Iran Set to Give Nuclear Info to Others

[The new guy]

UNITED NATIONS - Iran is willing to provide nuclear technology to other Muslim states, Iran's hard-line president said Thursday. Hours later, European nations renewed an offer of economic incentives if the mideast nation would halt its uranium enrichment.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050915/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear

This was due to happen. I wish we could trust the Muslim states to use this technology responsibly but in the long run I do not see how we can. This is kinda scary.

[Ninja Prime]

European nations renewed an offer of economic incentives if the mideast nation would halt its uranium enrichment.

Yeah, since that worked GREAT with N. Korea...

[retsam]

this is a big deal. but we also need to keep an eye on venezuala, with reagrds to nukes..

[|MaguS|]

this is a big deal. but we also need to keep an eye on venezuala, with reagrds to nukes..

Sorry that made me burst out laughing, whats next watch out for Argentina?

[Acid Rain]

I wish we could trust the Muslim states to use this technology responsibly but in the long run I do not see how we can. This is kinda scary.Unfortunately, we can't. They've proven this time and time again. Sooner or later these freaky people will make us have a VERY bad day.

I'm getting real damn tired of this kind of news.

[The new guy]

Sorry that made me burst out laughing, whats next watch out for Argentina?

I believe retsam would be refering to this post. Apparently South America has a nuclear agenda also.






http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=683404&postcount=29

Link to that article here (http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/2834.asp)

[sytaylor]

Yeah so kind of him to give his fellow oil rich nations nuclear power, I mean cripes, the problems nuclear would solve in the region :eek:

Dudes and ass, knew he'd mess things up the second he got elected.

[retsam]

Sorry that made me burst out laughing, whats next watch out for Argentina?

well if you followed whats going on down there you would know that yes argentina did and so did brazil...so sorry this isnt a laughing matter....


http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2005/920/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/brazil/nuke.htm


i bet you wouldnt be laughing when there is a mushroom cloud over some city in south america...would you

[|MaguS|]

well if you followed whats going on down there you would know that yes argentina did and so did brazil...so sorry this isnt a laughing matter....


http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2005/920/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/brazil/nuke.htm


i bet you wouldnt be laughing when there is a mushroom cloud over some city in south america...would you

I know exactly whats going on in South America since most of my family is down there, many of the countries get along just fine (Heck, Argentina gets along with Cuba). The current president of Argentina would not do anything to put the people of Argentina in danger or in a worse situation then they just went through (depression and all thanks to its previous curropt government that the USA had a hand in).

BTW Why are other countries so dangerous with nuclear weapons? What makes the US so much better then many other civilized and mainly non violent countries? What evidence do you have that if these other countries have more of a chance to launch/drop the bomb then the US does?

I visit Argentina often and while they may hate the US Gorvernment they respect all tourists and treat them nice with no ill feelings towards them.

Néstor Kirchner is a great man, Bush and all other politicians in the US need to learn alot from him.

[Acid Rain]

BTW Why are other countries so dangerous with nuclear weapons? What makes the US so much better then many other civilized and mainly non violent countries?Because they aren't us, and because we fear what we can't control.

[DiscipleDOC]

Because they aren't us, and because we fear what we can't control.
Wrong. We fear that these so-called "civilized countries" will sell these nukes to people that do not have our best interest in mind.

When I was in the military, our biggest threat was not the Russians, but them selling their nuclear technology to the highest bidder. Eventually, that has happened.

[|MaguS|]

Wrong. We fear that these so-called "civilized countries" will sell these nukes to people that do not have our best interest in mind.

Like how we gave Iraq their WMD that Hussien used on his own people? So basically everyone but us do not deserve these weapons? Well if they don't have them, why should we? Do we really like what we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

The only way I would agree with other nations not having Nuclear Weapons is if the US would also disable and remove them. We are no better then any other nation, especially the ones who treat their citizens alot better on a whole and whos government has more support from their citizens.

I don't dislike america, I just dislike how its run... both the democrats and republicans are nuts and need to reevaluate what their doing to this country. Neither is better or worse, they all have their own goals that have do not aid the common man.

[retsam]

I know exactly whats going on in South America since most of my family is down there, many of the countries get along just fine

are you sure...
Venezuela is emerging as a potential hub of terrorism in the Western Hemisphere, providing assistance to Islamic radicals from the Middle East and other terrorists. i take it you didnt bother to read anything that i posted


http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brazilian_President_party_received_money_from_FARC ,_say_documents
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/terror/RS21049.pdf
(Heck, Argentina gets along with Cuba).
umm maybe when the state controlled media reports it,they make it sound good....

depression and all thanks to its previous curropt government that the USA had a hand in).
no doubt that we had some hand but please dont ignore the europeans...that had some hand in it also.... besides three years ago if i remember correctly we forced argentina to float there currency ...did we not... now look 8.5% growth.... not to bad ..yes did we make some mistakes down there...but lets not ignore what good we have done also...
http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2004/05/what_is_driving.html


BTW Why are other countries so dangerous with nuclear weapons? when you have groups like hezbolah and other terrorist(farc) groups running around in countries with high corruption ...nukes and corruption make a very bad mix...


What makes the US so much better then many other civilized and mainly non violent countries? just look at the links i have posted up there ...thats why....


What evidence do you have that if these other countries have more of a chance to launch/drop the bomb then the US does? well are they really doing anything to stop these extremest groups from searching for funding and arms....not much...

