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The Who
09-09-05, 10:14 PM
The ***** of the video card consumer.

I just noticed something that happened about a month ago. The release of the 7800 GT. Yup, just the 7800 GT. Well that and the recently announced cancellation of the 7800 Ultra. I was reading and thinking and thinking the 7800 GTX has 24 pixel pipelines and 8 vertex processors. The 7800 GT has 20 pipelines and 7 vertex processors. $600 vs. $500, now compare the last couple of generations, the top two high-end cards have always been virtually the exact same core. With some modification they could almost always reach the performance of the high priced card. So with this in mind we have the GT, GTX and Ultra. One can only speculate what the Ultra was but I’m sure it could have been a GTX clocked @ 550+/500/500/1300MHz (pipelines, ROP, vertex, GDDR) maybe even 512mb only maybe $750+. The GTX is 430/470/470/1200MHz and the GT, 400/440/440/1000MHz. With this kind of market separation and manufacturing processes becoming more refined with better tools, do you think you’ll be able use a tuner to unlock a GT to an GTX or Ultra, or even a GTX to a Ultra. Why has the 6800 GT been the top selling mid range card. Why, because it could easily reach the same performance of the 6800 ultra. Fact the GTX reaches, 730/1400Mhz. The GT 500/1110Mhz. Maybe an ultra could hit 750+. I digress, the ultra was likely to cost $750+ right. So begins the ******. I consider my self a high end “gamer” in the true sense of a gamer. P43.6/2Gb/6800 GT… since 1985 I make good money. However I still save were I can as many of us do. $700+ vs. $600 vs. $500. Mmm, SLI Ultra $1500+. I don’t make that much money. Wow……, isn’t ATI coming out with some kind of crossfire thing. This entire industry is doomed. If you’re a gamer like me that really enjoys the benefits a high-end rig can afford you. I’m sorry a lot of you may not be able to afford to be gamers any longer. I might make due as a forced mid-range gamer but I’ve purchased games and waited weeks, even months to finish them because I couldn’t run them at near top setting and knew I was getting a new card soon. The least I ask is 1600x1200 2x+aa & 8x+af :). Isn’t the PS3 coming out soon? Anyway I’m sick of writing.

superklye
09-09-05, 10:18 PM
There. Was. No. Ultra.

Clay
09-09-05, 10:47 PM
The prices for these products are always in step with what the market will bear. There have been well over 2 million 7800 GPUs sold since their availability in June of this year. I'd say that's a pretty good argument for there being a substantial reason to dish out ~$500 for a 7800. If you don't see it that way then that's fine but the vast majority in this enthusiast market would disagree.

OWA
09-09-05, 10:59 PM
Hmm, a full moon (crazy) doesn't occur until 9/17...but, it is a friday night so maybe :alc:

j/k

The Who
09-09-05, 11:07 PM
Das great, did you know that 7800 owners make up less then 2% of the market? Did you know Geforce Fx 5200 owners make up over 8% of the market? 6800 GT only 3%, ATI 9600 over 11%.

Clay
09-09-05, 11:14 PM
Das great, did you know that 7800 owners make up less then 2% of the market? Did you know Geforce Fx 5200 owners make up over 8% of the market? 6800 GT only 3%, ATI 9600 over 11%.No, that's completely new news to me. :angel: What is your point???

Treason
09-09-05, 11:23 PM
Easy. Blame ATi. If they ceased to exist and an Intel-nVidia market emerged, then you wouldn't have these staggered products from nVidia. You'd have defined price ranges for defined markets.

kingmike
09-09-05, 11:26 PM
I paid $335 for my 7800gt. would not even consider paying $500 lol :confused:

mx125race
09-09-05, 11:28 PM
Das great, did you know that 7800 owners make up less then 2% of the market? Did you know Geforce Fx 5200 owners make up over 8% of the market? 6800 GT only 3%, ATI 9600 over 11%.


5200...thats what i had 2 mnoths ago :o

Clay
09-09-05, 11:34 PM
This thread is pointless. We might as well complain about how a 2006 Mustang Cobra costs a lot more than a Ford Focus. Many more people own a Ford Focus than do a Mustang Cobra blah blah blah. It's as silly as is the tired car-computer analogy. :D