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Rakeesh
10-06-05, 02:33 PM
Hmm...the X1800 XT (the flagship card) looks like it performs slightly worse than the 7800 GT in a few games, and slightly better in others. Yet at the same time it costs about $200 more.

IMO this next generation of cards kinda sucks across the board from both Nvidia and ATI though. None of them offer any new features that the geforce 6 series don't already offer (except a few more FPS of course.) No point in upgrading IMO.
nVestor
10-06-05, 03:41 PM
Hmm...the X1800 XT (the flagship card) looks like it performs slightly worse than the 7800 GT in a few games, and slightly better in others. Yet at the same time it costs about $200 more.

IMO this next generation of cards kinda sucks across the board from both Nvidia and ATI though. None of them offer any new features that the geforce 6 series don't already offer (except a few more FPS of course.) No point in upgrading IMO.
Kinda what I noticed too. Ati has caught up to what nVidia has been doing, woohoo?

What I am more interested in seeing is where we go from here.:D
anzak
10-06-05, 04:29 PM
Hmm...the X1800 XT (the flagship card) looks like it performs slightly worse than the 7800 GT in a few games, and slightly better in others. Yet at the same time it costs about $200 more.

You mean GTX. And in 2048 w/ 4xAA it blows the GTX out of the water. The GTX (430/1.2) runs out of bandwidth in this case, the ASUS or BFG card would do better.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=13636&stc=1&d=1128528271

The only downside is OpenGL performance. Its bearly able to keep up with the 6800 Ultra.
jAkUp
10-06-05, 05:04 PM
http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2739026

$50 more expensive? For slower clocks? Can we expect the same with the x1800 Crossfire card?
Rakeesh
10-06-05, 05:12 PM
You mean GTX. And in 2048 w/ 4xAA it blows the GTX out of the water. The GTX (430/1.2) runs out of bandwidth in this case, the ASUS or BFG card would do better.

No, I meant GT. FarCry and HL2 (of course, valve optimizes this for ATI cards) are the only exceptions. In Doom 3, Riddick, and Halo, the GT beats the X1800 XT.
anzak
10-06-05, 05:43 PM
No, I meant GT. FarCry and HL2 (of course, valve optimizes this for ATI cards) are the only exceptions. In Doom 3, Riddick, and Halo, the GT beats the X1800 XT.

Both Far Cry and Battlefield 2 are nvidia's TWIMTBP games. In both of those games the X1800XT destroys the GTX, its bandwidth. The X1800XT has tons of it.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8984/bf216001si.gif

Doom 3? Riddick? What did I say? The X1800 sucks at OpenGL. You totally overlooked that part of my post.

If you only play DirectX games then the XT is easily the fastest card overall. But if you care about OpenGL then you better go with the GTX.
Graphicmaniac
10-06-05, 07:57 PM
its not bandwitch
its the 512MB

bandwitch is a limit ok but is the 512 that do the most
and anyway my monitor has half of that resolution lol
anzak
10-06-05, 09:15 PM
its not bandwitch
its the 512MB

bandwitch is a limit ok but is the 512 that do the most
and anyway my monitor has half of that resolution lol

More memory wouldn't cause that big of a difference. Only at these insane resolutions w/ AA does bandwidth become a big factor and the XT has a 10gb/s advantage.
bkswaney
10-07-05, 03:54 AM
More memory wouldn't cause that big of a difference. Only at these insane resolutions w/ AA does bandwidth become a big factor and the XT has a 10gb/s advantage.


This is not this case with some 7800GTX cards though.
Some have higher clocked memory than 1200.

All nvidia needs to do is slap some faster memory
on the gtx.
Most people I know do not use even 1600x1200 though.
Most use 1024 even now on games.
I think nvidia needs to just bring on a Ultra with
512 megs of memory and raise the clocks to 480/1500. :)

At least nvidia can get it to market. :rofl:
ATI has a great card it seems. Maybe it will
get to stores by christmas of "06" ;)
Or it could go down the new "Phantom Ed" PE