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Hartley
08-01-05, 11:08 PM
The x800 vanilla can already be found for 170$-180$.
retsam
08-01-05, 11:22 PM
beyond3d.com
So where to do you see 90nm now then?

Jen-Hsun Huang
We're taping out a whole lot of 90nm chips. nvidia now does mid and low range on new processes first. with that said, i think jen-hsun statement tells it all .... there is gonna be a full comprehensive up and down range built around g70 90nm series ...
rewt
08-02-05, 08:00 AM
Because Nvidia wants the people who already have 6600GT to upgrade to 7600GT. ;)

A majority of people who just bought a 6600GT aren't going to go buy a 7600GT if it were available now. So Nvidia would just end up spending multi millions of dollars to produce a new card when the profits aren't there to support it.
Red_Shift
08-02-05, 09:27 AM
A majority of people who just bought a 6600GT aren't going to go buy a 7600GT if it were available now.
You're right but ppl who hadn't upgraded yet would rather upgrade to a 7600GT than a 6600GT. Nvidia would just stop producing 6600GT's GPUs.
So Nvidia would just end up spending multi millions of dollars to produce a new card when the profits aren't there to support it.

7600GT will be based on G70 so they won't spend much on R&D, it's just the initial costs for fine tuning the production of the core, then because those cores on 90nm will be cheaper to produce, Nvidia will make more money. Mainstream cores on 90nm are far easier to produce than high-end 90nm parts.
rewt
08-02-05, 11:36 AM
Yeah I'd rather upgrade to a 7600Gt than a 6600Gt, but I don't see any 7600Gts on the shelves.

BTW what happened to ATi did they die or something? Or did they strike it rich with their x800 series?
retsam
08-02-05, 01:26 PM
7600GT will be based on G70 so they won't spend much on R&D, all there mid and low end cards are going to be on 90nm .... tape out of a single chips cost any were from 5-7 million. so we have 5 other chips still needed to be taped out. and this is a new process so r&d costs are high on a yet to be worked out process.
Treason
08-02-05, 03:34 PM
BTW what happened to ATi did they die or something? Or did they strike it rich with their x800 series?

Yes, ATi has given up and proclaimed their R520 a failure. Competition is now between nVidia and Intel.

j/k (darn!). No, the industry is waiting for what ATi will present with their much delayed R520 product line. I assume that that will include their mid-range offering to coincide with the release of a 7600 GT.
ChrisRay
08-03-05, 03:23 PM
For now it appears at least in the PCIE segment the Nv42 is going to take over the 6800NU in 199 segment. It is possible that the AGP version may be updated. We've already seen thatr NV48 is silently taking over the 6800GT. Its possible that Nvidia will adjust the process for these chips silently to lower price points.