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Burnt_Ram
09-11-05, 08:56 AM
hi guys,

i'm running my 7800 GT with 1280x1024 4xAA 16x AF, high quality, with LOD clamped, and the new transparent AA set to supersampling. BF2 runs really well with this setting. i thought TAA would effect performance, but it didnt. sure makes it look better ! what do you guys run ? and whats the diff between MS and SS ? haven't tried the multisamping out yet ...

trinibwoy
09-11-05, 09:02 AM
Don't bother with MS. It has almost zero performance hit and zero IQ improvement. TS for me does wonders for IQ with a few percentage point hit - you won't even notice unless you're benchmarking.

gram_vaz
09-11-05, 09:03 AM
i run 8xs. mostly as a precaution to shimmering since ssaa reduces it. and i haven't noticed any shimmering. XD

as for differences in aa modes, read this thread: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=30641&highlight=Anti+Aliasing

BrianG
09-11-05, 09:06 AM
hi guys,

i'm running my 7800 GT with 1280x1024 4xAA 16x AF, high quality, with LOD clamped, and the new transparent AA set to supersampling. BF2 runs really well with this setting. i thought TAA would effect performance, but it didnt. sure makes it look better ! what do you guys run ? and whats the diff between MS and SS ? haven't tried the multisamping out yet ...
Multisampling gives minor image improvement. Supersampling is where it is at.

Check out the image quality compaison on page seven of Mike's MSI GTX SLI review.
http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/msi_geforce_nx7800gtx_sli/page_7.shtml

Compare 8xS without TS and GC to 4X with TS and GC. Pretty cool.

SH64
09-11-05, 09:16 AM
TAA is great .. it enhances IQ without affecting the performance greatly & sometimes no performance hit at all!
i use it in games that are too fast with 4xAA but somewhat slow @8xAA.
i dont use the Multsampling because it dosent show much difference .. the clear difference can bs seen with supersampling. thats what i use most of the time.

heres 2 screenshots comparing no TAA to TAA (Supersampling) in the game Xpand Rally. (notice the framerate in the shots ;))

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/200/xpandrally20050831065016955ws.jpg

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/4188/xpandrally20050831065404428cg.jpg

Burnt_Ram
09-11-05, 09:40 AM
great, looks like i picked the right mode then, and i have to agree. no performance hit, and much nicer IQ ! :D

BrianG
09-11-05, 11:29 AM
That is a great comparison, SH64.

SH64
09-11-05, 12:25 PM
That is a great comparison, SH64.

Thanks :)
the TAA is a great addition to the GF7 series when the player knows when & where to use it & IMO it results in a better overall IQ when we compare it to a Radeon card (with AA enabled).
people should not disregard this handy feature!

GlowStick
09-11-05, 12:27 PM
I use TA SS for all my games :) hope that helps!

PS.

I <3 it hehe

SH64
09-11-05, 12:29 PM
I use TA SS for all my games :) hope that helps!

PS.

I <3 it hehe

Hey you have a GTX!! i just noticed that :o

OWA
09-11-05, 12:49 PM
That is a great comparison, SH64.
Yeah, no kidding. Think I'll save those screenshots for future reference.

Blacklash
09-12-05, 12:47 PM
Yep I am addicted to TA SS too. Great stuff.

J-Mag
09-12-05, 01:14 PM
Yeah Transparency AA w/ SS rules!

Anyone seen any performance comparisons between TAA SS BF2 frame rate vs no TAA?

I feel significant slow downs with 4xAA TSS, on that chinese map with the the damn you can jump off of with a boat.

Burnt_Ram
09-12-05, 02:51 PM
Yeah Transparency AA w/ SS rules!

Anyone seen any performance comparisons between TAA SS BF2 frame rate vs no TAA?

I feel significant slow downs with 4xAA TSS, on that chinese map with the the damn you can jump off of with a boat.
i have no performance impact at all that i can tell ...

J-Mag
09-12-05, 03:24 PM
i have no performance impact at all that i can tell ...

On all maps?

well maybe it was just me, because i do spend time on my computer while intoxicated...

It might have been the SFR I applied globally for FEAR and forgot to set it back. Maybe I should get some definative tests done myself (but then again the lazy factor comes into play)

zoomy942
09-12-05, 03:28 PM
yeah i love it. i use 2XQ AA (quincunx is where its at) and SS TAA and things looks freakin amazing

Burnt_Ram
09-12-05, 09:52 PM
On all maps?

well maybe it was just me, because i do spend time on my computer while intoxicated...

It might have been the SFR I applied globally for FEAR and forgot to set it back. Maybe I should get some definative tests done myself (but then again the lazy factor comes into play)
all the one's ive played anyhow ;) once in awile it lags a bit, but i chop that up to the server side ..

Burnt_Ram
09-12-05, 09:53 PM
yeah i love it. i use 2XQ AA (quincunx is where its at) and SS TAA and things looks freakin amazing
you like quincunx eh. ive always found it a bit blurred compared to regular AA ...

fatal1ty
09-12-05, 10:13 PM
you like quincunx eh. ive always found it a bit blurred compared to regular AA ...


It is, but close to 4x AA quality at only 2x AA performance hit.

It applies a 2x AA and some blur filter.

zoomy942
09-12-05, 11:22 PM
i just like the blur cause things look more lifelike. and at 1280x1024, there isnt much blur. besides, it makes edges and such look softer:)

zoomy942
09-13-05, 05:58 AM
i have been playing around with the MS TAA and SS TAA


is gamma correct another item i should turn on or are you guys not using it much?

GlowStick
09-13-05, 06:27 PM
I also use gammacorrect aa regligiously :)

Burnt_Ram
09-13-05, 06:38 PM
I also use gammacorrect aa regligiously :)
what does that do for us ? i haven't tried it yet ...

zoomy942
09-13-05, 08:03 PM
I also use gammacorrect aa regligiously :)

along with MSAA or SSAA?

GlowStick
09-13-05, 09:09 PM
along with MSAA or SSAA?
Well my usualy settings for games is 4xAA/8xAF, High Quality, TAA SS, Gamma AA