slap on some higher ns memory to steal the mid range sales from nvidia.
I was condsidering buying the 256mb X700 pro or 128mb 6600GT, but it looks like this card will be available when im ready to order.
ChrisRay
07-31-05, 07:03 PM
Come on guys, Lets keep the personal remarks to our selves. We mods really shouldnt have to warn about this.
6800NU=$199
6800GT= $299
7800GT=$399
7800GTX=$499
It is very unlikely that we will see a mid range 7 series. The 7 series really don't offer many features over the 6 series.
ChrisRay
08-01-05, 02:08 AM
6800NU=$199
6800GT= $299
7800GT=$399
7800GTX=$499
It is very unlikely that we will see a mid range 7 series. The 7 series really don't offer many features over the 6 series.
It wouldnt make financial sense to place 0.13 micron cards with high transistor counts in the 199 market segment. Other than for price wars. The most likely thing to happen is the midrange will be based upon a new process which will allow for cheaper to produce cards. It's not a question of what they offer to the consumer. From a consumer standpoint this may make sense. From a business standpoint it doesnt.
It wouldnt make financial sense to place 0.13 micron cards with high transistor counts in the 199 market segment. Other than for price wars. The most likely thing to happen is the midrange will be based upon a new process which will allow for cheaper to produce cards. It's not a question of what they offer to the consumer. From a consumer standpoint this may make sense. From a business standpoint it doesnt.
The PCI Express version of the 6800 is the NV42 core which is .11 micron. Right now its $230 with a $30 mail in rebate at newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127179
The AGP version is around $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130202
EDIT:
I think the X800GT was a last minute move by ATI to use the R430 cores that only had 8 working pipes.
ChrisRay
08-01-05, 03:04 AM
The PCI Express version of the 6800 is the NV42 core which is .11 micron. Right now its $230 with a $30 mail in rebate at newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127179
The AGP version is around $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130202
EDIT:
I think the X800GT was a last minute move by ATI to use the R430 cores that only had 8 working pipes.
Just because the product is competively priced doesnt mean its competively produced. The price of making 0.13 cores ((For instance AGP for 199 dollars MSRP is expensive for the IHV) It is more likely that the IHV will embrace a lower process card to A) Reduce costs, maximize profits, and B) remain competitive. Nvidia will not want to leave expensive to produce cards in price segments that they can produce cheaper. The 6800NU (Paticularly in AGP form) isnt exactly the cheapest to produce component based upon its original specifications.
It wouldnt make financial sense to place 0.13 micron cards with high transistor counts in the 199 market segment. Other than for price wars. The most likely thing to happen is the midrange will be based upon a new process which will allow for cheaper to produce cards. It's not a question of what they offer to the consumer. From a consumer standpoint this may make sense. From a business standpoint it doesnt.
:confused:
Nvidia already confirmed all those prices.
well i think chris was pointing out the 68Gt and Ultras that are still produced on nv40 architecture.
getting them on the price tag of 250 - 299 will be goin in slight loss.
nv41 is 0.11 6800nu, doesnt hav the 68gt and ultra.
PS: i read, on these forums, nv47/48 replacing nv40 (quitely)
simonuk
08-06-05, 04:07 PM
The X800 GT 128mb will give ATI fans something to purchase which compares to the 6600 GT and should cost roughly the same. The X600 and X700 ranges were not so great and certainly no competition for the 6600 GT. Not sure what to make of the X800 GT 256mb, if it's not priced right then it's competiton might be the x800 or 6800.
The X800 GT 128mb will give ATI fans something to purchase which compares to the 6600 GT and should cost roughly the same.
If VR-Zone is correct then the 128mb version will be cheaper than the 128mb 6600GT where the 256mb version will be about the same.
The X600 and X700 ranges were not so great and certainly no competition for the 6600 GT.
Well the X700 Pro is. Its a little slower than the 6600GT because it runs at 420/850, but makes up for it by having 6 vertex units. The X700 Pro is also around $50 cheaper.
I wonder why the board partners decided to go with 400mhz core clock? It runs at the same speed as the vanilla X700. :eek2:
simonuk
08-07-05, 05:11 AM
If VR-Zone is correct then the 128mb version will be cheaper than the 128mb 6600GT where the 256mb version will be about the same.
Well the X700 Pro is. Its a little slower than the 6600GT because it runs at 420/850, but makes up for it by having 6 vertex units. The X700 Pro is also around $50 cheaper.
I wonder why the board partners decided to go with 400mhz core clock? It runs at the same speed as the vanilla X700. :eek2:
I just checked dealtime and the geforce 6600 gt is only $30 or so more expensive than the x700 Pro which is money well spent if you ask me. In the UK you can get a 6600 GT for the same price as the slower X700 Pro which is why the 6600 GT sells so well over here.
XFX Geforce 6600 GT 128mb = $145 (http://www.dealtime.com/dt-app/SE/KW-geforce_6600_gt_Graphics_Cards/FD-1722/linkin_id-3003243/NS-1/GS.html)
Gigabyte X700 Pro 128mb = $112 (http://www.dealtime.com/dt-app/SE/KW-radeon_x700_pro_Graphics_Cards/FD-1722/linkin_id-3003243/NS-1/GS.html)
I just checked dealtime and the geforce 6600 gt is only $30 or so more expensive than the x700 Pro which is money well spent if you ask me. In the UK you can get a 6600 GT for the same price as the slower X700 Pro which is why the 6600 GT sells so well over here.
XFX Geforce 6600 GT 128mb = $145 (http://www.dealtime.com/dt-app/SE/KW-geforce_6600_gt_Graphics_Cards/FD-1722/linkin_id-3003243/NS-1/GS.html)
Gigabyte X700 Pro 128mb = $112 (http://www.dealtime.com/dt-app/SE/KW-radeon_x700_pro_Graphics_Cards/FD-1722/linkin_id-3003243/NS-1/GS.html)
Thats AGP. I'm talking about the PCI-Express versions. Here are the lowest prices at newegg.
128mb Gigabyte X700 Pro - $109 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814125165)
128mb eVGA 6600GT - $169 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130214)
Both cards have $4.00 shipping. Right now, that $110 X700 Pro is the best deal in the midrange segment. I'm gonna wait a little longer for the X800GT though, the 256bit memory bus would be really helpful when enabling AA and AF.
64mb radeon 9000. :eek.
i had once read ur sig. you had xt-pe?
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