ATI cancelled X1800 AGP

[AthlonXP1800]

ATI fans with AGP system will be very disappointing and likely very outraged with this news. Yes ATI did had X1800 various AGP cards as original planned but now ATI are dropped it, probably something to do with the bridge chip prices and economy senses. It seem ATi are copycat Nvidia way that AGP is now dead, it time to upgrade to PCI Express.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26543

[jAkUp]

Well, I guess that is the end of AGP. Since ATI won't release an AGP part, I doubt NV will either.

[Rakeesh]

Well, that is coming from the enquirer, so I would take it with a grain of salt.

[zer0]

who wants to buy my mobo and videocard? :D

[AthlonXP1800]

Well, that is coming from the enquirer, so I would take it with a grain of salt.

It very likely The Inquirer are tell the truth, I realised something I forget about ATI Rialto chip, it is huge chip, AGP version with this chip like X800 XL need much bigger PCB than PCI Express PCB. Now you need a very good look at X1800 PCB, it the same size as 7800 GTX, so if you talk about X1800 AGP, it going to be a massive card much bigger than PCI Express and people will have problems fit such as a massive card just like Voodoo 5 6000 on motherboards blocked by some capacitors and cases too. That will force you to buy different AGP motherboard and a new case, that not economy sense to do it, it much better just to buy a new PCI Express motherboard and PCI Express card that will fit in standard ATX case. :)

[rohit]

I feel, the mid-ends and low-ends will come with AGP variants.

[Riptide]

If this is true that sucks and I'll be holding out until the next generation of cards, probably around summer time I'm guessing.

[OWA]

That's disappointing if true. I was hoping to breathe some life into my 2nd system with their high-end AGP card. I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and upgrade that one to PCI express as well.

[Riptide]

Well it's still the INQUIRER, so let's just wait and see shall we.

[Mr_LoL]

It very likely The Inquirer are tell the truth, I realised something I forget about ATI Rialto chip, it is huge chip, AGP version with this chip like X800 XL need much bigger PCB than PCI Express PCB. Now you need a very good look at X1800 PCB, it the same size as 7800 GTX, so if you talk about X1800 AGP, it going to be a massive card much bigger than PCI Express and people will have problems fit such as a massive card just like Voodoo 5 6000 on motherboards blocked by some capacitors and cases too. That will force you to buy different AGP motherboard and a new case, that not economy sense to do it, it much better just to buy a new PCI Express motherboard and PCI Express card that will fit in standard ATX case. :)

:rofl Your posts crack me up mate keep em coming.

[Rakeesh]

It very likely The Inquirer are tell the truth, I realised something I forget about ATI Rialto chip, it is huge chip, AGP version with this chip like X800 XL need much bigger PCB than PCI Express PCB. Now you need a very good look at X1800 PCB, it the same size as 7800 GTX, so if you talk about X1800 AGP, it going to be a massive card much bigger than PCI Express and people will have problems fit such as a massive card just like Voodoo 5 6000 on motherboards blocked by some capacitors and cases too. That will force you to buy different AGP motherboard and a new case, that not economy sense to do it, it much better just to buy a new PCI Express motherboard and PCI Express card that will fit in standard ATX case. :)

That shouldn't ever be the case unless your system is off spec. In the AT days this was a common issue with bigger cards. However as part of the ATX spec (and all new versions of it) one of the design requirements of all motherboards is that there are no objects in the way of the peripheral slots.

This is why ATX cases are generally taller and longer than AT cases, even though ATX motherboards are generally smaller. This is also why all of the big capacitors and chips that need heat sinks are located towards the top relative to the case. They used to generally reside to the front of the expansion slots back in the AT days, and this caused the problem you are describing.

The pentium 2 motherboards were the first to use the ATX spec, and pretty much every motherboard ever made since then (a few exceptions, even to this day) follow that same spec. The only way you could experience this problem is if your motherboard or case doesn't fully fall within the ATX spec.

[oldsk00l]

If this is true my toilet is going to spontaneously flush while I'm in the shower!!!

:eek:

[OWA]

Well it's still the INQUIRER, so let's just wait and see shall we.
No we shan't. :)

[Vagrant Zero]

Well looks like my 6800GT is going to be with me a while longer.

[AthlonXP1800]

your motherboard or case doesn't fully fall within the ATX spec.

Yes I experienced a big problem back in 2002 when my 2nd Socket A motherboard MSI KT266 Pro2 RU died. I needed a new one urgent and told my dad to get one on his way to work but he never listened to me properly about checked the motherboards to made sure my old Voodoo 5 5500 AGP fitted in AGP slot with no big capacitors sat on right next to memory slots. My dad went to the local shop and bought cheaply £50 new motherboard and after work he brought it home and when I take it off the bag, I realised my nightmare, it was Abit KT7A motherboard, I told him "No this is the wrong one, it couldnt fit in" and dad responded "It sure can fit in". What an idiot dad was, I brought my Voodoo 5 5500 AGP and showed him it wouldn't fitted in and my dad now realised why and said here are no other motherboards that can fit Voodoo 5 5500 AGP in it. I was left with no new motherboard for a week, I hunted for motherboard that are compatible with my Voodoo 5 card on pay as you go Internet at shopping centre, found alots of cheap new motherboards that did not fell within ATX spec and finally found ASUS A7V333 motherboard that fell within ATX spec, it will fit my card in and I called the shop in England and ordered it for £108 delivered next day. :p

[fasedww]

That's disappointing if true. I was hoping to breathe some life into my 2nd system with their high-end AGP card. I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and upgrade that one to PCI express as well.Same here my friend