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oldsk00l
09-08-05, 02:46 PM
This is to all the left wing pathetically retarded imbeciles that want to keep saying this is Bush's fault.

SHUT YOUR HOLE

That's the most IDIOTIC way to pass off your pathetic "cause" or whatever you want to call it.

Bush offered to federalize the emergency effort, and it was the LAW that Blanco ask for help LEGALLY, not on the media.

Bush even had a document prepared for her, to just use, and then we would have had a fully deployed force possibly a day sooner.

So just mull that over, in your typical condescending, ignorant, subhuman liberal piece of **** scumbag.

It's scumbags like you that keeps the democratic party in its deflation.

Have a nice day.

[edited by request of the mods, no probs with that, was prolly a bit rash...but this is still the message I want going out....]

UDawg
09-08-05, 02:52 PM
Yup, the govenor of La waited after the president offered help. She and the mayor of NO are to blame.

Further more the federal government CANNOT go into a state with out the permission of the local government. It is in the constitution.

evilchris
09-08-05, 02:54 PM
It's amazing that snot nosed bulldyke governor couldn't just GET OVER THE FACT that Bush is a republican and let the feds go to work.

Riptide
09-08-05, 04:05 PM
Do you guys know why they would keep people from leaving NO? I don't understand why the police would do such a thing. Please take a lookie here:

http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml
We questioned why we couldn't cross the bridge anyway, especially as there was little traffic on the 6-lane highway. They responded that the West Bank was not going to become New Orleans and there would be no Superdomes in their City. These were code words for if you are poor and black, you are not crossing the Mississippi River and you were not getting out of New Orleans.

?? :confused:

Rakeesh
09-08-05, 04:10 PM
Bush ordered the cops to do that.

Riptide
09-08-05, 04:12 PM
:D

Serious answer please. Why in the hell would the police refuse people exit from NO like that? Either that guy is a bold faced liar or those cops are effin idiots. Or there is some other explanation...

GlowStick
09-08-05, 04:31 PM
Well, assumeing thats true...

because the other cities dont want poor people in their city.

brutal but honest answer.

Riptide
09-08-05, 04:36 PM
Wow, how nice of those other cities. Great to see how they are so willing to help out. :(

Assuming ofcourse that is the real reason. I hope it isn't..

GlowStick
09-08-05, 04:53 PM
Wow, how nice of those other cities. Great to see how they are so willing to help out. :(

Assuming ofcourse that is the real reason. I hope it isn't..Not really, this type of thing happens every day and most people rally behind it begging for more. This can be directly compared to the immigration of the mexican people to the US. People demand that the government not allow them in etc and form militias to try to block them. The reason behind it is, they belive that if they allow poor people in, they will them self become poor. Exact same thing is going on with the evacuees.

Basicly ask you self this. If the gov told you that they were going to allow 20,000 immigrants from under developed countrys move to your town. Would you guys be arms open? or crying and doing every underhanded tatic to stop it?

I also dont want someone to try to claim that this is turning into a raceist thing. When i say poor, thats what i mean. anyone who after the storm dosent have any money in the bank, and cant get any credit. basicly if they were living decnetly paycheck to pay check, maybe saveing a cuple bucks here and there, they are poor now regardless of race.

Riptide
09-08-05, 04:58 PM
Right, so they're putting themselves first. The immigrant thing would wash with me if we were talking about immigrants - but we're not. It's not the same thing. These are citizens of our country. And if they aren't being let out of NO because they are poor then those responsible for it should be fired. You can freely, legally, go from whatever state you want to in this country wether you are poor or not.

What doesn't make sense to me about this though is that it was probably local police who were blocking them from leaving NO. That doesn't really jive with what you are saying above because they would in fact want them to leave not stay.

GlowStick
09-08-05, 05:25 PM
Right, so they're putting themselves first. The immigrant thing would wash with me if we were talking about immigrants - but we're not. It's not the same thing. These are citizens of our country. And if they aren't being let out of NO because they are poor then those responsible for it should be fired. You can freely, legally, go from whatever state you want to in this country wether you are poor or not.

What doesn't make sense to me about this though is that it was probably local police who were blocking them from leaving NO. That doesn't really jive with what you are saying above because they would in fact want them to leave not stay.How is it not the same? But your answer explanes the reasoning why its going on. "Its not the same". If those cops were to only allow people with 100k in thier bank account into the city, but not the rest of them the answer to the question 'why' would of course be "Its not the same". The people with the money, will go to the hotels, buy expensive dinners and new clothes tolitres etc. However the people with no money in the banks (or not nearly enough) no credit etc would go on the streets looking for hand outs. and of couse when they dont get any, start looting it. The ones that coudlnt affoard the hotels, where woudl they go? What would they eat? The answer to that is simply to say its not the same and have someone else do the dirty work of keeping them out.

On the immigraton to your town, lets say that the government also granted them citizenship. Dose that change your answer?

Also, for teh more geek related readers

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/DS9/episode/68196.html
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/DS9/episode/68198.html

One of the best DS9 episodes, and relates exactly to whats going on down there (assumeing the reports are correct).

UDawg
09-08-05, 05:32 PM
The sad thing is after the govenor thought for 24 hours about the president's offer for to put national gudard in LA, she turned him down. Later she and the mayor have the liberal balls to liberally blast the president...as only a liberal puke can.

What a pathetic liberal pile of liberal crap they are...liberal.


liberal

Riptide
09-08-05, 05:35 PM
It is not the same because one group has citizenship and the freedoms that come with it (including moving from state to state, leaving NO for instance).