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16073904-38198,00.html

well seems there is a strong link to these south america cartel after all


I visit Argentina often and while they may hate the US Gorvernment they respect all tourists and treat them nice with no ill feelings towards them. please dont misunderstand me... i have many friends that are from south america.. when i was younger i used to go diving down in south america some of the most beutiful dive spots are there. i love the people from down there, and i love the food... i really enjoy there company..its just that there is a history of corruption in those government that goes very deep... this is why i think we need to keep an eye on these things.. one nuke to the wrong group...and america will be the first ones the know...

[retsam]

Well if they don't have them, why should we? Do we really like what we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki? not this argument again.... lets rehash this one more time..... the japaneas were ready to fight to the last man women and child.... if we would have invaded we would have lost upwards of 1/2 million men and countless japaneas .....

[retsam]

The only way I would agree with other nations not having Nuclear Weapons is if the US would also disable and remove them. so this sounds like an excuse for dictators having wmds. why not russian also ...great britain...france ...why dont you call out to those other nations...

especially the ones who treat their citizens alot better on a whole and whos government has more support from their citizens. like who ...cuba? .... please you have more freedoms and opertunities in america then any place in the world ...

[retsam]

so sorry about the bad spelling and grammer... geee... i need to go get some sleep...

[|MaguS|]

Yes venezuela does house terrorist groups, so does every country and also America funds groups in venezuela (Sumate) that are against its government and its officials which were elected into office and have the support from the majority of its citizens.

The argentine economy is recovering full thanks to Kirchner, he took forced many companies who were not helping the situation out of the country. Most of the public transportations and utilities were owned by private american ran companies who were no adjusting to the situation and when they did adjust they lowered their rates to other american companies but mantained many of the resident rates. He also refused to pay many loans that were made by the previous government so his people would not suffer.

Argentina's relations with Cuba are great, Castro made a public speech in Buenos Aires in 2003.

As for freedom and rights we recieve in america... Yeah its great when they aren't put into question by every nut with a bible or some peace loving hippy who thinks the redneck who owns a gun and is shooting at every highway sign in a 10 mile radius doesn't have the right to own a weapon.

Many countries have just as many rights as we do... Whats so different from normal day to day like in the US then in the UK? France? Argentina? Spain? Sweden?

[retsam]

ok nice excuse for socialism.... now can you provide some links to your arguments... also, dont start crying when alot of people in here start to chim in on your statements.... if your gonna, bow out now ....

[retsam]

The argentine economy is recovering full thanks to Kirchner, again you completly ignored everything i linked to....


Argentina's relations with Cuba are great, Castro made a public speech in Buenos Aires in 2003. why would you be so proud of this. hes a dictator ... you clearly were pissed when the U.S supported the dictatorship down there...why would you support castro now....

[DiscipleDOC]

Like how we gave Iraq their WMD that Hussien used on his own people? So basically everyone but us do not deserve these weapons? Well if they don't have them, why should we? Do we really like what we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
*sigh*
At the time we gave Iraq weapons, he was an ally against Iran (which was in allegiance with Russia--you know, the other super power that was on the virge of dominating the world?), and in order balance the power out down there, we needed an ally. This is recorded history, you should read up on it sometime.

The only way I would agree with other nations not having Nuclear Weapons is if the US would also disable and remove them. We are no better then any other nation, especially the ones who treat their citizens alot better on a whole and whos government has more support from their citizens.
Again--*SIGH*
Who should disarm first? Should US disarm first in hopes that those who do not have our best interest at heart would disarm? Please, do not be so naive. Do you think we have nuclear weapons just so we can be the biggest bully in the world? No. Our military is more than enough of a match for anyone that would threaten us. We have Nuclear weapons because there are people that know they can not rule over us (like Iran, N. Korea, Etc...). Your rhetoric is pretty silly, actually.

I don't dislike america, I just dislike how its run... both the democrats and republicans are nuts and need to reevaluate what their doing to this country. Neither is better or worse, they all have their own goals that have do not aid the common man.
Again more rhetoric. Regardless of how you like America to be ran, our gov't have a duty to keep it's citizens' safe from tyranny. Disarming in hopes of others disarming is delusional. Peace is only gained through power. Period. If you have not learned this fact, then you're fooling yourself.

Oh, btw...if you don't like how America is ran, I'm sure Mexico or Canada would be happy to take you.

[retsam]

Yes venezuela does house terrorist groups, so does every country and also America funds groups in venezuela (Sumate) nice try but 53000$ doesnt buy a revolution....



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%BAmate

and they dont sound like a terrorist group to me ...unless you consider democracy a tachtic of terrorists..



wow terrorists now how official websites :D
http://www.sumate.org/

[Rakeesh]

You know, the US is probably the only country in the world that is safe against ICBM nuclear strikes. Everybody else is a bit vulnerable on the other hand. But **** 'em anyways right |MaguS|? They aren't us afterall; let em all get nukes and nuke each other to hell while we keep ourselves safe. Hell, nuclear winter will help cancel out our global warming anyways.

[retsam]

:udawg: :lol2:

[CybrSage]

The current president of Argentina would not do anything to put the people of Argentina in danger or in a worse situation then they just went through (depression and all thanks to its previous curropt government that the USA had a hand in).

For that he should be applauded.

I, however, blame the last ruler for his wrongs. See, I use a little known thing called "personal accountability". It is a way of thinking that says humans are responsible for their own actions.

It is not the fault of the US that your previous leader did bad things. It is the fault of the previous leader.

Your new leader is doing good things. Guess whose fault that is. The US? Of course not, it is the current leader's fault.

When both bad and good things happen, give credit to those who did the actions.

[vampireuk]

He also refused to pay many loans that were made by the previous government so his people would not suffer.

If only the real world works this way :rolleyes:

If anybody gets worried about Argentina in the future just invite them over to the Falklands and we will finish the job. ;)