If the government granted this imaginary group of people citizenship then yes, they can come to my town. They have the right whether I like it or not.

netviper13
09-08-05, 06:41 PM
Do you guys know why they would keep people from leaving NO? I don't understand why the police would do such a thing. Please take a lookie here:

http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml


?? :confused:

Because, like it or not, America has its own caste system based on the monetary value of one's life. Those worth more money matter more. Not making a value judgement, just relaying the facts.

ruziel
09-08-05, 06:42 PM
lol

retsam
09-08-05, 06:55 PM
Because, like it or not, America has its own caste system based on the monetary value of one's life. Those worth more money matter more. Not making a value judgement, just relaying the facts. really, that must be a liberal thing.... guess each person sees it diffrently ...

oldsk00l
09-08-05, 07:04 PM
Because, like it or not, America has its own caste system based on the monetary value of one's life. Those worth more money matter more. Not making a value judgement, just relaying the facts.

man that's a ****en retarded statement if I ever saw one

Oh wait, no it's true, SOME rich people that tend to be liberals look down on others as if everyone else is just utterly reprehensible.

whatever, that's BS, and I've generally never run into that whenever I go to places where people are extremely wealthy, the only hoighty toity assholes were typically guys that voted for Kerry, Gore, or Clinton.

Hypocrisy is their great failure.

UDawg
09-08-05, 07:38 PM
man that's a ****en retarded statement if I ever saw one

Oh wait, no it's true, SOME rich people that tend to be liberals look down on others as if everyone else is just utterly reprehensible.

whatever, that's BS, and I've generally never run into that whenever I go to places where people are extremely wealthy, the only hoighty toity assholes were typically guys that voted for Kerry, Gore, or Clinton.

Hypocrisy is their great failure.
Here is a FACT of liberalism that NO ONE can deny. Liberals think people in general are stupid and need elitist snobs with higher education to lead them. There isn't one damn liberal here that can refute that. I have heard this from Noam Chumpski and many other so called intelligent liberal punks. My oldest brother is a professor at USDS in the law department. He says and I quote "people are dumb and left up to them selves will only get worse. They need enlightened people to lead them."

Shamrock
09-08-05, 09:23 PM
Here is a FACT of liberalism that NO ONE can deny. Liberals think people in general are stupid and need elitist snobs with higher education to lead them. There isn't one damn liberal here that can refute that. I have heard this from Noam Chumpski and many other so called intelligent liberal punks. My oldest brother is a professor at USDS in the law department. He says and I quote "people are dumb and left up to them selves will only get worse. They need enlightened people to lead them."

Yet G. Bush attended Yale...that makes him an "elitist snob", btw, Bush was BORN with a silver spoon in his mouth, cuz daddy was rich.

I can deny that. But what we DO need is a leader with somewhat above average intelligence. Because someone NEEDS to have some intelligence/wisdom, if they are to understand the ways of leading a country such as ours. You wanna let soomeone with an IQ of less than 75 lead this nation? I dont. I have a "semi-retarded" cousin, do I want her to lead this country? no way. What about a high school dropout? What about someone who dropped out of elementary school, and can barely read comic books?

And to the original poster:

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


You dont have the right TO TELL ME I CANT SPEAK!

Mr. Hunt
09-08-05, 09:41 PM
do I want her to lead this country? no way. What about a high school dropout? What about someone who dropped out of elementary school, and can barely read comic books?

I do want a Yale graduate.

Got it... thanks.

netviper13
09-08-05, 09:59 PM
Here is a FACT of liberalism that NO ONE can deny. Liberals think people in general are stupid and need elitist snobs with higher education to lead them. There isn't one damn liberal here that can refute that. I have heard this from Noam Chumpski and many other so called intelligent liberal punks. My oldest brother is a professor at USDS in the law department. He says and I quote "people are dumb and left up to them selves will only get worse. They need enlightened people to lead them."

That all traces back to Plato, and one would be hard pressed to call him a liberal. Nice try though, really.

Shamrock
09-08-05, 11:02 PM
I do want a Yale graduate.

Got it... thanks.

You're right, Bill Clinton. He attended Georgetown Univ, then Yale, then went to Oxford (England), then taught law at Univ Arkansas.

http://immigration.about.com/library/biography/blbillclinton.htm

Shamrock
09-08-05, 11:05 PM
The sad thing is after the govenor thought for 24 hours about the president's offer for to put national gudard in LA, she turned him down. Later she and the mayor have the liberal balls to liberally blast the president...as only a liberal puke can.

What a pathetic liberal pile of liberal crap they are...liberal.


liberal

you signed your own post "LIBERAL"? :rofl

evilchris
09-08-05, 11:29 PM
You're right, Bill Clinton. He attended Georgetown Univ, then Yale, then went to Oxford (England), then taught law at Univ Arkansas.

http://immigration.about.com/library/biography/blbillclinton.htm

....and was the worst President ever. Great pres, selling US ICBM targetting technology to China, dismantling the US military to the worst state it's been in over 20 years, pardoning murderers of FBI agents, allowing Bin Laden to multiply in strength while plotting 9/11 INSIDE OUR BORDERS. GREAT PRESIDENT!!

netviper13
09-08-05, 11:45 PM
....and was the worst President ever. Great pres, selling US ICBM targetting technology to China, dismantling the US military to the worst state it's been in over 20 years, pardoning murderers of FBI agents, allowing Bin Laden to multiply in strength while plotting 9/11 INSIDE OUR BORDERS. GREAT PRESIDENT!!

Wow, you're placing him above Jimmy Carter? You must really hate that man :D